David Marr joins ‘the most successful Opposition leader’ chorus

The first words in the online description of David Marr’s Quarterly Essay: Political Animal: The Making of Tony Abbott read: “Tony Abbott is the most successful Opposition leader of the last forty years, but he has never been popular. Now Australians want to know: what kind of man is he, and how would he perform as prime minister?” On last week’s Q&A Marr repeated, with his characteristic certitude, that Tony Abbott “is the most successful Opposition leader…”

Marr is an outstanding essayist and political commentator. His views cannot be carelessly dismissed. So we need to ask how he can make such an assertion. Of course, he is not the only one to do so. Many News Limited journalists have said the same thing in one way or another, from the pontifical Paul Kelly, down to the lesser lights in the Murdoch media and in the Fairfax media too.

What then constitutes success? Let’s leave politics for a moment.

For anything or anybody to be classed as a success, four elements come into play. First, the criteria for success need to be defined; second, a measurement scale needs to be constructed; third, a standard for ‘success’ on that scale needs to be established; and finally, the position occupied by the thing or the person on that scale needs to be measured and judged as having met, or not met, that standard of ‘success’. In educational endeavours, these steps are commonplace.

Let’s take a mundane example. What is a successful cricketer? The criteria of success might be the number of runs scored or wickets captured or catches taken or runs saved in bowling or fielding. For a captain, criteria might include the wisdom of decisions about batting and fielding, team structure, on-field strategy, team culture, and so on. As there is a multitude of measurement scales and expert opinion that capture the extent to which these criteria are being met, it is easy to ascertain how successful individuals are by setting their performance against these measures and the standards that cricket aficionados set.

Returning to politics, what are the criteria of success, and for the purposes of this piece, what are the criteria for success as an Opposition Leader?

It is at this basic level that disagreement begins. For people like David Marr and Paul Kelly and Dennis Shanahan and Michelle Grattan and Peter Hartcher, and even lesser lights such as Graham Richardson and Graeme Morris, it seems that an essential criterion is the ability to oppose. It seems that under the Westminster system, those in opposition feel obliged to oppose. Says Walter Bagehot in The English Constitution: “It is said that England invented the phrase, 'Her Majesty's Opposition'; that it was the first government which made a criticism of administration as much a part of the polity as administration itself.”

Randolph Churchill, whom Tony Abbott quotes in his book Battlelines, said: “The duty of an Opposition is to oppose”, and “Oppositions should oppose everything, suggest nothing, and turf the government out.” This seems to me to be a fundamental flaw in the Westminster system. In an interview of Margaret Thatcher by schoolchildren after her retirement, she recalled that a down side of politics for her was that no matter what she tried to do there was always opposition.

As argued in an earlier piece, Is the job of the Opposition to oppose? NO., it is NOT the job of Opposition to just oppose, but to engage in the process of governance so that the public can benefit from the knowledge and wisdom of all parliamentarians. That piece argued: "They are all paid from the public purse. Why should all of them not contribute and be accountable?"

If simple opposition is a criterion of success for an Opposition Leader, Abbott’s incessant opposition to virtually everything the Government says or does or proposes makes him ipso facto a success, because he measures high on any scale of opposition and reaches the ‘standard’ of ultra-high level opposition. However, as his trenchant opposition has not prevented the Gillard Government from passing over 480 pieces of legislation, his success in thwarting legislation is virtually zero.

But is unremitting opposition what oppositions ought to be about? Of course, where the political ideology of the opposition conflicts with that of the government of the day on a particular issue, opposition is appropriate on that issue.

But there are many instances where ideological positions do not call for opposition. There are instances of collaboration, even close cooperation. Kim Beasley supported John Howard’s initiatives over the ‘Tampa affair’, and Howard supported several Hawke-Keating reforms. In these instances, both sides joined hands in the governance of the nation. That is what I believe should happen more often. Parliamentarians insist it often does, but all we electors see is opposition, obstruction and conflict. Not all of this is ideological. Much of Abbott’s opposition is purely and simply resistance to the Government itself, a Government whose legitimacy Abbott has never accepted. He is hell bent on discrediting and eventually destroying the Gillard Government.

So my question to Marr, and to all who laud Abbott for his success as Opposition Leader, is this: “Is opposition for reasons other than the ideological legitimate, acceptable, even praiseworthy? Is the destruction of an elected government, albeit a minority one, an acceptable function of this Opposition Leader, indeed any opposition leader?” Some commentators think so. They laud Abbott for having dispatched one Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd, and having eroded the status of his successor, Julia Gillard. They congratulate him on how difficult he has made governance for PM Gillard and her Government. Destruction of prime ministers and governments seems to be a criterion that commentators use to judge Abbott, and they rate him a ‘success’ on that criterion. What a wooly view they have of what constitutes legitimate opposition.

