Scarecrow Scamps

Fans of the quirky “Worzel Gummidge” TV series, featuring the rascally scarecrow, will know that he has different heads for various occasions.



However, more recently, in the absence of his Creator, The Crowman, Worzel has got into even more strife than usual. You see, The Crowman has gone on a European tour, giving talks to packed audiences on how to make scarecrows. Sometimes, however, The Crowman is not a very good judge of character, and has left the matter of scarecrow management, in the area around Scatterbrook Farm, in the dodgy hands of someone who turned out to be a faux-Crowman – Rupie Murdoch.

Once the real Crowman departed, Rupie created a new head for Worzel – one that was by far the most obnoxious, most foul-mouthed scarecrow-head in the whole district – the Tony Abbott Head!

Also, Rupie hid all of Worzel’s usual heads, leaving him to don only the Tony Head for the foreseeable future. But if this obnoxious head made Worzel different from his normal persona, what remained consistent were his pathetic attempts to get Aunt Sally (Sarah Hanson-Young), to marry him.

But, as usual, Worzel’s advances come to naught and the feisty Aunt Sally just strings him along and then dumps him like a sack of far-from-weightless coal.

Worzel: Hey, Aunt Sally...are we goin’ to be one of them Forgotten Families for ever, or are you goin’ to marry me...or do I have to give you one of those judo chops and wreck the place...

Aunt Sally: Huh...by the look of this crappy barn, you’ve wrecked the place already...And, anyway, why would I marry you – you’ve been kissing fish again and you stink...Why, you smell even worse than CO2...So, if you don’t do something about it, I’ll get Rupie to chuck you on the compost heap...

[And so the bickering between Worzel and Aunt Sally goes on and on. Then, one day, as Worzel is again lounging in the barn, instead of manning his post and scaring rooks in Ten Acre Field, and still trying to convince Aunt Sally to marry him, the two kids from Scatterbrook Farm, Sue and John call in to see him, bearing a letter.

Worzel: Huh...what do you three pair want? An’ don’t forget I aren’t into pairs these days...heh...heh...An’ can’t you see I’m tryin’ to form one of those coal...coal...coalickey thingies with my Aunt Sally here? Now push off!

Aunt Sally: A coalickey! A coalickey with you, you dumb scarecrow! Why, I wouldn’t have a coalickey with you for all the wind-farms in the Windward Islands! You know, I’ve been to the Windward Islands...didn’t work out as I planned, unfortunately...

Sue (anguished): Oh, that’s awful, Aunt Sally – whatever happened?

Aunt Sally: Huh...they said they wanted me to come out and give some talks on how I was the bestest greenie in all the world...But when I got there, they took one look at my initials and, instead, put me in the local coconut-shy and chucked balls at me...bastards...

Worzel: My, my, my, Aunt Sally! That’s a tale and a quarter-half as I’ve ever heard...I’ll be bum-squizzled...

Aunt Sally: Bum-squizzled! Bum-squizzled! Have you been selling your arse again, you cretinous bag of straw...

[Even though they are well used to it by now, Sue and John roll their eyes at another unedifying spectacle of Worzel and Aunt Sally bickering. As John said on numerous occasions, they make Itchy and Scratchy look like Androclus and the Lion, after they have shared a bong in a hippy commune.]

John: Oh, for Pete’s sake you two...Why don’t you give over...Just read your letter, Worzel – by the postmark, it’s from Australia!

Worzel: Huh...I hope it’s not from that Craig Thomson bloke, inviting me to be present at his wife’s delivery instead of him, cos I aren’t that stupid...But, whoever it’s from, they better not expect an answer, cos old Worzel here isn’t into any of those carefully prepared scripted remarks...heh...heh...

[John, Sue and Aunt Sally stare at Worzel and their heads begin to nod bizarrely. As Rupie the fauz-Crowman has hidden his Reading Head, Worzel asks Sue to read it for him. After listening to Sue read the letter aloud, Worzel yelps with delight.]

Worzel: Bozzy McCoo!!! It’s from Cousin Cobber!!! So, he’s got some long-service-leave from his paddock at Woop Woop Wheatfarm and he wants me to come out and share a few Violent Crumble Bars and ginger beers with him...Whaddya think, Aunt Sally – wanna come? We can get into one of those coalickey thingies and live happily ever after in Cousin Cobber’s barn...

[True to form, Aunt Sally has less intention of marrying this decrepit heap of straw than she has of donning a burqa and offering herself up for target practice for an elite Taliban stone-the-infidel squad. However, at the thought of a couple of free Violent Crumble Bars, her mouth begins to water.]

Aunt Sally (fluttering her eye-lids): Emm...Worzel...I’m not saying I will or I won’t marry you...but, Australia is a long way away...so, I’ll just come with you to make sure you find your way...

Worzel: Righto, Aunt Sally...let’s go and find the boat Saucy Nancy’s the figurehead of – that’ll take us to Australia quicker than you can shake shit off a shovel, that will...

[Aunt Sally gives Worzel one of her looks, as she can’t abide his foul language. Then they head off to the pier, leaving Sue and John again amazed at how stupid Worzel is, by even entertaining the thought of going to Australia with Aunt Sally.

Suddenly, however, Sue and John hear the fluttering of a dove’s wings in the loft above, as it takes off through a hole in the old barn’s roof. “Hmmm...”, John says to himself, “I think The Crowman is going to hear about this”.

Anyway, Worzel and Aunt Sally sail off in Saucy Nancy’s boat, but the voyage is definitely one to forget. Not only were Worzel and Aunt Sally bickering non-stop, but Saucy Nancy and Aunt Sally were carrying on like two cats that had their tails tied together.

So, when they reached Australia, Saucy Nancy was glad to get some peace and quiet whilst Worzel and Aunt Sally saunter off in the direction of Woop Woop to see Cousin Cobber.

They walk for ages, and approaching at last the outskirts of Woop Woop, they keep their eyes peeled for any signs of Cousin Cobber waving to them, brandished bars of Violent Crumble and bottles of fizzy ginger beer. However, as they pass a field, chockers with a flock of feasting galahs, plus an empty scarecrow frame, they notice a prone figure lying close-by.]

Worzel: Why, by all that’s evil in my Tony Abbott Head, I believe that’s Cousin Cobber!

[Worzel and Aunt Sally amble over and can’t believe their eyes. There are empty ginger beer bottles and Violent Crumble wrappers strewn everywhere – and Cousin Cobber is snoring away, obviously having a siesta after his Bacchus-like feast.]

Aunt Sally (screaming): The bastard’s eaten all the chockies and drank all the ginger beer! But, what’s worse – look at the state of the environment! It would make Bhopal and Chernobyl look like Mrs Braithwaite’s well-tended flower-beds back at Scatterbrook Farm! As a card-carrying greenie, I’m not stopping around here for one minute longer!

[Aunt Sally turns on her heel and strikes out in the direction of Woop Woop’s main street.]

Worzel: But...but...but...Aunt Sally – don’t leave me...I thought we was to get married here in Australia?

Aunt Sally: Huh...with relatives like your freak Cousin Cobber here, there’s no way I’m going to risk sharing your crappy gene-pool, Worzel Gummidge...I’m off to find myself a proper husband...

[So after a few minutes walking, Aunt Sally reaches the main street of Woop Woop, and notices a sign on one of the buildings – “Antique Figure Museum”. “Hmmm...”, thinks Aunt Sally to herself, “I love aunty-queues – maybe I’ll get a husband in here who’ll provide me for the rest of my life with lots of Violent Crumble Bars and cups of tea and slices of cake...” She walks inside, announces her intentions to all the exhibits, and starts to survey all the figures on display. The nearest one, resplendent in his tutu and fishnet stockings is Dolly Clothes-Peg Downer.]

Dolly: Oh...pick me...pick me, Aunt Sally...I know I’m a bit rusty, but experience has gotta count for something...

Aunt Sally (sniffing in derision): Huh...Mate, I may be a refugee from a caring and sharing greenie commune, but there’s no way I’m going to get hitched to someone who’s gonna be pinching my knickers to wear...



[Aunt Sally passes on and the next exhibit is Barnaby “Dafthead” Joyce.]



Dafthead: Whadda ‘bout me, Aunt Sally...If you’re looking for a husband, you know you can count on me...

Aunt Sally: Huh...You gotta be kidding, Dafthead – I wouldn’t be seen dead with a nincompoop like you...Why, compared to you, the Count in Sesame Street looks like Albert Bloody Einstein...

[Aunt Sally again moves along, and comes across Joe “Sergeant Beetroot” Hockey.]

Aunt Sally: Hi Beetroot – I see you’re still red-faced after your great big black holes debacles...heh...heh...

Beetroot: Oh, hi Aunt Sally...If you marry me, I’ll make sure you get a nice crisp beetroot for your tea every day – whaddya say?

Aunt Sally: A beetroot! A measly, worm-eaten beetroot! Why, my man, when I get married, I’ll be stuffing my face with cakes, and meringues, and trifle, and violent Crumble Bars, and lamingtons, and TimTams...and...

Beetroot: Oh, but that’s where you’re wrong, Aunt Sally...Y’see, all those goodies will be for me – I’ve got my figure to think of, y’know...

[Just then, and just in time to save Beetroot from a physical and verbal onslaught from Aunt Sally that would make the pillages of Eric the Red look like a Hagar the Horrible sleep-in, Worzel sticks his head around the front door, again begging Aunt Sally to marry him. However, at this point, Aunt Sally realises, in the next exhibit, that she has finally found the man of her dreams – surely this is the one she has been searching for...

On a pedestal, claiming pride of place amongst the other exhibits in the Antique Figures Museum is the imposing spectacle of Ned Kelly’s helmet and body armour.] Ned: Ah...Begorrah! There you are, Aunt Sally...me morning star...the apple of me eye...the one I wrote me Jerilderie Love Letter to...Just come along with me, Aunt Sally, and don’t be waylaid by this parcel of big, fat, ugly, fat-necked, wombat-headed, big-bellied, magpie-legged, narrow-hipped, splay-footed sons of you-know-what’s...Sure, they’ve only got heads like turnips...Tell ‘em they may as well be mustering mosquitoes and boiling them down for their fat than to think they can get one over me in winning your hand...Let us be Moving Forward!

[By this stage of Ned’s wooing of her, Aunt Sally’s eyes are fluttering so much, her false eye-lashes are just about to fly off. Gushing that she will surely go into one of those coalickies with him, Aunt Sally throws her arms around Ned and they quickly exit the museum, ready to start married life together. In their haste on their way out, they nearly knock over The Crowman, who has made a sudden and surprise appearance, with his arm around a very dejected Worzel.]

The Crowman: Look, Worzel, you’ll have to stop building your hopes up, thinking Aunt Sally is going to marry you...It’s never going to happen...Now, you’re lucky one of my doves overheard your silly plan and came to tell me...So, take that horrible Tony Abbott Head off and put on your usual one that I’ve brought with me...We need to go home, so that you can start scaring the rooks in Ten Acre Field again...

Worzel (snivelling): Just as you say, your eminence...But, whatever you do, don’t allow me to put that nasty Tony Abbottt Head on ever again...

The Crowman: Oh, I won’t allow that to happen, Worzel...In fact, I’m going to make sure it can’t happen again, as I’m going to leave it here as an exhibit in this museum...

Worzel: What are you going to call the head, your magnificence?

The Crowman: Oh, I think we’ll put a sign on it saying it’s a Dick Head, Worzel...Now, let’s go home...



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TalkTurkey

17/09/2011Everyone's gone to the Moon!