Is the repeated use of Question Time to berate the PM, her ministers and the Government a criterion of a good opposition? Is the asking of a tiny array of questions over and again (on carbon tax, minerals tax, budget surplus, asylum seekers) a criterion of a good opposition? Is it good opposition to scarcely ever ask a question about whole areas of government, Trade and Health being two examples? Is it good opposition on over sixty occasions to move the suspension of standing orders to castigate the Government, always unsuccessfully, thereby wasting hundreds of hours of parliamentary time and foregoing countless questions that could have been used to ‘hold the Government to account’, a rightful function for an opposition. Should opposition leaders be judged on the extent to which they use parliamentary time well or poorly? Does Marr consider Abbott should be measured and judged for such behaviour? If so, how does he rate him? Does Marr regard that behaviour as contributing to what he describes as Abbott’s ‘success’?

Does Marr consider contribution to the effective governance of the nation from opposition a rightful function? If so, how does he rate Abbott on that criterion? Does Abbott reach a standard that could be classed as ‘successful’? I doubt it. Marr’s criteria for success seem largely restricted to opposition and destructiveness.

What about parliamentary language and behaviour? Should opposition leaders be judged on how they conduct themselves in this the highest political forum in the nation? Should they be judged on their aggressiveness, the vituperativeness of their language? Did Marr rate Abbott’s ‘died of shame’ reference; did he rate his abusive demeanour and his offensive language directed to our PM? If he did, why does he still rate Abbott as “the most successful Opposition leader of the last forty years?

What about the criteria of honesty and integrity? Are these applicable to opposition leaders, to this Opposition Leader? If they are, how would Marr rate Abbott? Would he rate him as ‘successful’ on those counts?

How would Marr rate Abbott’s performance in interacting with the media? How would he judge Abbott’s avoidance of hard interviews, his predilection for ‘soft’ interviews by his favourite shock jocks, his poor performance when nailed down by insistent interviewers, the lies he has told on many occasions, and his obfuscation and deviousness in answering pointed questions? Is this part of Abbott’s ‘success’?

How do Abbott’s gimmicks rate: fish kissing, butchering, banana stacking, supermarket trawling, truck driving, ‘fire fighting’, bicycle pedaling, surfing, appearing with wife and daughters? Does Marr rate these as a factor in his success?

What about the criteria of messaging and consistency of message? On those, Abbott would score well. He and his staff have manufactured a set of catchy and memorable slogans that he repeats endlessly. We know them all by heart. The fact that they are crass, comprising as they do distortions of the truth or simplistic statements of aspiration without substance is of no concern to Abbott or the Coalition, so long as they stick in people’s minds, so long as they effectively discredit the Government, and advantage the Coalition.

Does Marr, and those who vest Abbott with ‘the most successful Opposition leader’ garland, do so because of these slogans, slogans that have been so mindlessly embraced by the unthinking that they have become part of the political lexicon? If so, is that something we ought to expect of a successful opposition leader? Is skill at conjuring and confidence trickery a laudable attribute for opposition leaders? Perhaps Marr gives Abbott credit for the discipline he has shown in staying on message.

How would Marr judge Abbott’s performance at rallies berating the carbon tax and the minerals tax, appearing in front of banners worded: ‘Juliar’, ‘Ditch the Witch’ and ‘Bob Brown’s Bitch’? More Abbott success?

Does Abbott earn Marr’s mantle because of the depth of his vision for the nation, the richness and variety of his policy offerings, the cohesion and persuasiveness of his policies, the accuracy of his policy costings, and the verve and consistency with which he pursues them? Hardly. Even when Abbott does come out with a policy, it looks paltry – his NBN-lite and his Direct Action Plan to combat global warming are examples. Marr is not without insight. Perhaps he regards Abbott’s ability to keep his policies and costings largely under wraps as a measure of success.

In extolling Abbott success, Marr asserts that he is “turning a rabble into a government in four years.” If holding his party together and having it adhere to the party line are suitable criteria, Abbott has done well. There have been outbreaks of dissonance by Malcolm Turnbull, Joe Hockey, Andrew Robb, Mathias Cormann, Barnaby Joyce, Sophie Mirabella and Cory Bernardi, and most recently intemperate language by staffer Mark Roberts, but by and large Abbott has kept his troops under control. If this is a criterion of success for an opposition leader, let’s give him a modest tick for that.

What about poll ratings? Since commentators and politicians alike dwell on poll results and give credence to them, Abbott could be judged a ‘success’ if elevating the Coalition in the polls is a criterion, although he has been less successful in elevating his own level of popularity. How much weight has Marr given to polling? A lot, it would seem.

Let’s add up the sums. Using the criteria outlined above, how many successes has Abbott had, successes that would warrant ‘the most successful opposition leader’ mantle, and how many failures?

Opposition to virtually everything the Government has done: A SUCCESS for some; a FAIL for many.

Contribution to effective governance: A FAIL by any account.

Damage to the Government and its leaders: A big SUCCESS for those who want to bring the Government down; a heavy FAIL for those who deplore such intent.

Prudent use of parliamentary time and resources: A FAIL by all accounts.

Parliamentary language and behaviour: A FAIL for all except his rusted on supporters.

Honesty and integrity: The evidence points to a big FAIL.

Interacting with the media: His minders would probably classify him as a SUCCESS; many observers would give him a FAIL.

Messaging and consistency of messages: His messages (crass and deceptive though his slogans might be) have met with SUCCESS, and his consistency has been a SUCCESS.

Use of gimmicks, publicity stunts and rally appearances: A SUCCESS for inventiveness, a FAIL for boorishness, tackiness and tastelessness.

Depth of vision, sound policies and costings: A very big FAIL by any assessment.

Keeping his party together and on message: A qualified SUCCESS.

Improving the Coalition’s position in the opinion polls: A big SUCCESS.

So there is my assessment of Abbott’s successes and failures. Of course such evaluation depends on the criteria selected, where Abbott is measured to be on the scale, and whether he has reached the set ‘standard’. Some judgements are subjective; others objective to some degree.

David Marr’s overall assessment of Tony Abbott, the pretender to prime ministership, is one of success. This piece explores what criteria he might have been using, challenges his attribution of ‘success’ to some criteria that I consider dubious or untenable, and ends with a challenge to him: “Detail your criteria to us, tell us how you measured Abbott against them, and then explain how your assessment of him against those criteria warrants the garland ‘the most successful Opposition leader of the last forty years’.


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Tom of Melbourne

21/04/2013YOu've lost the plot.

Patriciawa

21/04/2013Spot on, Ad Astra! I also think that without the uncritical support of the News Ltd press corps and others in mainstream media Abbott would be a total flop and long replaced by Turnbull or even, god forbid, Hockey. I was astonished by David Marr's pronouncement that Monday evening and judging by his body language, hand motions and eye contact with cameras I concluded that he had been 'got at' re publication and promotion of his book, maybe even future employment as an MSM commentator. I was disappointed because his comments flew in the face of common sense and what everyone knows are the facts about Rupert Murdoch's stranglehold on our print and electronic media and how that affects his coveting of our national broadband network. Successful Leader 0f The Opposition? What reform legislation has he prevented this minority government from passing? Who has he weaned away from PMJG's group of Independent allies? Where are the policies which counter all of PM Julia Gillard's successfully launched reform agenda? When is he collecting the keys to the Lodge? When will he be occupying the Government benches? Where are the rising and talented young stars of the Liberal Party who will seated behind him?

Tom of Melbourne

21/04/2013A few of people who have been “got at”, according to some of the mindless types in denial- Bill Kelty Graham Richardson Lindsay Tanner Simon Crean Chris Bowen Michelle Gratten Pual Kelly Now David Marr Grow up. David Marr doesn’t write to appease publishers.

pdmr

21/04/2013Interesting. An average opposition might look good against a weak government. How do we rate an opposition which deposes a government (Fraser opposition). Was Fraser a good oppsition leader, he doesnt seem rate as a Prime Minister.

Truth Seeker

21/04/2013Ad, I saw David Marr on QandA, and I also found myself questioning the criteria upon which he based his assessments of The Abbott, as some of his conclusions seemed IMHO sycophantic. I enjoyed your piece,as usual, and the approach that you took. As I am sure you are aware, I also wrote a piece on this subject, prompted by a troll who made the same point, that "Abbott was the best and most successful LOTO ever", which prompted me to ask the question. The only conclusion to the question that I could come to was a resounding NO. http://truthseekersmusings.wordpress.com/2013/03/31/is-abbott-the-best-and-most-successful-loto-ever/ I will be interested to hear what the swordsters have to say, but with a couple of exceptions, I expect they will reach the same conclusion that I did :-) Cheers :-) :-)

Casablanca

21/04/2013Swordsters, It seems that PM Gillard has wedged LOTO on the Gonski Reforms and has set about to do the same to Premiers & Chief Ministers. I posted some links re Gonski in the dying hours of comments on AA's 'Rear-view mirror' article. I have re-caste them below. I think that the Gonski reforms will be a defining issue in the Prime Minister's favour. I am surprised that Abbott has slammed it so early in the electoral cycle. Of course, he may yet again blow with the wind and change his mind. [b]Abbott says no need for Gonski funding reforms[/b] Stephanie Peatling. April 21, 2013 - 3:19PM. Read more: www.smh.com.au/.../...-reforms-20130421-2i7wy.html [b]PM defies premiers on schools[/b] Judith Ireland. Breaking News Reporter. April 21, 2013. [quote]Prime Minister Julia Gillard will bypass the state premiers and write to the principal of every Australian school in a bid to get support for her school funding reforms. After Friday's Council of Australian Governments meeting ended without a state or territory agreeing to her funding package, Ms Gillard will explain to the school principals how the reforms will work. ''I would like principals to consider the funding proposal on its merits and the ways in which it will benefit the whole community,'' she told Fairfax Media. Ms Gillard will travel to Melbourne on Monday and Sydney on Tuesday to talk to parents and citizens groups about the plan, which would provide an extra $14.5 billion for schools over six years . With a June 30 deadline to get agreement on the reforms, Ms Gillard increased the pressure on premiers to agree to the plans in an address to the Victorian Labor Party conference on Saturday. She said four of the world's top five school systems were in the Asia-Pacific region and Australia's was not one of them. She said she had a message for the premiers and chief ministers: ''Do the right thing by Australia. Sign up for better schools.''[/quote] Read more: www.canberratimes.com.au/.../...0130420-2i72u.html [b]Beaten but not Gonski: the wait for leadership on schools continues.[/b] Maxine McKew. Vice-Chancellor's Fellow, University of Melbourne. 19 April 2013, 4.48pm AEST theconversation.com/beaten-but-not-gonski-the-wait-for-leadership-on-schools-continues-13615 [b]Gillard sees Gonski as election plus[/b] Farrah Tomazin. April 20, 2013. Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/gillard-sees-gonski-as-election-plus-20130420-2i6lk.html#ixzz2R6NwD8GO