Feral Skeleton

17/09/2011Talk Turkey, Nah, I'm goin' to Woy Woy. :D

Feral Skeleton

17/09/2011You know what I love? When you click on one of AcerbicC.'s links, like the 'Dickhead' one above, it leads you into a world of other delightful You Tube videos. :)

TalkTurkey

17/09/2011Or else you've all turned into scarecrows! So you won't talk huh? Just for that I'm'a repost my last 2 posts last night just before the Rethreading. Because I don't want my poke at the misnomerised Liberal Party to go to waste. So: last night TalkTurkey said September 16. 2011 07:57 PM 2353 GILLARD GOO-OO-OOD! Abbortt BAA-AA-AD That should work. [recaptcha: rangera Barry Nearly right both times! ] TalkTurkey September 16. 2011 09:05 PM Where's this "Once Great Liberal Party" BS coming from? The Liberal Party was never great. It was always based on Born to Rule, big money interests supporting big money interests. Labor has always led progress in this country, political thought and social justice, public education and public health are prime examples. The misnamed Liberal Party has always and always fought such at every possible juncture. Liberal my fat aunt, great my foot, they're nothing but reactionaries who have never for a moment relaxed their grip on the privilege they imported direct and intact from the English class system. Sir Robert Menzies, Sir John Kerr, huh, Sir Jo Bjelke-Petersen (who perverted the British Parliamentary system to his own evil ends), such are Liberal icons, great creeps is all. Just because the Liberals today are a braying gang of ignorant malevolent hypocrites today doesn't make them having been great once. They are like their precious island of Nauru, never anything but poop from the outset, just never sunk so low as today. (Yeah and I dig you too Jane! ) TalkTurkey

debbiep

17/09/2011AC - I had completely forgotten the TV series Worzel. How appropriate :) luv it.

TalkTurkey

17/09/2011Acerbic Conehead Worzel Head would be the weirdest Worzel Head in the World! This is very funny AC. You make the most colourful metaphors in the known universe bar none. And the situations in which you embroil your poor little little pawns are really very apposite, dunno how you keep em coming but it must be an interesting place, that Conehead of yours. :)

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17/09/2011AC Thank you for yet another delicious piece of satire. You have the uncanny knack of finding visuals around which you centre your words. The last clip expresses the sentiment of many of us, and now an increasing number of journalists, who are finally waking up. A little off theme, but I thought visitors might enjoy a short extract from a medical journal I was reading this morning. Referring to the way in which the media has handled the subject of immunization, the author wrote: [i]”[b]The media may use both errors of fact and errors of logic: reader beware![/b] Arguments against (and occasionally for) immunization found in the media may use both errors of fact (completely false statements, errors of omission or errors of commission) and errors of logic (involving faulty reasoning which renders the argument invalid). Such errors of logic include non-sequiturs, circular reasoning, false attribution, red herrings, straw man arguments and ad hominem attacks”[/i]. Which I suppose tells us that even with subject matter that ought to fairly free of subjectivity and grounded in objective evidence, the media can still get it wrong, very wrong. What hope have we for objective reporting when the subject is politics?

2353

17/09/2011I'm not on the moon - rather I was playing taxi and doing the shopping. Couple of interesting things picked up this morning http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion/politics/weasel-words-polluting-clarity-of-scheme-20110916-1kdv3.html Weasel words polluting clarity of scheme http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion/politics/gillards-insurance-policy-20110916-1kdz7.html Since the negotiations over minority government, Tony Abbott has unwittingly pushed the independents towards Labor. As well as Laurie Oakes column in the NoNews medial where he reckons that Wayne Swan is the favourite to "win" the "World's Best Treasurer" award which Keating won and Costello is still miffed he didn't get.

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17/09/2011Folks If you haven’t read Julia Gillard’s speech delivered yesterday, [i]Labor in Australia is a movement[/i], here is the transcript: http://www.alp.org.au/special-pages/pm-special-address-crc/ For those who ask ‘What does she, or Labor, stand for’, please read the first half; for those who wish to read her vision for the Labor Party, read the second half. Personally, I found her address both stirring and consistent with what she has been saying for years. If only the journalists would listen. I heard some reporting on the second half, but none on the first. Journalists ask what PM Gillard’s vision is, and when she gives it, they ignore it. If anyone comes across an article that talks about her vision, please post the link.

Rx

17/09/2011The award Costello [i]should[/i] have won was World's Laziest Treasurer.

Casablanca

17/09/2011 [i]TT since you raised this again today I am reposting my response and that of Jaeger from the last thread.[/i] My reCAPTURA was 'upsettm' Poor petal is upset that the PM is pouring bile over him. [b]September 17. 2011 12:07 PM[/b] TT I'm the one who has to plead guilty to introducing the sobriquet 'the once great Liberal Party' to this forum. I did it not too long ago but I don't recall exactly on which topic. Clearly, I don't think that the Liberal Party is or was great. However, there are many who believe that it was great and is great, despite Tony Abbott. Others Liberals must have doubts about Abbort but would not be prepared to admit this publicly. When I first recommended the term on TPS, I said that I thought that it may have been none other than our esteemed (by us) Prime Minister who used the term during one QT. (Sometimes my memory is spot on but other times it may not be.) Anyhow, to my way of thinking, the descriptor is a nice put-down of Tony’s Liberal Party. I feel that there is merit in using the term as it definitely implies that things have gone pear shaped since Abbort took over the helm and may change when he is removed. I sometimes come up with witty statements in conversation but I rack my brains in print to try for some pithy statements to counter those uttered by Tones. I generally conclude that it is easier to come up with a 3 word negative statement. ‘Stop the boats’ rallies more people than ‘Welcome the boats’. Hey, maybe that is better than I first thought as a counter cry. In this world of 3 second grabs for TV news and short-term attention span it cuts through better than ‘It is our moral and humanitarian duty to welcome any persons who land on our shores and ask for asylum. We should return to principle and decency and adopt a humane approach: this demands onshore processing and early release into the community while claims are assessed.’ ‘This toxic tax’ has rallied those in talk-back land. How about, ‘Actually, Tony it’s a de-toxing tax!’ Maybe that’s too subtle but it might cut through better to the talk-back demographic than a 20 minute lecture on the academic and statistical underpinning of the CPRS, the ETS or its latest incarnation the CEF. I was always taught that the challenge for a speaker was to whet the appetite of the audience to go away and think and do further research into a topic. Once too many details are introduced, a speaker will lose a large proportion of the audience. Discuss. Casablanca ************************************************************* [b]September 17. 2011 10:16 AM[/b] Casablanca, Google returned several references to PM Rudd saying it during QT: "'I notice that the once-great Liberal Party hauled out the white flag on tax and returned to old faithful,' he said." Julia's three word slogan "Don't write crap" was excellent; it highlighted the poor quality of journalism/reporting of late, and also their obsession with Abbott's TWSs. My responses to Abbott tend to be one word and unprintable. Wink Jaeger ************************************************************ [b]September 17. 2011 11:56 AM[/b] Jaeger, Thanks for that attribution to Rudd. He managed to land a few blows in his glory days without much name calling. Abbort has managed to lower the tone (unconscious pun!) both inside and outside the Parliament. Casablanca

Gravel

17/09/2011Acerbic Conehead Another wonderful Saturday morning giggle. Thank you. Bring back Maxine Thanks for you response. Hope all your family's health problems are gone. I can't resist when I get on here in typing a response, although my contributions add almost nothing to the wonderful topics, I just like to keep everyone on their toes. :-) Lyn I just have to again compliment you on your wonderful links, you do a great job everyday and triple up on Mondays.

lyn

17/09/2011Hi Acerbic Conehead Thankyou Acerbic Conehead for another of your wonderfully funny, delightful articles; So Rupie did it to us, I thought so. [quote]Rupie created a new head for Worzel – one that was by far the most obnoxious, most [b]foul-mouthed scarecrow-head [/b]in the whole district – the Tony Abbott Head! [/quote] Well Rupie and his army have taken deep hurtful umbrage at the Quarterly Essay by Robert Manne, "Bad News , poor little Petals: [quote]On the receiving end of some nasty and wilful misrepresentation , Greg Sheridan, The Australian[/quote] so abusive, scattered, unsystematic and frankly dishonest, so abusive, frankly dishonest , abuses me and The Australian, odd semi-jargon terms,abuses me ,silly accusations, childish debating , dishonesty and misrepresentation , wilful misrepresentation, Manne's bitter and vituperative enmities, bizarre is Manne's ,Manne dishonestly claims,Manne turns reality on its head, Manne's bitter and vituperative enmities , awfully silly and desperately sad http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/on-the-receiving-end-of-some-nasty-and-wilful-misrepresentation/story-fn59niix-1226138631192 [quote]The bad news on good faith . The Australian[/quote] [quote]It is the approach of a polemicist, not a journalist. Together, the incidents suggest to us that the Quarterly Essay is an exercise in limiting debate. It is symptomatic of a creeping closed-mindedness in civic discussion that should bechecked before it damages democracy. [b]We have endeavoured to speak truth [/b]to those who exercise power, to those elected to office and to those who influence the lives ofothers by appointment. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/the-bad-news-on[/quote]-good-faith/story-e6frg71x-1226139278283 Cheers:):):):):):):)

lyn

17/09/2011Hi Gravel Your a Sweetie, thankyou for your lovely gracious compliments. I am so pleased to know you are enjoying the reading, there sure is plenty out there. That foul-mouthed scarecrow-head keeps at his scarecrow best everyday. Scaring the wits out of voters at every opportunity. The ABC continues with their line "The Opposition Says", the Journalist's questions last week to Julia Gillard were" Tony Abbott said". Then they go away and say Julia Gillard should stop talking about Tony Abbott, unbelievable isn't it. Cheers :):):):):)

Patricia WA

17/09/2011Lots to think about after smiling and reminiscing about Worzel Gummidge. But, [b]debbiep,[/b] the Worzel Gummidge I had forgotten was not in any TV series, nor even on the BBC Children's Hour post WWII wireless series. The Worzel Gummidge I have very fond memories was in a black and white illustration in one of the first books I read by myself around 1942! I could go on at length about the excitement of having learned to read and then discovering our village library, a tiny room next to the Women's Institute hall, with its shelves of shabby and frequently borrowed books. FS, like you I enjoying following up on those other video clips that AC links us to. Just spent a pleasant half hour with Worzel Gummidge and Aunt Sally (well two of them this time!) I felt very sad when the goodhearted nicer of the two was taken off to America and poor old WG was left with the nasty two faced Aunt Sally who deserves everything that gets thrown at her! In that clip she reminds me more of Julie Bishop, than Sarah HY!

Casablanca

17/09/2011[b]Ooops! An unexpected error has occurred.[/b] [i]This one's down to me! Please accept my apologies for this - I'll see to it that the developer responsible for this happening is given 20 lashes (but only after he or she has fixed this problem).[/i] AA On this occasion I had to click through 4 reCAPTCHA offerings before I found one that I could decipher. One of my rejects was partly in Cyrillic script! Maybe reCAPTCHA is becoming too clever by half. When I clicked on Save Comment it got into some sort of loop and would not upload even though the little icon told me that it was trying to complete the task. I eventually gave up.