Casablanca

22/04/2013AA The observation that [i]“Tony Abbott is the most successful Opposition leader of the last forty years.."[/i] certainly needed to be un-packed and you have done it beautifully. I hold David Marr in high regard, as a writer and polemicist, so I was taken aback to hear him speaking so rapturously about Abbott on Q&A last Monday. It's one thing for Marr to say (WTTE) that he is fascinated by people and characters, but to speak so uncritically of Abbott was perplexing to behold. Maybe Patriciawa is right in saying that Marr was just spruiking his book. There is an extract from the revised and updated edition of Political Animal at: ‘Political Animal: The Making of Tony Abbott’ by David Marr, Black Inc, 256pp; $19.95. Available in print and ebook. http://www.themonthly.com.au/making-tony-abbott-political-animal-david-marr-7881 I rather liked this trading of motherly wisdom in the comments following the extract referred to above. Phil Merrin susan prince • a month ago You assume that Abbott's a bully based on what you've read, remember the old adage [i]"believe only some of what you see and even less of what you hear"[/i] Mum told us that numerous times in our upbringing, it's been great advice, you should try it! Johnny B Gone Phil Merrin • 10 days ago If we're talking about Abbott then I've seen, heard and read more than I need to make up my mind about him. My Mum always asked us [i]"who is more foolish, the fool or the fool that follows?" [/i]

Curi-Oz

22/04/2013Being a 'successful leader of those opposed' is one thing. As Mr Abbott has surely demonstrated over the last three years that he is opposed to anything that this current ALP lead coalition has done. However, I would suggest that by being such a successful opposer, he has actually failed in his role as 'Leader of Her Australian Majesty's Loyal Opposition' because he has been more concerned with [i]HIS[/i] deserving of being the PM, rather than the first among many providing an alternate viewpoint to the government of the day, and assisting in the governance of the country for all of us, rich and poor alike. All the stunts he undertakes are about [i]him[/i], and on occasion he presents as incredibly naive/ignorant/cosseted (never quite sure which - viz the surprise about the hologram in Fox Studios last week). This compares poorly with PM Gillard, who love her or loathe her, is consitantly across everything that she has dealt with in the last five years. And has held her own against some pretty fierce ALP backstabbing of her own. I would rather not have the self-entitled tantrum-tossing attention-grabbing bullying "mommy's boy" leading this country.

Casablanca

22/04/2013[b]MORE ON GONSKI [/b] There are some excellent articles in response to the Gonski recommendations and funding at The Conversation. See list at: http://theconversation.com/topics/gonski-review

Casablanca

22/04/2013Gravel, I reported this annoying problem of blackness on TPS a couple of articles back (April 5 @ 06.06 PM - in Ad Astra's article on the Leigh Sales interview). I too was using Mozilla Firefox at the time. My operating system was 32 bit Windows 7 Ultimate. Miglo @ April 5. 2013 08:52 PM said, [quote]Casablanca, your problem is due to the page not fully loading on your computer. Do you have an old computer?[/quote] As you have indicated, the problem was not occurring on other sites. Also, I found that when I used Microsoft Explorer or Mozilla Chrome the problem on TPS disappeared. I'm not sure what Miglo meant by 'old' but in the end I decided to upgrade my computer in case an unidentified gremlin was the cause. I installed a new motherboard, CPU and Ram. I then did a clean install of Windows 7, Home Premium 64bit on a new hard disk. When I went to Mozilla for a download of Firefox I ended up with Mozilla Firefox Nightly - although it is a test program (designed also for Mobile Android 29MB, Android (ARMv6) 27MB,) it is working just fine. It is available in 34 and 64 bit versions. I have always sourced my hardware parts & software from the travelling Computer Fairs but this time I used the local MSY store where the prices are quite good. http://www.msy.com.au/. No more black matter on TPS! So in summary, first try a different browser and if that does not work upgrade your hardware and software. Hope that helps.