Casablanca

17/09/2011Richard Flanagan's Alan Missen Lecture, the closing address at The Melbourne Writer's Festival: 'The Decline of Love and the Rise of Non-Freedom'. In this oration Flanagan is considering love and freedom through the works of writers and by examining recent history, he questions how prepared we are to undertake this task in an ever evolving world. Flanagan examines the Australian disease of conformity. [i]anything like mass conformity that threatens the truth, needs to be challenged[/i] A transcript of the oration will be available in Quarterly Essay. A partial transcript is available at: http://linkusblesstheweather.blogspot.com/2011/09/richard-flanagans-alan-missen-lecture.html The Book Show audio is at: http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/2011/09/bsw_20110915_1005.mp3

Patricia WA

17/09/2011Thanks Lyn, for those links to the Brisbane Times articles. You'd think Tony Windsor's opinion would be considered solid enough to convince anyone, particularly the national press gallery and commentariat generally who know and must trust him from way back, to say nothing of sensible people across the country who can recognise a [i]'good 'un'[/i] when they see him. From there I clicked on to Chris Bowen's article presenting an argument for the humanity of off shore processing. http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion/politics/humane-reasons-for-processing-asylum-seekers-offshore-20110916-1kduh.html I was with him all the way, but had to read his last sentence several times. What he said in his last para was [quote] The issues around asylum will always be emotive. We are talking about the hopes and aspirations of real people as well as our understanding and conceptualisation of our national values. But the high moral ground is held by those who argue for what they believe to be the most humanitarian response, not only those who conclude the most humanitarian response is onshore processing.[/quote] I would have preferred that last sentence to read "But the high moral ground is held by those who argue for what they believe to be the most humanitarian response, not [b]just[/b] those who conclude the [b]only[/b] humanitarian response is onshore processing." My changes in bold. PS Casablanca, what is it with CAPTCHA? I get very straightforward phrases! N[quote][/quote]one of them seem to have any deep or esotieric messages for me either!

Patricia WA

17/09/2011RE LINKS. The internet yields treasure unlimited, doesn't it? This one I've shared with countless friends, particularly children, and find it deeply moving every time I watch it. http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=SkY03n0_sD8&vq=medium

Patricia WA

17/09/2011Stuck inside keeping warm with flu today so I'm surfing the net more than usual. I guess you lot are out in the garden or weekending somewhere exotic! Here's another nice uplifting link for you all. Prediction and lovely commentary today from Laurie Oakes! http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/swan-upping-finance-ante/comments-fn56baaq-1226139387079

Casablanca

17/09/2011Patricia WA That video is indeed very moving. We have heard disturbing news this week about a further reduction in ice cover. What a tragedy for the environment if this is further accelerated by drilling for oil. I'm surprised that you do not come across any deep and esoteric messages in reCAPTCHA. It's such an annoying little device that I just have to find some fun or allusions in the words. My current offering is odd because the second word is upside down and back to front ie mirror image. The word is 'beds' the right way up but it looks like more like 'spag' in mirror image. I'm not sure how I render that without special rotation tools so I'll just call for another set. BTW the first word is 'wedbanks'.

2353

17/09/2011Even Annabel Crabb has the irrits with the current state of play. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-09-16/crabb-wiggling-out-of-agreement-one-policy-at-a-time/2902770 Recaptcha bingo - May cessaste

Patricia WA

17/09/20112353 - She's still having a bet both ways. If she can't see where the destructiveness and negativity are coming from she must be blind, or wearing blinkers and ear plugs to drown out the sense the government is talking and the nonsense and worse that Abbott comes up with. No mention from her of his hypocrisy and self contradiction over pairing, too little time for debate of the CEF legislation and Coalition boycotting of same. Casablanca. Even when Capcha letters are upside, inside out of whatever script, I just type them as I'd read them normally. Only time I was knocked back I tried doing all upper or lower case. That didn't work at all.

Casablanca

17/09/2011Patricia WA Sorry to learn that you have the flu. Googling is a good antidote. Canberra had a beautiful spring day today for the opening of Floriade. It was also clean-up day in the northern industrial suburb of Mitchell following a major chemical explosion on Thursday night. Apparently the inferno has caused millions of dollars damage not only through destroyed buildings but also through loss of business. Some of the biggest losses are to the brothels and night-clubs. The owner of Sinsations said that the loss of trade could ruin him. It struck me during the furore in Parliament over the Craig Thomson allegations that there was a bit of hypocrisy happening. I doubt that it is simply an urban myth that brothels and night clubs have a much healthier bottom line during sitting weeks. Thomson may or may not have a case to answer on mis-use of credit cards but visiting a brothel is not a criminal act.

Casablanca

17/09/2011Patricia WA Good to see that Laurie Oakes has written a balanced article. I have never forgiven him for his complicity in breaching Cabinet solidarity during the election campaign. His accusations continue to damage the Prime Minister and Labor. The version of Oakes' accusations that has remained in the public mind is that Gillard urged Rudd to drop the CPRS. My understanding was that she urged that the CPRS be put on the back-burner. There is a great difference in those two positions. The one is saying that the policy is not worth pursuing and should be dropped. The other one recognised the political reality that the legislation had been rejected and had no chance of being passed at that time. Despite Gillard supporting an ETS during the campaign we still have journalists peddling the line that Gillard never supported action on climate change. Hopefully, the Prime Minister’s introduction of the CEF Bills this week will finally put paid to the mischief started by Oakes during the election campaign.

Patricia WA

17/09/2011I wonder what his 'hibernation' was about? You could read it as 'in retreat' in the ecclesiatical sense! Meditating? Thinking? Re-thinking? Remember that for a while he saw everything through the prism of Rudd's 'knifing' and maybe he heard and believed things that were said by a very bitter man. OED says 'hibernation' means [i]A period of dormancy or suspended activity[/i] Not a man to waste a word, he could have said 'on leave' couldn't he? Maybe he was having a stand-off with News Ltd about editorial freedom on his columns for the Hun!

jane

17/09/20112353 @11.17am, I wouldn't say he [i]unwittingly[/i] pushed the Independents toward Labor, rather his overweening arrogance, hubris and bullying contempt for them which had them fall into Labor's arms. He was and is completely incapable of negotiating a deal with the Independents and that's why he doesn't have the reins of government now. And if the msm had one honest bone in their bodies, they would have been placing the blame for Liealot's failure squarely where it belongs. Because for all the posturing, Liealot is an abject failure; 1)his negotiating skills are non existent and are the reason the Liars Party is in opposition until 2013, 2)his complete untrustworthiness has ensured that the Independents can't be bothered meeting him anymore, 3)his impact on the Parliament is akin to a blowfly at a BBQ; sooner or later someone's going to buy a can of Mortein, 4)he can't be bothered debating legislation or framing any amendments, 5)any, for want of a better word, policies he's bothered to toss into the arena are so full of sloppy holes and monumental costing stuffups, they make the Titanic look seaworthy by comparison. [quote]We have endeavoured to speak truth....[/quote] Seems the OO is also practising a comedy routine for when they become totally irrelevant. I wonder if they are sharing writers with Sir Liealot? I'd also like a stat dec confirming the day that unlikely event occurred. Poor petals; they can dish it out but can't take it.

TalkTurkey

17/09/20112353, I'm with Patricia WA, I have never found reason to repent of my immortal description of "Annabelle, the slyly-sidling Crabbe" nearly a year ago. My reading of the article you link to is that it is shallow simplistic, ungracious, and self-pitying. Worse, if there is one humanoid type that I despise beyond the out-and-out bigot, it is that which runs with the hare and hunts with the hounds as Crabbe does. Unable simply to bag the Government for anything except "the inability to get their message out" (be it noted, through such a filter as Crabbe herself and her cosy circle of mutually masturbatory mates), she uses that worn-out old sloppy brush to declare the whole bloody lot of politicians nasty cynical and boring to a vivacious long-suffering perspicacious witty seer such as She. . . . Prompting the Spirit of the Bard: I do not love thee, Annabelle Crabbe: The insipid rhyme, the fatuous grab; Mine tink you intellectual flab: I do not love thee, Annabelle Crabbe!

Patricia WA

17/09/2011Was it our [b]Lyn[/b] I wonder, writing in comments and trying to find the transcript of http://www.abc.net.au/cgi-bin/common/player_launch.pl?s=rn/bookshow_item&d=rn/bookshow/audio/items&r=bsw_15092011_1005.ram&w=bsw_15092011_1005.asx&t=Richard Flanagan on the decline of love and freedom - 15 September 2011 which I've just been listening to on Radio Nationals' Book Show by Richard Flanagan? Copyright means a transcript won't be available of his fine speech criticising the current Australian mslaise in politics and the media, [i]the disease of conformity,[/i] which he says has given rise to [i]the decline of love and freedom.[/i] Very powerful, moving and almost entirely right. Well worth listening to but like a lot of intellectuals who seem to look towards the Greens for solutions (he refers to Bob Brown being likened to Nelson Mandela) for solutions, he forgets, as the Greens themselves do, that not all other politicians are in it for influence, money and short term gain. Many are still guided by principles. As are some journalists. Chris Bowen, I am sure, shared his agony over the Christmas Island boat tragedy. Robert Manne refuses to conform as a political commentator and he doesn't see Bowen's off-shore processing in a regional context as immoral. I'd be interested to know how others view his talk. Over at Larvatus Prodeo there is rousing applause, though I am sure Iain Hall will be along soon to disagree. By the way, FS, I was honored with a visit by said gentleman. I haven't thought of a suitable response to his comment yet, which I have published, since it was reasonably polite and with no villification of myself, or even of the PM really. You might like to respond for me, since I'm a bit stuffed up in the head at the moment! http://polliepomes.wordpress.com/2011/09/15/a-fair-go-for-julia-gillard/

jane

17/09/2011TT, what a brilliant review of Crabbe's nasty self congratulatory piece! You have expressed my views of this vapid c**k sucking self absorbed apology for a journalist exactly. If she and her fellow **** sucking mates in the msm had got off their knees, there would probably have been honest scrutiny of both parties and both leaders. Liealot would be in a deep pit of sub basement polls and would have been dispatched quickly, cleanly and ruthlessly never to be seen outside of a hospital ward. God knows what loser they would have installed to be pointed and laughed at, but perhaps Liars party supporters would be able to demand, and get, better candidates. No matter what dingbats may say, Liealot has set the Liars party back at least a decade, because no matter what, he will be exposed for what he is-an abject failure.

Patricia WA

17/09/2011Well written TT! I find La Crabbe so full of self regard I can almost see her mentally consulting her make-up mirror as she smiles at the impact of her latest witticism slagging off the efforts of hard working and well intentioned politicians like Chris Bowen. Julia Gillard, whom I think in her heart of hearts she really envies, but whom she slyly slates, is worth a dozen of her.

Casablanca

18/09/2011Patricia WA @September 17. 2011 10:39 PM you said about the Flanagan address to the Melbourne Writers Festival [i]Copyright means a transcript won't be available of his fine speech criticising the current Australian malaise in politics and the media, the disease of conformity, which he says has given rise to the decline of love and freedom.[/i] I gave a link above @ September 17. 2011 04:06 PM to a partial transcript, which begins at about the 16 minute mark of Flanagan's speech. See http://linkusblesstheweather.blogspot.com/2011/09/richard-flanagans-alan-missen-lecture.html I also advised that a full transcript would appear in the next edition of Quarterly Essay. The source for this heads up was http://www.libertyvictoria.org/node/122. The Flanagan talk was given on Sunday, 4 September 2011.

Feral Skeleton

18/09/2011May I just say Good Morning! and Euurrgghh!! I am surfacing the morning after spending the day before in the glorious Sydney Spring warmth and sunshine, preparing for and living through my son's 16th Birthday Party! I am amazed I am still here to tell the tale. All that Testosterone yearning to be free! Still, a good time ended up being had by all and I have lived to tell the tale. :) Now to catch up on what I have missed.

lyn

18/09/2011Good Morning Feral I'm happy to hear you had a good day yesterday, we are pleased you didn't go to the moon, you might not have got back, can't have our stars stuck on the Moon. So Abbott is not going to support the Government with the Asylum Seeker Policy, now that's different. I am desperate to find out if this is a wedge by Julia. Cheers:):):):):)

nasking

18/09/2011Very clever AC. :) [quote]Worzel: Bozzy McCoo!!! It’s from Cousin Cobber!!! So, he’s got some long-service-leave from his paddock at Woop Woop Wheatfarm and he wants me to come out and share a few Violent Crumble Bars and ginger beers with him...[/quote] Takes me back...I can remember when my air-force stepdad would get leave in the late 60s...I remember burying myself in fiction...books...TV's Dr. Who...lots of bear stuff animated and otherwise (i guess I thought those bears would protect me & Mum...he was a volatile character...impulsive flirter, swinger, brutal, sometimes highly aggressive when jealous, paranoid...w/ the grog in him). One of my best memories of that time was goin' to the cricket...drinkin' ginger beer...I now have one & some choc ginger durin' the odd celebration. [quote]Lots to think about after smiling and reminiscing about Worzel Gummidge. But, debbiep, the Worzel Gummidge I had forgotten was not in any TV series, nor even on the BBC Children's Hour post WWII wireless series. The Worzel Gummidge I have very fond memories was in a black and white illustration in one of the first books I read by myself around 1942![/quote] Patricia, So interesting that so many individuals have different memories evoked related to their journey w/ a series, book, music etc. This morning I awoke w/ tears in my eyes... I'd gone to bed thinkin' about all the violence that has come from the war on terror...and the tensions prior to it... thinkin' about this recent Palestinian move in the UN...how bad the timing is...how it could erupt into another intifada...more war between Israel & Palestine...and the neighbours... how the Turks are bein' more aggressive...how poor Obama is stuck in the middle...or is it, between a rock & a hard place... and now war-monger Cheney & his mates strut the media corridors...it's like a bad re-run... and Russians wanting to sell weapons to Syria...and lettin' the creeps get away w/ the murdering of innocents...children even... and so as I fell asleep I couldn't get these horrid war images outa my mind...verge of apocalypse...Vietnam-like...bombs, explosions, morgues, multiple coffins on planes...children's limbs hangin' off... and then...after the rough & tumble of cathartic dreams & nightmares... I woke w/ the song 'Strawberry Fields Forever' in my head... nothin' to do w/ the too oft religious & bigoted Salvation Army... plenty to do w/ the memory of Mum tryin' to escape my Step-Dad in 1969-1970... I was eight and had been left w/ a teacher family w/ three kids...the kids played plenty of Beatles...including Strawberry Fields Forever... I was a tensed up, lonely, anxious lad inside...but tried not to show it, submerged in books & such (and yes Patricia, the library was a sanctuary for me)... but...whilst layin' on their floor, plush carpet, away from the arguments of home...songs like that would take me away... I'd leave those images on TV of the Vietnam war, stuffy politics, assassinations & tragedies and nuclear fears... leave those fears of my step-dad & mum fighting...and of my many times stuck in hospital w/ asthma... and float into a place that would combine nature and space... and I would soar towards a magnificent sun of many colours...which contained all the great religious leaders, and scientists, artists, architects, politicians & authors & friends and many more...and loved & lost relatives... and I'd be enveloped by their warmth & unity...their smiles... and even tho in the songs there was melancholy and a sense of loneliness - obviously feeding into my own - I was able to transcend that mood...and find warmth...and harmony. And so when I woke up this morn w/ that song goin' thru my head...w/ warm tears in my eyes...I was still able to smile...and feel hope... for it wasn't long before that child left w/ his Mum & her then friend, now husband of nigh on 40 years, on a long journey across Australia...and for me & mum, to be free of that damaged patriarch & drunken, judgemental warrior...that sad sad angry man who tried so hard but could not overcome his own primeval desires & pain (I hope he found his peace)... a journey, eventually, to so many worlds I would not have been permitted to visit under his sad, iron grip... I just hope that the adults in the Russian, American, Chinese, Australian, Israeli, Palestinian, Turkish, Egyptian, Iranian and so on governments can see that their children also deserve a journey of hope...a journey away from the trauma & anxiety of the present patriarchal, war-mongering, paranoid mindset... perhaps they can COME TOGETHER and make a warmer, more harmonious future. A multi-coloured sun that hugs all their children...all their people. [i]Memories[/i]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3jrWVp2L7U N'

Feral Skeleton

18/09/2011lyn, Yes, I agree, I will be waiting with baited breath to see whether the new sackcloth and ashes garb that Tony Abbott has donned over his Budgie Smugglers convinces anyone. His hypocrisy never ceases to amaze. For him to misconstrue the Labor Party's attempts to sort out the mess that Asylum Seeker policy is in and say it "Goes too far.", when his own policy involves towing Asylum Seeker boats out to sea even though he knows now that Indonesia will not accept them back, condemning Asylum Seekers to an indefinite period of detentiion on Nauru, before finally letting them into Australia(some deterrent!), only to whack them and their mental health for 6 again when he imposes Temporary Protection Visas on them.

TalkTurkey

18/09/2011Good morning Swordsfolks, Not for the first time, I want to pay a tribute to the IndependAnts supporting the Government. ;-)Wilkie really is a loner, and I seem to think he must wrestle with his conscience a lot; that is no criticism, one cannot control one's conscience, a bit like a headache. But he is always true to his principles in a weird sort of way, one has to respect that, and he was very firm in the outset about his conditions for support for Labor; the fact that it turns out to be so extremely opposed by the gambling lobby, making it seem unreasonable to insist on those conditons, is neither his fault nor the Government's but it is a problem neither he nor We need. But I think he must give some ground here, there's too many other issues. He's done a lot of good by supporting the Government even if he doesn't entirely succeed with the gambling aspect. But I hate this gambling sickness too, I hope something good does come of his work. Oakeshott and Windsor, gee I like their stand. They have both remained staunch in supporting Labor in face of the most rabid personal persecution, including actual threats, that politics in Australia has seen. I honour their feist. Windsor comes across as really wise and paternal, grimly amused by the situation he finds himself in, and determined to do the best by his country. His whole country, not just his electorate, and there is some doubt whether he will even run again. He is a rock, even more so since he rolled away from the Right. Oakeshott, he of the silly Joker grin, is very special. He is weathering the worst vitriolic rain of all, and as a young man, who would obviously love to continue as a legislator for many years to come, he has probably signed his own political death warrant in Lyne, where he could have supported Abbortt, brought down the Government and kept his seat for sure. Sad, but one thing Rob, be sure your name will be carved with great pride in Australia's history. Greater decency hath no pollie. I haven't said this very well imo, these blokes deserve better, but on behalf of the welfare of our country, Thank You all three. Lopsiders begins.

TalkTurkey

18/09/2011Urghhh Greg Hunt. Someone said on Poll Bludger this AM wtte Gee Bushfire Bill you write a great article. I went back and found it @ 8349, yes correct, he's got a style has BB. Pity though, damn, he wrote it and it's gone into the past in a flash, gee it seems a waste. Hey BB . . . It prompted me after all to post something I wrote last night and felt a bit ashamed of, for being so down on one particular high-profile journo, who is not necessarily the worst of them at that. It is just that Annabelle Crabbe is just so In with the In crowd, who was it said when you know you're In it's time to get out? Anyway I'm'a post it anyway, but let it be realised please that I have nothing personally particular against Ms Crabbe, she is just an archetype. Aren't they mostly! Not Lenore Taylor, though.(K) And not Laura T*ngle (K)(K)(K) If they can write and talk not-crap why can't the rest of you? Below is what I wrote last night, hope it doesn't come across as [i]tooooo[/i] mean. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ jane, Patricia, Ad astra's site is so good to write on because I know for a certainty that such as Ms Crabbe and her ilk, while they couldn't give a rat's about our [i]despising[/i] them, they feel our [i]contempt[/i] like a rapier. While very few would admit to coming here, we may be sure that many do, and the ones that don't are of course worse still, in their cocoon of ignorance. Any journo worth even a pinch of salt does read the best blogs, any that don't read Ad astra and Grog and Mr Denham and Bushfire Bill and many others as linked to by Lyn, are simply lazy and ignorant and/or deliberately yellow-dogs of Murdochracy and privilege,(nothing personal yellow dogs!): scandal-sheet-mongers, TV-trough-snouters as with the present case, and radio hatespitters, a nest of traitors to true battlers. And if they don't have the breadth and depth of opinion that reading the best bloggers provides, it just emphasises my/our/Tanner's/*J*U*L*I*A*'s point, they're lazy and uninformed and sycophants and many are agenda-driven and they write, talk and broadcast crap. I gotta gobble with glee that you two have so firmly endorsed my opinion of that self-important pusillanimous person we're talking about here. That will hurt, because, first, be sure, someone will let Ms Crabbe know of this little dialogue, and second, three firmly concurrent and obviously independent opinions really pack a lot more sting than a solo comment, implying a solid body of sympathy in the wider blogosphere, and the community. BTW Folks let me make it crystal here, I really don't enjoy berating people all that much, I just wish they'd lift their decency level or die. Their snide pokes and jeers and steadfast refusal to tell matters straight and to go along with the whole sniggering incestuous pack of yellow dogs all egging each other on to ever more sniggers and ever less depth - these are treacheries to the society and to the planet, by what should be our educational informational media. I want them dealt with, if not by their own sense of decency then by firm critical management. Separate fact from opinion, leave that to the commercial stations, they can sink in their own filth afa I'm concerned,(though yes I long to see Anal Jones and his ilk brought to book), but gimme gimme gimme back MY ABC! We can actually MAKE people like Ms Crabbe take notice by writing on this blog, be sure [i]somebody [/i]is going to tell her/them, heheheheheh, and this exerts pressure on those persons so colourfully referred to by jane :) as a car up your backside exerts sort of pressure. Only in our case it's righteous cos we're good. So come on Crabbey, lift your bloody game. You're not funny, you're [i]wet[/i], and you're on OUR ABC. Dry up, grow up, get better or get out of OUR face. Today's headline in [i]The Quill[/i]: [b]TURKEY GOOSES CRABBE[/b]

Acerbic Conehead 2

18/09/2011Debbiep, I’m glad you enjoyed your trip down memory lane with [i]Worzel Gummidge[/i]. When our kids were watching it, we used to get more pleasure out of it than they did! TT, Thanks for your kind words. Yes, straight analysis on political issues is essential and informative. Like you, I’m trying a different approach. As you know, there’s more than one way of skinning a cat. AA, Yes, including a few visuals and using metaphors is another way of reflecting on a subject. No-one’s learning style is exactly the same as another’s, so variety of presentation is essential. [quote]Straw man arguments[/quote] And I notice Worzel Gummidge got a mention in that medical journal you were reading. [quote]Well, I’ll be bum-swizzled![/quote] Gravel, Happy to see a smile on your face on a Saturday morning! I hope the rest of the weekend goes well for you. Lyn, Thanks again for your gracious words and for all those links you provide during the week. They really are a treasure-trove of information and reflection. PatriciaWA, Thanks for the reminisces on your earliest memories of the [i]Worzel Gummidge[/i] characters. Yes, I remember that episode when Worzel didn’t reject the unpleasant Aunt Sally and instead passed up on the opportunity to get hitched with the more pleasant figure (Dolly Clothes-Peg, I think?). I saw it as a metaphor for the blemished aspects of human nature (Aunt Sally) and how we are challenged to never give up on others (like Worzel’s unconditional love for Aunt Sally). A bit like the care those penguin parents showed for their offspring in that delightful video clip you shared with us. nasking (08:38 AM), Thank you also for sharing some of your earliest memories. The way you have oscillated in your piece between reflecting on deep personal experiences and contemporary global issues is very moving. Much appreciated.