lyn

22/04/2013Todays Links Spinach or shit? by @Vic_Rollison there do seem to be quite a few people in Australia who are absolutely hell bent on rejecting the healthy spinach option, and haven’t even considered the side effects of eating shit instead. Let’s have a closer look at the alternatives in a few important http://victoriarollison.com/2013/04/20/spinach-or-shit/ Community Cabinet: Policy sounding without the press gallery fury, froth and bubble by @Kevin_Rennie The Community cabinet was sound rather than sensational. Julia Gillard certainly hasn’t given up and her focus was on what distinguishes her government from Abbott’s austere opposition: http://australiansforhonestpolitics.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/community-cabinet-policy-sounding-without-the-press-gallery-fury-froth-and-bubble/ How an Abbott government would affect you by @ch150ch The focus here is on issues that affectpeople on a day to day basis - money, health, education, internet http://www.scribd.com/doc/137149208/How-an-Abbott-government-would-affect-you Has the labour market become less efficient- by @MattCowgill Has the Fair Work Act made the labour market less efficient at matching unemployed people to jobs? One way economists would try to answer that question is with the Beveridge curve http://mattcowgill.wordpress.com/2013/04/21/has-the-labour-market-become-less-efficient/ Abbott says no need for Gonski funding reforms by @allnewsau Coalition leader Tony Abbott says the federal government’s proposed education changes are too expensive and unnecessary because there is no fundamental problem with the way schools are funded http://www.allnewsau.com/news/abbott-says-no-need-for-gonski-funding-reforms Oservers of Australian politics By Townville Blog I sense a new mood overtaking the Australian community as the Opposition Leader comes under closer scrutiny and Australian’s are not impressed with what they see. Prime Minister Gillard should be confident, http://townsvilleblog.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/oservers-of-australian-politics/ John Howard – Lying Lazarus by @Jarrapin John Howard’s latest lies about the Iraq War remind us of his deep dishonesty and give the Government a new avenue to attack the Opposition http://skepticslayer.wordpress.com/2013/04/21/john-howard-lying-lazarus/ Australian governments face a decade of budget deficits by @ConversationEDU Governments invariably find it hard to run a surplus, even in good times. The temptation to please voters and spend money is just too great. In Australia, voters have come to expect policies that leave no losers. http://theconversation.com/australian-governments-face-a-decade-of-budget-deficits-13616 The Dead Cat Revival by @davrosz The Murdoch media have launched a vicious vendetta against the Gillard Government since Kevin Rudd was toppled. Will the Fifth Estate be big enough and powerful enough to sway the election by September 14? http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/politics/the-dead-cat-revival/ The pollsters and the Pollies polling for Political and Pecuniary profit with particular-reference-to Newspoll BY @FairMediaAllian So let’s give the last word to Truth Seeker:‘So the question remains, if you don’t have a barge pole with which to shove Abbott over the line, will an opinion poll do the job?’ His article, Abbott? when there’s no barge pole, an opinion poll will do! http://fairmediaalliance.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/the-pollsters-and-the-pollies-polling-for-political-and-pecuniary-profit-with-particular-reference-to-newspoll/ Bonus payments for Newstart recipients and single parents by Bill Shorten It should not be overlooked that the Coalition voted against the Income Support Bonus and Household Assistance Package in February. http://ministers.deewr.gov.au/shorten/bonus-payments-newstart-recipients-and-single-parents#.UV9zN_eBPVc. Abbott warns against early appointments by Bigpond. News Quentin Bryce's current term finishes in March next year, but News Limited says senior coalition sources believe the government is sifting through a list of names for the vice-regal position. http://bigpondnews.com/articles/Politics/2013/04/21/Abbott_warns_against_early_appointments_865255.html Unbiased reporting as a reader function by @backupbear claims of bias have grown in many circles. In fact, in pretty much all circles, regardless of whether they’re extreme right, right, centre-right, centre, centre-left, left, or extreme left. http://unsane.info/unbiased-reporting-as-a-reader-function/ Today’s Front Page Australian Newspaper Front Pages for 22 April 2013 http://www.thepaperboy.com/australia/front-pages.cfm

cuppa

22/04/2013As Truth Seeker said David Marr was on the ABC program QandA recently. I didn't watch it, I can't stand Their ABC now in any form. I followed the course of the program by watching reactions to it on my Twitter feed. That's a more palatable way of getting the gist of programs such as this without having to sit through loathsome LNP/News Limited panelists and of course the snivelling Young "Liberal" (illiberal) gits that are always stacked heavily in the audience. The social media comments indicated that David Marr (the panelist put there for balance from "the left") had raved somewhat effusively about Abbott. Yuk. This set alarm bells ringing becuase Marr is the latest high-profile hiring by [i]The Guardian Au[/i]. What we don't need from The Guardian is more of the same Liberal patronising groupthink that we already get from the embedded media outlets. We want (and I believe people are expecting) something different, better. We need media that will criticise the Coalition without fear or favour, not fawn over thier stinking leaders, media that actually advocates on the side of what is good and decent in politics and policy. This goes to the problem of sourcing good, independent journalistic talent in Australia. It's a small pond and deeply polluted. It's like looking for nuggets of gold in a lake of turds - they may be there but no guarantees. The Guardian AU would be advised to take great caution even looking to poach supposedly independent talents from the ABC. As we've seen many reporters, editors and presenters at the ABC have moved from the centre to join the commercial media herd over in the right-wing corner, and they've done so without apparent complaint. Bunch of disappointing sell-outs they are, notwithstanding the limited employment opportunities for them and the perceived need to toe a Murdoch-approved line. So lean are the pickings for fearless independent talents in Australia, if I were The Guardian I would be looking for talent from outside the country. Germany, for example. Look at the list of newspapers there, over 50 per cent of them are centrist or liberal (small [i]l[/i] liberal in political alignment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_newspapers_in_Germany Even given the language problems and a likely unfamiliarity with Australian politics, the players, setting and history, it would still be a better bet getting Germans (for example) in to cover our politics than the sorry groupthinkers we've already got here keeping their seats warm and toes on the line.

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22/04/2013LYN'S DAILY LINKS updated: http://www.thepoliticalsword.com/page/LYNS-DAILY-LINKS.aspx

shunt

22/04/2013Wake up folks David is in love with the young priest Abbott and simply wants to be his daddy. David Marr in fact comes over quite creepy in Abbott essay. Marr is attracted to he-man males...and that's all their is to it. We ate simply reading in this essay a love poem. David is besotted.

Michael

22/04/2013Whatever Abbott might be right now, should he become PM he'll be "the most nation-wrecking Prime Minister ever". He's already announced that the Gonski educational reforms, and more importantly, the driving principles and statistical analysis within them, will be dropped - 'not needed, too expensive', it seems. Even the Fairfax editorial at the SMH rejects this: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/editorial/abbott-should-shortcircuit-the-nonsense-on-gonski-20130421-2i88s.html?skin=text-only for the destructive drivel it is. And then 'Shouldabeen should he become' has apparently decided to allow State Premiers to allocate GST revenues, to keep Colin Barnett and his Liberal heirs in Western Australia happy! Is Abbott so dumb that he doesn't know that WA is already in the bag for the Federal Coalition? He could tell Barnett to sit spinning on a stick without it affecting the Federal Coalition vote over there where the sun shines three hours after anywhere else in Australia. (Yes, I know about South Australia, but, FFS, why even bother with 30 minutes difference???) On a sidenote, Abbott is on record as saying that if the Premiers can work something out, he's "all ears" for their GST suggestion. No irony intended. On a further sidenote, Abbott's now making noises about the party room and a conscience vote being possible Coalition actions on gay marriage. Wasn't Sloppy Joe (I'm a Little Mushroom) Hockey pilloried by his fellow politicians and the Press, losing a leadership ballot as a result, for precisely this style of shilly-shallying sidestepping of leadership? (Short answer - Yes.) Abbott as PM will destroy this nation. If he makes that teeth-sucking swivelheaded glovepuppet John Howard Australia's Governor General, he may as well start nailing together the barricades on the same day. That's where he'll find the people of Australia, on the other side from him.

Tom of Melboune

22/04/2013[i]"What about the criteria of honesty and integrity?[/i]" What about Ad Astra try applying that criteria to Gillard?

Tom of Melboune

22/04/2013Shunt - [i]” Marr is attracted to he-man males...and that's all their (sic) is to it. We ate simply reading in this essay a love poem. David is besotted.[/i] Shunt is clearly unable to string a dozen words together without a spelling or grammar mistake, then tops this with homophobic innuendo. That’s pretty typical of many of the types that gravitate to TPS.

Richard P

22/04/2013A successful opposition leader is one who takes his or her party from opposition to government. As simple as that. Abbott looks like he will achieve that, come September. The rest of your criteria are irrelevant in the Westminster context. The party that commands a majority in the House of Representatives forms the government. If Abbott's coalition can do that, then he has been a successful opposition leader.

Bill

22/04/2013A short list of opposition leaders who have been more successful than Tony Abbott: Kevin Rudd John Howard Bob Hawke Malcolm Fraser Gough Whitlam Are you seeing a pattern here? Of all the above, John Howard would have to be the least successful having had two attempts at the job a decade apart and when he finally did achieve the ultimate success of an opposition leader, it was thanks mostly to the incumbent government collapsing under the weight of its own leader’s hubris. Abbott is running a similar strategy, offering nothing more than the ability to remain standing while the government run around like headless chooks on a political level and yet still manages to achieve things on a policy level.

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22/04/2013pdmr Welcome to [i]The Political Sword[/i] family, and thank you for your comment. Do come again. You make an interesting point about Malcolm Fraser in Opposition and in Government. shunt Welcome to you too. We hope you will come again. You comment that David Marr is besotted with Tony Abbott. He didn’t come across that way when he wrote his essay about Abbott’s early days and the Barbara Ramjan ‘wall punching’ episode. It is hard to fathom Marr’s perception of Abbott. Marr may fancy himself as a king maker/king destroyer. His essay on Rudd had a significant negative impact during Rudd’s declining days. Maybe he thinks this essay will have a similar impact on the electorate’s choice of the nation’s PM come September 14. By the way, if you haven't come across Tom of Melbourne before, you will find it best to overlook his comments.

DMW

22/04/2013TT, here's one for you to consider: [b]Male and female voters: will there be a 'gender gap' in 2013?[/b] from The Conversation by Haydon Manning, Associate Professor, Politics and Public Policy at Flinders University [i]A “gender dimension” now envelopes national politics unlike anything we have observed in the past. Julia Gillard’s popular but arguably unfair accusation that opposition leader Tony Abbott is a misogynist quickly became an international talking point last October. The question is: does it unconsciously reflect something deeper about how Australian men and women view the two major parties and their current leadership?[/i] http://theconversation.com/male-and-female-voters-will-there-be-a-gender-gap-in-2013-13183 ... and a 'thought' for all poll and anti-poll tragics to consider: [i]Of course, surveys alone cannot not render the “truth”. They merely act as a guide as to what might be going on in “voterland”. They are, in my view, a very a handy means for cross-checking against our own more anecdotal assessments and, importantly, for tracking change over longer time scales.[/i]

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22/04/2013Patriciawa It was reassuring to read your comments, and those of others here, that there is shared surprise about David Marr’s view that Tony Abbott is ‘the most successful Opposition leader’. Abbott has met a few criteria of success, but on most I view him as a failure as a leader of the alternative government, as the alternative prime minister. Of course ‘success’ depends on the criteria one selects, and where on the measurement scale one places Abbott. You see my assessment. We would value seeing Marr’s detailed assessment, criteria and all.