Ad astra

18/09/2011Good morning folks I took some time off yesterday evening to watch the AFL football – what a great match. I’ve enjoyed reading your comments this morning, and agree with your assessment of Annabell Crabb. She suffers from fancying herself as something of a sketch writer and seems to spend more time polishing the ‘funny bits’ in her piece that she does making a serious analysis of important national issues. Her flippancy is neither humorous nor engaging. She really is a lightweight journalist when it comes to critical matters of politics. I suppose there is a place for such journalism, for the disengaged to have a wry smile, but in my view it is not becoming for a political reporter for our ABC to engage in such substance-free levity. I wonder does Mark Scott find her contribution attractive. Perhaps her unwillingness to call the political scene the way it is, and her propensity to let Tony Abbott off the hook, is in deference to Scott’s known political preferences. She no doubt knows on which side her bread is buttered. I hope she does come here to see in what low regard at least some serious Fifth Estate bloggers hold her, although with her well-developed ego it may be asking too much to expect any change. I watched [i]Insiders[/i] out of the corner of my eye this morning and the beginning of [i]Inside Business[/i]. Did you, like me, note the stark contrast between the gobbledegook that Greg Hunt poured out in an unremitting stream in his interview with Barrie Cassidy and Greg Combet’s balanced and informative statements to Alan Kohler? To my mind, Hunt’s way of speaking raises serious concerns about his cognition. His flight of ideas, and his inability or unwillingness to direct his answers to the question make for confused listening. It is almost as if he has loaded his mind with a set of talking points that he is intent of ‘getting across’, and no matter what the question, these are trotted out. When the transcript is available, I’ll post the link as that will make it easier to recognize the disconnect between question and answer. He uses the words ‘very clear’ almost obsessively, but what he says is the flip side of ‘very clear’ Today, I’ll be out of action most of the day with family commitments, but will return this evening. Have a happy conversation while I’m away.

Min

18/09/2011Lyn, apologies for the hiccup in the system over at the Café..have been having technical problems but have to wait until Migs is back in order to fix these. Thank you to one and all while I've been temporary Blogmaster.

D Mick Weir

18/09/2011Still no Rose Buds Rosemary has some delightful purple coverings Elsewhere, yap, yap, miaow, purrrrrrrr.

Patricia WA

18/09/2011I thought Insiders was well worth watching this week. Much more balanced than usual and some common sense talked about carbon pricing and the CEF bills. What an interesting consensus too on how Abbott looks over the asylum seeker legislation. I think the PM genuinely wants this legislation passed, but if she was trying to wedge Abbott with it she's done a pretty good job. I agree with Ad astra about Greg Combet. What an impressive human being. I think he comes across as a Superman, even in his Clark Kent persona. He doesn't need the tights and cape at all! I wouldn't want an ALP leadership change so long as Julia Gillard wants to be PM, but some time in the distant future I would be very comfortable with Greg C leading the country. Yes, Aa, It was interesting to watch those two interviews. Alan Kohler clearly respected Combet and listened intently to his responses, knowing that they mattered. Greg Hunt babbled on in response to Barry Cassidy's reasonably searching questions. I think both were relieved when the interview was over. Hunt because he had run out of [i]non sequiturs[/i] and Cassidy because he didn't have to listen to any more of them.

Tom of Melbourne

18/09/2011[i[“Another boat, another policy failure”.[/i] Julia has such a rich history of bipartisanship in policies relating to asylum seekers, she has every right to insist on cooperation from Abbott. I mean, she’s never, not ever, made political gain on the issue. Julia’s hands are clean, and Abbott MUST simply fall into line, and help Julia out of the deep sh!t she’s found herself in, and through no fault of her won!

jane

18/09/2011Patricia WA, the mental image of the self-absorbed Crabbe keeping one eye on the mirror as she types her puff pieces is hilarious. TT, a great tribute to the three courageous Independents, who could have just bowed to dingbat pressure, but chose not to, because as you say, they are patriots in the best sense of the word. I hope Liealot and the Liars Party are exposed for the no talent wreckers they are, in time for the Independents to reap the reward of reelection they truly deserve. To paraphrase you, they have served their electorates and the country well. [quote]So Abbott is not going to support the Government with the Asylum Seeker Policy, now that's different. I am desperate to find out if this is a wedge by Julia.[/quote] Oh I hope so, lyn. A big, fat, very painful and humiliating one. TT, it's no good appealing to their sense of decency, the decencyectomy occurred the day they got into bed for a foursome with Emperor Rupert, Liealot and the Liars Party. You could see with Crabbe in particular, that she was quivering with sexual desire for Liealot. That alone is enough to question her sanity, if nothing else. It certainly brings her morality, decency and judgement into question. She disgusts me, frankly and no amount of fancy footwork on her part excuses her lies, obfuscations and distortions. Unfortunately, like Liaealot, she has NO sense of shame or morality; her gigantic ego won't allow it. BTW TT, you're not mean enough, imo. Ad astra, a great analysis of Crabbe. Being called a lightweight is the greatest insult that can be delivered to this narcissistic second rate wannabe. I hope the rest of Liealot's sycophants in the msm [b]do[/b] read what is said about them on this and other blogs and realise that they're not fooling anyone. Farnsworth is another brown nosing sycophant, who needs to take a hard look at himself. ToM, as usual, nice try but no cigar. Liealot's an abject failure. He's only got [b]himself[/b] to blame for being a failure. Get your hand off it and face the facts. If Liealot has been wedged sheet the blame home to him-he's the richard cranium who fell for it. You're just huffed because his pathetic attempt at using Nauru as a wedge was so obvious there was a giant neon arrow pointing to the words Liars Party Wedge Attempt. Yet another [i]Great Big Fail[/i] you can chalk down to Liealot. Kinda reminds me of the Grech affair. lol

Gravel

18/09/2011What a lot of wonderful Sunday morning comments. Nas, thanks for sharing a harsh part of your life. Patricia, your comments are always very insightful. Talk Turkey, you are doing your wonderful stuff again. Feral Skeleton, well done for surviving your child's 16th birthday. I had to ring 7 year old grandson to sympathize on his AFL teams' loss. He was surprisingly good about it, we talked about their chances next year. I love it when someone so young can take a loss gracefully. The tears may have flowed last night but this morning he is looking at the future with optimism. The other grandson, going on 9, his team play next week, fingers crossed I don't have to do another sympathetic call. I found insiders reasonable, apart from the above mentioned Hunt. Was trying to listen to Inside Business but had a visitor at the vital time so missed Greg Combet. Can I watch it on iview?

D Mick Weir

18/09/2011... and the garden centre was packed. Petunias, Lobelias, Strawflowers and some other bits will make for a clourful eyefull in six weeks or so. And sp I will potter off to de-pot and plant.

Gravel

18/09/2011jane You, among others here, write a lot of stuff I think but can't put into words. Thanks.

jane

18/09/2011Happy to oblige, Gravel. However, from reading your comments you need no assisstance, imo.

lyn

18/09/2011 Hi Ad This is going to bite Mr Abbott somewhere,I wonder where. I didn't watch the Insiders but I heard them. It seemed to me that Greg Hunt was talking for a very long time, can the Liaberals pay for a longer interview I wonder. I didn't listen to Greg Hunt because he upsets my commonsense. Jane is being fabulous, as Gravel said saying what we think. [quote]Farnsworth is another brown nosing sycophant, who needs to take a hard look at himself[/quote] [quote]self-absorbed Crabbe keeping one eye on the mirror as she types her puff pieces is hilarious[/quote]. What about the ridiculous Advert. where she puts her hand with a pen in it to the camera, just like a naughty little kid would do. This is going to bite Mr Abbott somewhere?? do you think? [quote] Liberal forced to foot bill in Abbott's war on pairs, Stephanie Peatling, SMH THE Liberal frontbencher Steve Ciobo will have to spend thousands of dollars of his own money to fly back from New York to vote on the carbon tax because his party insists every MP must be present. The opposition says Mr Ciobo will cover the cost of the trip himself[/quote]. http://www.smh.com.au/national/liberal-forced-to-foot-bill-in-abbotts-war-on-pairs-20110917-1kesc.html#ixzz1YHCIftBk Cheers:):):):):):)

jane

18/09/2011[quote]This is going to bite Mr Abbott somewhere??[/quote] On the bum, perhaps, Lyn? Can you imagine Liealot careering down the road with a very determined exposé terrier attached to his derriere. It does confirm what ludicrous lengths these wreckers will go to to get even a D-. Sorry Liealot, another big fat fail. The behaviour of this opposition and its leader will go down in history as an extreme example of how to be irrelevant. And another in hot pursuit of Crabbe. The pen in the camera won't help her, then!

NormanK

18/09/2011My prediction for the week ahead (if they can do it on [i]Insiders[/i] surely I'm allowed to on [i]TPS[/i]). :) If, as has been reported in various outlets, the amendments to the Migration Act that Julia Gillard has presented to Tony Abbott are more far-reaching than what was promised to Caucus then this could be viewed as a bargaining ploy. Abbott and Gillard strike a deal that waters down the amendments until they are in line with earlier proposals (re-instating ministerial discretion to pre-High Court judgement conditions) so that Abbott doesn't lose face by having to support a government bill - in fact he gets bragging rights as the new champion of human rights. Gillard loses a bit of face but gets the Left of the party back on side and far more importantly gets the legislative changes that she requires to implement the Malaysian deal. In this regard I am reminded of the feeling I get a couple of days after having beaten a salesperson down on the price of a new toy that I really want. As I leave the store, I am punching a fist into the air because I have won a fifteen percent discount off the marked price. Clever me. A couple of days later I have to ask myself - was the toy worth the price I paid for it? Usually, the answer is yes. Concurrent with that thought is the realisation that I didn't leave that salesperson despondent with the knowledge that they had sold the toy for a reduced price. They don't care. Two seconds after closing the deal, all they will be thinking is - "great, another sale! Next!" My prediction is Abbott puts up amendments to the legislation, it is agreed to by Gillard and duly passed. It costs Abbott a bit to vote in favour of government legislation, it costs Gillard a bit to appear to have been compromised but in the end both parties are happy with the outcome. In the example above, I have my new toy at what I think is a reasonable price, the salesperson has the sale. Everybody's happy.

jane

18/09/2011And of course, there's a 15% tolerance on the price in any case, NormanK. Honour is satisfied; everyone's a winner, except maybe the poor bloody asylum seekers. But one less drumbeat of negativity the msm and the opposition have to startle the animals with. D'you reckon Liealot will go for it? After all he, the dingbats and the msm won't be able to whine constantly about our borders being invaded by hordes of "illegals" and we'll all be rooned. Will they be able to kick the snivelling habit? Think of poor Dolt and Anal; they'll be shattered! They'll be wedged as well! They won't be able to spew out their spttle flecked bile without giving the anointed one a touch up. Now that would be interesting; watching them twisting and turning trying to avoid acknowledging their hero's treachery to the cause. Should we stockpile popcorn, cheese and a good drop?

NormanK

18/09/2011jane All of the attention and television cameras will be focussed on anyone who has been transferred to Malaysia. It will be interesting to see how far some of these guys will go in terms of vilifying one of our nearest neighbours. Don't underestimate the creative ability of the shock-jocks and newspaper sub-editors to find new ways to criticise, regardless of the outcome. By the way, thanks for the '15% tolerance' reminder - a point that I had meant to make. So the question is - does the overreach of current amendments constitute 'tolerance' that can be surrendered during negotiations? D Mick Weir Happy gardening! :) You guys down south have my sympathy for being weeks behind the enlightened North. Roses approaching the height of their season, petunias in full bloom and winter flowers enjoying this mild Spring weather by extending their flowering. Very nice.