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22/04/2013Truth Seeker Thank you for your comment. I see we are in harmony about Tony Abbott. I enjoyed re-reading your assessment of Abbott’s ‘most successful leader’ mantle, a construct that the Coalition has fostered and the sycophantic MSM has perpetuated. Wouldn’t we all appreciate knowing the criteria they have used to judge this man? Casablana Thank you for your comment and for reposting the material you posted on the previous piece. It was too good to miss. I see that you too are surprised at Marr’s conclusion. Thank you for the link to the extract of Marr’s Quarterly Essay, and the comments that it attracted. Curi-Oz Thank you too for your comments. I agree with your statement that Tony Abbott has [i]”failed in his role as 'Leader of Her Australian Majesty's Loyal Opposition' because he has been more concerned with HIS deserving of being the PM, rather than the first among many providing an alternate viewpoint to the government of the day, and assisting in the governance of the country for all of us, rich and poor alike.”[/i]

Michael

22/04/2013Abbott and his disgraced (yeah, right) Director of Policy both have 'throat-slitting' in mind. The latter, well-greased, let the slippery cat out of the bag. If no-one else has noticed how schtum the likes of Cory Bernardi are keeping, well, shame on you. The edict is down, 'crow from the Government benches, until then, shut it!'. We know as much when Coalition politicians' Twitter accounts were silenced. Apparently Loughnane and the missus figured 'professional' staff in the Coalition wouldn't need the husbanding politicians do. Got that wrong, Ms Credlin. As to the silenced voices of their electorates (remember, you're elected to represent voters, not toe the line of party officials, politicians!) this mob want to creep into power and then triumphally tramp over the nation in the spurious pursuit of 'efficiency'. Education reform? Throat slit. Health reform? Throat slit. Indigenous education? Throat slit. Disability care? Throat slit. So many throats awaiting Tony and his troglodytes! Thing is, though, there'll be some out there who'll be counselling that Abbott's throat be slit right now, today!, or at the very least re-stuffed with those easy three word slogans. As soon as he talks about the Coalition in government lately he talks about nothing but reduction of services, returning to past practices, repudiation of future-embracing technology, rescinding of established payments and tax arrangements. This guy doesn't consider tomorrow, he thinks only of how to get back to yesterday, roll over and go to sleep. Tony Abbott the "most successful Opposition Leader ever"? Only the minimally minded, the least thinking of our commentators could conceive that the phrase is anything but mockery, of exactly the same kind as naming John Howard "Honest John". It was suggested above that importing German journalists might improve the standard of commentary and increase the capacity for insight among political commentators in Australia. It might, but why should we let the lazy buggers already collecting pay-cheques for the job get away with 'writing crap', all these Honours Students from the Joh Bjelke-Petersen School (sic) of Journalism? Do the bloody job both sides of the political contest, Hartcher, Kenny and Kenny, Grattan, Coorey, Taylor, Shanahan, Atkins, Savva, Akerman... and the list, Dante-descendingly, goes on. Just do your bloody job!

Gravel

22/04/2013Casablanca Thanks for all your suggestions, if the problem persists I will do something, but upgrading hardware out of my league at this stage, will fiddle with software. So far so good this morning, I have been able to read this good article and all the comments. Cuppa I was looking forward to The Guardian starting up, but with some of the people they have taken on so far I have to agree with you, it may be very disappointing for those of us that were looking forward to a truth in reporting style.

MWS

22/04/2013Michael, WA is only 2 hours behind the Eastern States now that daylight saving is over. In addition, Barnett is already backing down on his election promises (the election was in March). The longer that the Liberals are in power in WA, the more disillusioned the electorate will become. It hasn't helped that Barnett's urban rail promises were reliant on Federal Government funding - which he had little expectation of getting (whoever is in power Federally). The Liberals then had the gall to complain that there was a funding "hole" (according to the Liberal's costings, which were probably by the same people who determined that the NBN would cost nearly three times as much as budgeted) in the Labor urban rail promises. Apparently Labor hadn't considered plugging any funding hole with unsubstantiated Federal funding. I have no time for Barnett after he based his 2004 election campaign on the proposal to pipe water from the Kimberley to Perth. Disregarding the huge capital cost of all the pipes and reservoirs, it would use five times the pumping power to move water from the Kimberley to Perth than it would to pump seawater through a reverse osmosis membrane (and the capital cost of a RO plant is much less than a 3000km pipe network). It was a harebrained scheme with no economic value - and Barnett has an economics degree!