Patricia WA

18/09/2011NormanK and jane, yes! Amazing, isn't it, that commentators to a man ([i]sic![/i]) seem to have forgotten that Julia Gilliard is renowned for her negotiating skills! She does know what she's doing, and what she wants. You can bet she won't let on for a long time about exactly what she had in mind as she played this one. Yup - the best Camembert, olives and champers!

2353

18/09/2011NormanK @ 4.49 I hope you prediction is not accurate. At the bare minimum I hope Gillard puts up her amendments - they are voted down and Gillard then maxes the publicity that Abbott couldn't/wouldn't fix a problem the last LNP Government created while introducing on-shore processing with Greens support, while throwing the book at people smugglers. Sooner or later the PM has to go for the jugular. Processing of refugees is an issue that the LNP has "owned" up to now because every ALP leader since Beasley has let them do it scot free. Demonstrating for the world to see that Abbott really doesn't give a [whatever] about refugees except the political points he has been scoring is a really good start to grinding him down.

jane

18/09/2011spttle? NormanK, I wouldn't put anything past these idiots, particularly Anal. Wrecking our relationship with another country is his stock in trade, particularly if it's an Asian country. I'm sure all the Murdoch and Liars party spin doctors are beavering away as I write this, searching for the tiniest chink. I hope the PM will have them wedged into a space so small, even a mouse mad with hunger couldn't force a whisker in to get at the bacon fat. And when they're all crowbarred in, SNAP! They might lose a few small fish, but they'll work it. Of course, I could be wrong, the PM nay not be interested in wedging the buggers, but it would be a bonus and an opportunity to point and laugh! It's not that I detest the whole mob.....OK I lied. I loathe them all with a deep and abiding loathing and nothing would make me happier than to see them cast into the cracks of Doom. Any survivors would be fed to Sauron for morning tea, if there's still such a thing. I've digressed. I reckon there would be a tolerance factor built into the proposed amendments which can be surrendered without any loss of face by either party. I imagine this tolerance is a feature of most legislation and amendments. The only one I can see being rigidly inflexible is Liealot, but hopefully the government has allowed for his inability to bend or negotiate on anything. Gillard is a pretty sharp operator in the art of negotiation and compromise. She's very personable and charming, from all reports and can soothe the most savage breast.

Patricia WA

18/09/2011This time though her stance was confrontational. Take it or leave it! I love the commentariat's '[i]pleading[/i]' headlines.

Patricia WA

18/09/2011No one else has commented on the exchange that Casablanca and I had yesterday evening about Laurie Oakes and his coming out of hibernation writing re Swann being the best Treasurer in the world!!!! www.heraldsun.com.au/.../comments-fn56baaq-1226139387079 My comment to him was printed by the Hun!

NormanK

18/09/20112353 I know we've just about done this subject to death here (I know I'm exhausted) but I can't see any way of combining on-shore processing and minimising the potential for more drownings. This is such a complex subject that there is no one answer that satisfies all parties. The first time a boat even looks like being missing at sea the press and the Coalition will be laying the blame for it at the feet of the government. Unfortunately, one of the things driving me on this are the tears that streamed down my face while I watched the funerals earlier this year. I can empathise with Bowen not wanting to go through that again.

Ad astra

18/09/2011Folks I’m back after a happy day with the family. Thank you all for your comments. They make great reading. I promised the link to Barrie Cassidy’s interview of Greg Hunt. Here it is: http://www.abc.net.au/insiders/content/2011/s3320240.htm See if you can detect the connection between question and answer. Patricia WA I do hope that Wayne Swan does receive the award you indicated. He thoroughly deserves it. If he does, I wonder what the Coalition will say?

Patricia WA

18/09/2011NormanK and jane, here is the [i]pleading[/i]I mentioned to you above. I challenged that several hours ago and was told within forty minutes - [i][b]Your comment has been published:[/b][/i] [i]I wouldn't describe it as 'pleading!' From what I saw on the tele she challenged him! I'd say Abbott is well and truly wedged on this one. Does he vote the way he's been talking for years, or does he go back on all that, ignore all official advice, and queer his own future policy needs? Just so he can yet again say NO![/i] Now several hours later it still hasn't appeared! Having flu and being housebound means I've had time to surf the net and poke my nose in here and there! But so many of the threads are anti-JG in the MSM I suspect they have teams of wizened and malicious little gnomes paid to do nothing but dream up nasty comments and vitriol. I refuse to believe that the average Aussie is really like that.

Patricia WA

18/09/2011Sorry, forgot the link! http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/prime-minister-julia-gillard-pleading-for-malaysia-support/story-e6freuzr-1226139379341

NormanK

18/09/2011Patricia WA Is there an academic out there seeking to draw a correlation between outbreaks of the 'flu and increased activity in cyberspace? The wizened and malicious gnomes might just be grumpy 'cause they've got the lurgy. :) Good on you for pushing back, by the way.

jane

18/09/20112353, I favour a stiletto expertly slid between the ribs. Sort of appeals to the Cesare Borgia in me. lol Patricia WA, congratulations on getting your comment printed. I finally managed to read the article after having to wait for God knows how long for it to load. A taste of the internet under the Liars Party. Like Ad astra, I hope Swan gets the gong. He sure does deserve it. And I want to gloat big time.

D Mick Weir

18/09/2011NormanK @ 8:25 PM, [i]Is there an academic out there seeking to draw a correlation between outbreaks of the 'flu and increased activity in cyberspace?[/i] You betcha. Read somewhere that Google is working with health officials to help forecast outbreaks of flu' or whatever due to increases of searches on such stuff. Apparently very good predictive tool. (Memory, no supporting link, but whatever, trust me, I now reside in Canberra and we are here to help - :) ) OK not quite what you asked but reckon the boffins at Google are tracking such stuff.

Feral Skeleton

18/09/2011NormanK, In answer to your querulous statement: [quote]...but I can't see any way of combining on-shore processing and minimising the potential for more drownings. [/quote] May I just say that I have been trying for the last few days now, on and off, to pin down a rabid Greens' supporter, An Onymous Lefty, aka Jeremy Sears, on what is the answer to that very live conundrum wrt the Asylum Seeker debate. You will be amused to hear that he, the public intellectual on the blogs and Twitter for The Greens, evinces no valid resolution to that dilemma. It has flummoxed him, essentially, and the best way around more deaths at sea and on the ragged rocks of Christmas Island, is to make sure that only 'Safe Boats' come from Indonesia to Australia! To which I replied that it is not easy, you know, for the poor Indonesian fishermen who own and man the boats to be able to provide a 'Safe Boat' for the Asylum Seekers on all occasions. So, he replied that we, Australia, must therefore provide them with the funds to buy 'Safe Boats'. To which I replied that we may as well just buy them the Cruise Ship to ferry them between Indonesia and Australia, 'safely'. Which is the reductio ad absurdem of his argument really. In other words, The Greens thought they were onto a winner with their warm and fuzzy, 'All Onshore Detention, All the Time' policy. Until such time as it started to come unstuck last Christmas on Christmas Island, when it became obvious to all that a side-effect of the 'Let Them Come' mentality was a perennial percentage of Asylum Seekers drowned and dashed upon the rocks. Which doesn't quite gel with the Earth Mother to Asylum Seeker image that The Greens were promulgating. Not to mention those who were trying to formulate a new conspiracy theory by which they could blame the Gillard government for the deaths last Christmas off Christmas Island. You see, according to the Xmas Is., Truthers, the government knew the boat was coming 2 days before it pitched up on Xmas Is., but they let it keep coming on purpose and made the Navy stay on the other side of the island and only go out to help when it was too late to do any good. Sheesh! And these are supposedly intelligent, rational people with University degrees and the like.Who are basically just making it up as they go along now that they are in a corner. Just like Tony Abbott. :D

NormanK

18/09/2011Feral Skeleton "querulous" - [i]adjective[/i] complaining in a petulant or whining manner. Hmmm. More to follow.

D Mick Weir

18/09/2011NormanK @ 5:31 PM [i]You guys down south have my sympathy for being weeks behind the enlightened North.[/i] Ahhh ... but ... We have Vivaldi ... We enjoy [i]Four Seasons[/i]

NormanK

18/09/2011Geez I love the internet. Not wanting to trust solely on my memory I did a quick search and found: [quote]In the past, most SIEVs have been of mainly wooden construction and have been burnt to ensure any hitch-hiking exotic species do not make it to Australian soil.[/quote] That explains why less-than-safe boats are used - they are confiscated and destroyed. Who in their right mind would put up their lovely new vessel in order to have it suffer such a fate. This is yet another aspect of the trade that gives the lie to the whole 'modern-day Schindler' schtick. You can add in 50 people x $5000 each = $250,000 income per small boatload. With outlays to the boat-owner, the captain, a couple of kids as crew and a few hundred dollars in consumables, it is not hard to see why people want to get in on the action. I have no sympathy for the Schindler defence. Actually, the whole item was informative. [quote][b]What to do with those fibreglass SIEVs[/b] Increasingly sophisticated suspect illegal entry vessels (SIEV) containing fibreglass in their construction pose new challenges for AQIS in managing their disposal because destruction by fire is in contravention of the Environment Protection Authority (EPA) guidelines. In the past, most SIEVs have been of mainly wooden construction and have been burnt to ensure any hitch-hiking exotic species do not make it to Australian soil. A new protocol, developed nationally, was trialled for the first time in Darwin on 14 April 2009. After the usual pre-treatment spraying and rodent baiting protocols were completed, the vessel was brought to the approved destruction site where an AQIS entomologist and a quarantine officer determined the location and amount of timber in the vessel. The timber was exposed through cutting and drilling so it could be fumigated effectively. A licensed fumigator then covered the vessel with a tarpaulin and fumigated with methyl bromide. Once the fumigation was completed, the vessel was released from quarantine, broken up and disposed of in the same way as any domestic waste. All SIEVs are of quarantine concern because they often harbour exotic species that could harm Australia's agriculture, environment and human health. Exotic mosquitoes, termites, ants, pests of stored grain and rodents are among the threats.[/quote] http://www.daff.gov.au/aqis/about/reports-pubs/biosecurity-bulletin/2009/june-july

NormanK

18/09/2011BMW [i]Four Seasons[/i] is a direct hit. I'm dreading the arrival of Summer which could happen any day now. Completely different subject, you might be interested in this site - can't say I agree with the people smuggler stuff but never-the-less it is interesting. http://www.safecom.org.au/vilepeoplesmugglers.htm

jane

18/09/2011Partricia WA, thanks for the link. When I have a million years to spare I'll have a look. (Crap internet) The msm does indeed have wizened, malicious gnomes with special vitriol glands which they spray indiscriminately in all directions. They have been specially programmed to be even more spiteful if the PM's name is mentioned. They live in a purpose built dingbattery and are forced to consume a steady diet of Tea Party propaganda and Liars Party talking points. Their nights are haunted by the ghastly screeches of Sophie Mirabella, Julie and Bronwyn Bishop and Senator George Brandis. No wonder they're constantly outraged. I also feel exceptionally grumpy because #2 son and I have picked up a particularly spiteful and malevolent virus, no doubt manufactured in Liealot's kitchen. We've had it for ages and some cheery soul at the Chemists says it's probably the 100 day cold. Oh goody! Son has lost his voice, and we're both suffering terminal tiredness, aching everything sizzling temperatures and a stupid unproductive cough. GRUMBLE!!!!! FS @9.17pm. Tee Hee! However, I don't think NormanK was being querulous, more fed up. Have I mentioned I'm grumpy?

Feral Skeleton

18/09/2011NormanK, Sorry, I meant 'quizzical'. I thought, off the top of a very empty head that 'querulous' meant querying. My 'bad' as they say in the Internet Classics,(I think). :$

Feral Skeleton

18/09/2011NK, In my defence may I also add that I have been doing double duty today finding make-up and high heel shoes that would fit my son to wear to his Year 12 Muck Up Day tomorrow(They are going to cross dress with the girls! Ah, the creative minds of the Selective High School child. :) ). Thus, I have been here, there and everywhere in my mind today. Plus was getting over the night before. Please accept my very heaviest, very humblest apologies again. :)

NormanK

18/09/2011Feral Skeleton Tee hee. I knew what you meant. It was actually pretty funny coming from you - directed at me. I'm working up a troll persona - [i]Querulous Maximus[/i]. What should my Gravatar be? Alf Garnett perhaps?

D Mick Weir

18/09/2011NK, a Laurie Oakes lookalike?

Casablanca

18/09/2011[i]Parliamentary privilege is used as the WikiLeaks of sex scandals more than anything else.[/i] A flurry of abuses Charles Waterstreet SMH September 18, 2011 Read more: www.smh.com.au/.../...f-abuses-20110917-1kevx.html reCAPTCHA: secuso loins Casablanca

Min

19/09/2011Lyn, just to let you know that I've advised Migs about the hiccup in the system..Migs says that he'll look at the problem around Wednesday or Thusday. In the meanwhile, I'll make certain that I keep checking pending so make certain noone gets stuck there.

TalkTurkey

19/09/2011Swordsfolks, I'm about to go on adventure to NSW Central Coast for Bro-in-law's big birthday. 10 days or so, laptop yes but coverage not certain. Don't fret (or get your hopes up), I'll be ba-a-ack!

lyn

19/09/2011 [b]TODAY’S LINKS[/b] [i]Child Psychology?, Ash, Ash’s Machiavellian Bloggery[/i] How do you get Tony Abbott to vote for onshore processing. By offering him offshore processing.At least I hope that is what is going on. Otherwise, I might try the liquid this time Prime Minister. http://ashghebranious.wordpress.com/2011/09/18/child-psychology/ [i]Consolidate or disintegrate, Andrew Elder, Politically Homeless[/i] As I've said, the legislative battle over the Malaysian solution is another example where Gillard is setting herself up well. The media has (again) fallen for Abbott's pantomime of "will I or won't I ... umm, after careful consideration, no". The real story is that, for the first time, Gillard has a backup plan; one that engages Labor people http://andrewelder.blogspot.com/2011/09/consolidate-or-disintegrate.html [i]Asylum seekers in Australia - Open letter to the Prime Minister, Mark Thompson, Seeking Asylum Down Under[/i] The UNHCR, IOM could be brought in as partners in the process to lend their mandated legitimacy to the exercise. Isn't it time to stop playing to the reactionary's game book? I for one would rejoin the ALP if this approach was followed. thttp://seekingasylumdownunder2.blogspot.com [i]Greg Jericho -@grogsgamut - talks about political journalism , Soundcloud Com[/i] http://soundcloud.com/harrison-polites/greg-jericho-grogsgamut-talks [i]Robert Manne vs The Australian, Tim Lambert, Deltoid[/i] I'm up to number 70 in my coverage of The Australian's War on Science and my posts don't go back ten years or try to be remotely comprehensive. Manne found 21 articles by Christopher Pearson alone and he didn't go back ten years either.It says something about the standards at The Australian that it would print something so wildly, ridiculously false. http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2011/09/robert_manne_vs_the_australian.php?utm_source=selectfeed&utm_medium=rss [i]Deconstructing Paul Kelly, Robert Manne, The Monthly[/i] Given that Mitchell regards my writing as “crap” – strange really as I have had an open offer since February 2009 to contribute to his paper – my instinct about how he would use his right to extracts of Bad News to damage the essay was obviously entirely justified. http://www.themonthly.com.au/deconstructing-paul-kelly-robert-manne-3898#.TnUYb8VG0FI. [i]Wait, does News think its readers might LIKE Labor’s anti-refugee plan?., Jeremy Sear, Pure Poison[/i] and News.com.au, the most notorious whingers about people coming here seeking asylum, are completely ignoring it. Seriously – check out the news.com.au main page right now. Not a thing on there about it http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2011/09/17/wait-does-news-think-its-readers-might-like-labors-anti-refugee-plan/?utm_ [i]The Carbon War, By Reporter Marian Wilkinson and Producer Deb Masters, ABC[/i] 'The Carbon War', presented by Kerry O'Brien, goes to air on Monday 19th September at 8.30pm on ABC1. It is replayed on Tuesday 20th September at 11.35pm. It can also be seen on ABC News 24 at 8.00pm on Saturdays, on ABC iview and at abc.net.au/4corners. http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2011/09/15/3318364.htm [i]Four Corners: Sept 19, David Knox, TV Tonight[/i] Tony Abbott claimed the carbon tax would destroy jobs in the coal industry. Four Corners goes to the Bowen Basin in Queensland to find out what’s really going on. Will investment stop? Will jobs be lost? Will these regions be devastated? http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2011/09/four-corners-sept-19.html [i]THE VIBE OF THE THING- Why Tony Abbott will never repeal the carbon tax, Vex News[/i] but whatever the rights or wrongs of it, the politics is clear: the carbon tax and the permits issued under it will almost certainly never be repealed,no matter what Tony Abbott says http://www.vexnews.com/2011/09/the-vibe-of-the-thing-why-tony-abbott-will-never-repeal-the-carbon-tax/ [i]Abbott’s thugs not fit to run the Country, Barry Everingham, Independent Australia[/i] The behaviour in the House of Representatives of the Leader of the Opposition and those behind him have this week given us a glaring and disgusting example of just how unready they are to be given the responsibility of running this country. http://www.independentaustralia.net/2011/politics/abbotts-thugs-not-fit-to-run-the-country/ [i]Press Council: A dog that wants to bite ,Paul Barry, The Power Index[/i] Disney says the council intends to work harder to ensure accuracy and fairness, and will be targeting three areas: "opinion masquerading as fact", "misleading headlines", and "publications not making sufficient effort to find out the facts". http://www.thepowerindex.com.au/power-move/press-council-a-dog-that-wants-to-bite/20110916411 [i]First A Media Inquiry, Then Regulatory Reform? Ben Eltham, New Matilda[/i] I welcome the media inquiry. Even if it only begins to scratch the surface of the problems of supporting news gathering and "quality journalism" in the 21st century — and it has already opened up an energetic discussion about the nature of News Limited’s bias — that will be a important development in Australia’s public sphere http://newmatilda.com/2011/09/16/first-media-inquiry-then-regulatory-reform [i]Beecher: media inquiry has mandate to address problems,Eric Beecher, Crikey[/i] The third problem is the concentration of newspaper (and therefore journalism) ownership in the hands of News Limited — a problem that has actually been compounded by the arrival of the internet as a news source, which in terms of audience size is dominated, as in print,by News and other newspaper publishers. http://www.crikey.com.au/2011/09/16/beecher-media-inquiry-has-mandate-to-address-problems/ [i]It’s Opposite Day in the world of media regulation, Spongeist[/i] Finding a way to introduce the controls and complaint mechanisms that the community wants, while also – crucially – fostering competition, ought to be the central concern of the inquiry. But at this point it seems just as likely that the mutual interests of politicians and established media companies http://spongeist.wordpress.com/2011/09/15/its-opposite-day-in-the-world-of-media-regulation/ [i]But he said it was a tax! , Posts by itsouraustralia, Australia now[/i] strictly speaking, there is no carbon tax under the government that Prime Minister Gillard leads, but a carbon fee or price. Shttp://itsouraustralia.wordpress.com/2011/09/16/but-he-said-it-was-a-tax/ [i]Oppn asks Gillard to abandon carbon ads, Channel 7[/i] The Opposition is writing to the Prime Minister demanding the Government withdraw a $25 million advertising campaign promoting the carbon tax.The coalition also wants the Government to provide revised Treasury modelling of the tax to a parliamentary inquiry. http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/newshome/10282840/oppn-asks-gillard-to-abandon-carbon-ads/?cmp= [i]Australia Says Carbon Tax Plan Will Give Investors ‘Certainty’ Robert Fenner, Bloomberg[/i] The legislation isn’t likely to be repealed even if the ruling Labor party were to lose power to the Liberal-National coalition led by Tony Abbott, Climate Change Minister Greg Combet told Australian Broadcasting Corp. television today. Bills for the new tax were introduced into the nation’s House of Representatives last week http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-18/australia-says-carbon-tax-plan-will-give-investors-certainty-.html [i]How The Australian Newspaper Warps The World of Climate Science, Graham Readfearn, Desmogblog[/i] This is the divisive state of climate change science in the pages of the nation’s sole national newspaper The Australian, according to a 115-page examination of the publication’s role in shaping how Australia thinks. http://www.desmogblog.com/how-australian-newspaper-warps-world-climate-science [i]News Corp and The Hackers a scandel in two parts, Rodney Tiffen, Inside Story[/i] Here in Australia, the scandal has prompted an independent inquiry into the news media. In the United States there are several shareholder suits against News Corp, which may produce far-reaching changes in the corporation’s governance, not to mention Rupert’s dynastic ambitions. http://inside.org.au/a-scandal-in-two-parts/ [i]Final NBN first release site now live in South Australia, Brenton Currie , Delimeter[/i] Attention now turns to the next phase of the NBN project on mainland Australia, with work already underway on the first of many second release sites. NBN Co is also preparing to begin work on a number of rural 4G LTE sites that’ll provide wireless high-speed broadband. http://delimiter.com.au/2011/09/16/final-nbn-first-release-site-now-live-in-south-australia/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_ [i]National Broadband Network goes live in Willunga, NBN Co[/i] The first release fibre network in Willunga covers 940 premises, with residents in approximately 91 percent of properties having consented to the installation of optical fibre to their premises during construction to make them "NBN ready." http://nbnco.com.au/news-and-events/news/national-broadband-network-goes-live-in-willunga.html [i]The Murdoch Media Empire Has Cost Humanity Decades in the Battle Against Climate Change, Michael Ashley, Truthout[/i] The Murdoch media empire has cost humanity perhaps one or two decades of time in the battle against climate change. Each lost decadegreatly increases the eventual economic costs, the devastation to our ecosystems, and the suffering of future generations…. http://www.truth-out.org/murdoch-media-empire-has-cost--battle-4905029?2F%2ForgF [quote]Is Wayne Swan the greatest Treasurer in the world? Laurie Oakes, The Punch[/quote] This is why Swan is favourite to walk away from the Washington International Monetary Fund meeting and [b]G-20 economic summit with the Euromoney gold medal.[/b] http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/is-wayne-swan-the-greatest-treasurer-in-the-world/ [i]ALP best manager of money, history shows , George Megalogenis, The Australian[/i] New analysis of fiscal policy going back to the 1970s contains a shock for voters who generally rate the Coalition as the better economic manager.[b]In fact, Labor treasurers have been more frugal, [/b]with Paul Keating the only treasurer to cut government spending in real terms, when the economy was growing in the second half of the 1980s .http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/alp-best-manager-of-money-history-shows/story-fn59niix-1226056371414 [i]Second Exposure Draft - Minerals Resource Rent Tax Bill 2011, Australian Government[/i] The draft Bill provides the legislative framework for the MRRT. The EM explains, in broad terms, how the MRRT will be implemented http://www.treasury.gov.au/contentitem.asp?NavId=037&ContentID=2157 [i]The Fox From Bennalong, Independent Australia[/i] If ever a LEADER that strode this land, And crushed our National Pride;John Howard, you FOX, come raise your hand and Bloody—well step aside. http://www.independentaustralia.net/2011/republic/the-fox-from-bennelong/?utm_source=rss&utm_

lyn

19/09/2011Hi Min Thankyou for letting me know, you are efficiency plus, I am sure the problem is minor. I wasn't worried about myself, but concerned that new readers may be encountering the same problem. Cheers:):):):):):)

lyn

19/09/2011Hi Talk Turkey You be careful up there, you are venturing into Feral territory. Just joking have a nice time at the birthday. You better check in now and again, or we will worry about you. Cheers:):):):):):)

2353

19/09/2011NormanK @ 7.45pm You're right in that I can't think of a way to do on-shore processing of refugees and deter the sadistic trade of people smugglers either. Dunno about you, but I don't have a law degree, the contacts in Governments overseas and a plethora of Public Servants behind me to help me find a humane and acceptable solution. There has to be a way to do it. That what our politicians should be getting the big bucks for - solving intractable problems such as this one rather than arguing about "who's on first". And a suggestion for your "alternate" identity - a John Howard photo; it'll drive 'em nuts! FS @ 9.17 While I agree with you're distaste on the idea of "giving them the boats" on the sheer economics (hiring a 737 every couple of weeks would have to be cheaper!), I recollect that refugees die in tunnel collapses in America, asphyxiate in "hidden" compartments in refrigeration trucks in Europe and are just shot in other parts of the world. Unfortunately the reality is that while there is instability in parts of the world, there are those that will "take the punt" on being transported in an unusual manner to escape the area because they fear for their lives. Human nature being what it is, there will always be those who will take advantage of those who would "take the punt". I don't know the solution - but there has to be one somewhere. DMW @ 10.07 [i]We have four seasons. . . [/i] you forgot the "in one day" (at times) in my experience :)

Gravel

19/09/2011Lyn I can't get the Greg Jericho sound thing to work, can you help?

Feral Skeleton

19/09/2011Talk Turkey, Oi! You wash your beak out with soap, young fella me lad! This is the Centre of the Known Universe you are disparaging there. As your B-I-Law will no doubt tell you by bending your ear until it breaks. :D Btw, you are welcome to come for a Coffee or Tea while you are here. Lawd knows all the other BTs do. They have even been known to invite themselves into the house. :)

Feral Skeleton

19/09/2011Oh, and I forgot to add, Mr TT, we have ADSL2+ here now, with pretty amazing coverage due to the fact we have had a policy for decades of not building on the ridges of the mounts around here...which left the place open for Mobile Tower exploitation. :)

lyn

19/09/2011Hi my dear Gravel I just tried and is working for me Ok. Did you press the arrow on the left of the cloud. I will post the link again for you : http://soundcloud.com/harrison-polites/greg-jericho-grogsgamut-talks Cheers:):):)

Feral Skeleton

19/09/2011V.Important discussion between Craig Emerson and Marius Benson on the Asylum Seekers issue: http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/newsradio/audio/20110919-emerson.mp3

lyn

19/09/2011 Hi Ad On Q&A: Kristina Keneally, Raimond Gaita, Cristina Rad, Jim Wallace and Gerard Henderson Mr Hockey being very vocal over the weekend: [quote]Coalition to purge Labor tax policies , Matthew Franklin, The Australian[/quote] [quote]Joe Hockey has warned householders and businesses that any compensation they receive from the government over next July's introduction of the carbon tax[b] will be taken back by an incoming Coalition government[/b] as part of a push to improve the government's budget position. opposition Treasury spokesman has also vowed to [b]amend Labor's industrial relations[/b] laws to deliver "worker mobility", re-emphasised the Coalition's promise to [b]demolish Labor's mineral [/b]resources rent tax and rejected the use of its proposed parliamentary budget office. [b]reject the Prime Minister's [/b]plea to help her restore offshore processing of asylum-seekers "We will unwind the carbon tax." Labor's proposed parliamentary budget office would not have the power to accurately provide true estimates of the cost of its policies. rejected the planned mining tax,[/quote] http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/coalition-to-purge-labor-tax-policies/story-fn59niix-1226140386118 Cheers:):):):)

Ad astra

19/09/2011LYN'S DAILY LINKS updated: http://www.thepoliticalsword.com/page/LYNS-DAILY-LINKS.aspx

Ad astra

19/09/2011Hi Lyn Thank you for another great set of links. The Greg Jericho link worked for me, but as you say, the arrow at the left of the sound track needs to be clicked. It is a unique way of presenting a blog piece. Congratulations to Greg.

Michael

19/09/2011Read this article by Chris Kenny in The Australian, and... before your eyes, black will become white. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/opinion/love-media-blind-to-grand-narrative/story-e6frgd0x-1226140344826 My response to it: The only "love media" in town is that which allows Tony Abbott to lie on a daily basis about his own policies, and extends the 'love' to Joe Hockey when he promises just now that the Coalition will go into the next election with private company costings of its policies. With all that is very publicly on the record about what their commercially provided 'costings' showed last time. There's no media scrutiny at all of an Opposition that will slide into government on the basis of a slanted media pursuing a current government that fails to thrill them the way the outrageous shiftings of Tony Abbott and the Coalition chorus of mediocrity does.

Gravel

19/09/2011Lyn Yes I did press on the arrow, waited waited waited. Do I have to download something? I have tried other things like this and they have never worked either. Thanks for your quick response, it's Monday, which is washing day, so I'm popping in and out while I work.

lyn

19/09/2011Hi Gravel I can't help anymore Gravel, I am so sorry, Ad Astra says the works or him and works for me. Try refreshing your page or perhaps if you copy the shortcut, put it into your internet explorer search. Norman K might come along soon, he will know something for you. I woud love you to be able to listen, as Ad Astra said it's a new unique way of presenting a blog piece. Cheers:):):):):)

Gravel

19/09/2011Lyn Thanks heaps for trying. I tried everything, joined up, did other stuff but still it won't play. Hopefully as you say, NormanK will come along and help.

NormanK

19/09/2011Gravel I suspect you need to install Adobe Flash Player - it's free. Follow the link below and download the version that suits your operating system - my guess is [b]Windows 7/Vista/XP/2008/2003[/b] @ Step 1 and [b]Flash Player for Windows Internet Explorer @ Step 2.[/b] If you are on a different operating system or a different browser, simply select the appropriate settings. Download, double click to open (if necessary) and then follow instructions. Get back to me with results or further questions. Perhaps we need to coax you over to another web browser but if you are a bit computer illiterate then you probably want to stick with what you are familiar with. You know I mean that kindly. :) Happy washing. :D http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/

Tom of Melbourne

19/09/2011I’m sure this anti asylum seeker legislation is proposed with the very best of intentions. I mean, Chris Bowen would only deny people natural justice only for their own good. Abbott should stop playing politics with this issue and let Bowen get on with the job of denying people natural justice.

Patricia WA

19/09/2011Michael. this is Downunderland you know! Everything is topsy-turvy and black is white. Right is left and right at the same time. But left can never be right! I think that Australian article may be a measure of News Ltd's defensiveness, even panic about the media enquiry and the trend towards some objectivity with Fairfax and the forthright criticism of people like Manne. There's plenty of other concerned feedback expressed on the electronic level too. As well, their boy is beginning to look bad, even crazy. As he gets harder to defend, yet more determinedly entrenched as LOTO, they have to target Gillard who is continuing to be a successful legislator, and likely to stay as PM to the end. And I imagine those who have access to the results know that the polls, if not improving for Gillard, aren't getting any worse. So it's time to throw everything at her they can think of. Even this contortionist double think rubbish!

Ad astra

19/09/2011Michael Thank you for your link to the Chris Kenny article. His orientation is well known from what he writes and says on programs like [i]Insiders[/i]. He is a critic of PM Gillard and her Government almost as brash as Piers Akerman. So his article contains no surprises. My question is why he has written the piece now. Is it a defensive reaction to the media enquiry? Is he trying to negate the ‘hate media’ jibe by sarcastically demeaning the ‘love media’ which he believes is out of touch with the electorate, while he and his News Limited mates are in touch? The evidence he invokes in support of his position is the opinion polls, which he believes accurately reflect public opinion. Yet he seems not to consider the possibility that it is the MSM that has created that public opinion via biased reporting, misinformation and at time downright lies. It’s a curious exercise in circular reasoning – create an impression in the public, which is then reflected in the opinion polls, and then cite the opinion polls as evidence of the validity of the impression that has been created. The other possible reason for writing the article is to neutralize an emerging trend, among at least non-News Limited journalists, to give PM Gillard credit where credit is due. To Kenny that would be a dangerous trend as it would at the same time show up even more starkly Tony Abbott’s policy poverty and his relentless negativity. Bill Leak’s cartoon is more apt perhaps than Kenny acknowledges; it applies to Kenny as much as to Abbott. What do you think?

Gravel

19/09/2011NormanK Thank you. I have now done that, I am using firefox, so downloaded that version. Still no go. :-(

NormanK

19/09/2011Gravel You might need to restart your computer in order for Flash Player to take effect. What happens when you press play? You should get a moving orange cursor and the wave pattern turns orange after it has been passed over. If you are getting this but can't hear it, there is a volume control on the upper right of the page - to the right of and slightly below 'Try Premium". In the mean time I'll open Firefox and see if there are any settings that might need a tweak.

Gravel

19/09/2011NormanK Shut down computer, tried again, nothing. Thanks for all your trouble, I see Ad has another post up so I'll just sigh with disappointment, go and do some house work...and then watch QT.

Ad astra

19/09/2011Folks I've just posted [i]Mr Abbott and the Five Concerned Liberals[/i]: http://www.thepoliticalsword.com/post/2011/09/19/Mr-Abbott-and-the-Five-Concerned-Liberals.aspx

NormanK

19/09/2011Gravel I'm not sure what's going on without having a look at your computer. Perhaps you have an ad blocker that is preventing the download. Anyway here is another source for the same file - give it a spin. http://audioboo.fm/boos/450588-greg-jericho-grogsgamut-talks-about-political-journalism

Gravel

19/09/2011NormanK Yes, I do have an ad blocker. Thank you for the other link, it works and it was great. Thank you so much. I'll post this on the other thread in case you miss this.

jane

19/09/2011Chris Kenny has been well inoculated with Liars Party bs. He keeps spruiking the same old Liars Party talking points time and again. He doesn't even try refreshing his fairy tale. And his slagging is never specific. He can't provide more than vague generalisations; Gillard's failed policies for example. Well how about providing details, Chris? Oh that's right you haven't got a clue what policies the government has or hasn't passed. You are a joke and the only people you could possibly hope to impress with your lies, obfuscations and distortions are cheerleaders. Usual failing mark for dingbats. In fact your only pass mark is for brown nosing and lying. You manage a high distinction for that. All I can say is ho hum and a waste of 3 minutes of my life. Ad astra, I agree with your insightful comment on Kenny's puff piece. It also strikes me as recycled Liars Party talking points. The paucity of original thought or ideas along with the tortuous reasoning jibes perfectly with the barren policy landscape of Liealot and the Liars Party. In fact, it's extraordinary how much in synch they are. Anybody would think he wrote speeches for the Rodent. Roll on the media enquiry; hopefully this rubbish won't be allowed to infest the interwebs.
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