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22/04/2013Michael What a relief to read an editorial that calls Abbott and Pyne to account over Gonski. Is this beginning of the [b]‘Great Awakening that Abbott is a Disaster in Waiting’?[/b] cuppa You make interesting comments about David Marr’s joining of the Australian version of [i]The Guardian[/i]. It will be interesting to see what approach he takes when writing for that paper. I suspect that many journalists are tuning their writings according to whom they believe will be PM after September 14, and most are pumping for Abbott at present. Richard p Welcome to you too. Life must be easy for you when you need just one criterion of success as an opposition leader – taking an opposition into government. That is a raw reality, but for this Opposition Leader how he gets there, the damage he causes on the way, and the promise or threat to the nation he brings with him are of concern to voters, who will have their say on September 14. Hubris is dangerous. Do read Michael’s astute comment at 10.59 AM Bill Your comment is germane. Tony Abbott is hoping to do a ‘Steven Bradbury’. DMW Thanks for the informative link to the Haydon Manning article on the ‘gener gap. Great reading. Michael Spot on, from beginning to end. [i]”Tony Abbott the "most successful Opposition Leader ever"? Only the minimally minded, the least thinking of our commentators could conceive that the phrase is anything but mockery, of exactly the same kind as naming John Howard "Honest John".”[/i]

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22/04/2013Hi Lyn I started early on your links but have just finished, having in the meantime attended to the many thoughtful comments made on this last piece. Victoria Rollison’s piece is great reading. Spot on! The article by Matt Cowgill on the labour market and the Beveridge Curve was most interesting. I had not previously heard of the Curve, which graphs the Unemployment Rate against the Job Vacancy Rate. It shows that Fair Work Australia has not made the labour market less efficient, despite all we have heard from business and the Coalition. The piece on Abbott’s attitude to Gonski, along with Casablanca’s offerings, shows what will likely happen should Abbott become PM. Gonski would be killed, or put into cryogenic storage, or subject to endless deferral while another committee comes up with what Abbott and Pyne want. David Donovan’s [i]The Dead Cat Revival[/i] is frightening. Labor is up against powerful media forces, leading him to ask: [i]”Will the Fifth Estate be big enough and powerful enough to sway the election by September 14?”[/i] The piece on [i]unsane.info[/i] about the ‘Filter Bubble’ is worth noting for us all. It looks like a mechanism for fostering groupthink.

Bilko

22/04/2013AA The worth of a person is how they inspire the best from themselves and those around them, how they treat those worse off than themselves, how they react to the ups and downs of life and on those accounts alone Abbott is a total failure. Take Bernie Banton comment, loss of ministerial salary how can I afford my mortgage, banging a wall after loosing an election, calling the winner chairthing. As some one somewhere once commented to me any c*** can critise but to provide a solution to the situation that takes real imagination. Just saying no and we will scrap it does not make one a success. Hopefully the country realizes this by September or uncle Rupes could be our defaco PM and possible GG, I must go take my medication and lie down.

Pikiranku

22/04/2013Once again our favourite medico dissects a matter with surgical precision and meticulous accuracy! Brilliant, AA! I assume this post has been sent to David Marr and I look forward to hearing his response. Like others here my respect for David Marr has taken a hit lately, since he seems to have joined the herd. If the LNP succeeds in September you could attribute some of that success to Abbott, but he hasn't achieved that victory yet so any "successful" label is decidedly premature. (Particularly as, 6 months out from the election date, only 2 out of the last 7 election results were accurately predicted.) The polls overall are slowly trending upwards for Labor so it's unwise to draw any conclusions, despite what the journos continually tell us. I liked your additional questions, PatriciaWA, and I'd like to see David Marr respond to those as well. Here's another: What sort of success is a person who, from the position of a headstart, can't even get to form government in the first place? Tony Abbott didn't even get off first base! Great stride down the road to success, that was! Julia had his measure from the very start and still has. Abbott's made no headway against her at all when it comes to government, apart from trashing a few initiatives like the Malaysia solution and media reform. And, as you also pointed out PatriciaWA, if he didn't have the media cheer squad covering for him he'd be nowhere in the polls either. A large measure of an Opposition's success surely has to be its ability to modify or constructively contribute to the government's legislation. I think the LNP and Tony Abbott have failed dismally on this score and I believe they will pay for it. The NBN, for example, is a hugely popular government policy, a nation-changing infrastructure build that most electors can see we need for our future. It surely deserves bi-partisan support. Instead, the LNP has painted itself into a dead-end corner by slavishly adhering to its policy of negativity. A responsible and effective Opposition should be adult enough to recognise good policy and to support it. Abbott's Opposition does itself no favours by trashing policies which are not only good ones but also popular. Gonski and the NDIS as well as the NBN. Another question: is falsely trashing the nation's economy, attempting to create a self-fulfilling prophecy by reducing business and consumer confidence ... is that a partial success if you partially succeed? David Marr, it's far too early to describe Tony Abbott as successful. Perhaps you should just wait and see. I'm going to.

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22/04/2013Bilko How right you are when you say: “[i]The worth of a person is how they inspire the best from themselves and those around them, how they treat those worse off than themselves, how they react to the ups and downs of life and on those accounts alone Abbott is a total failure.”[/i] Pikiranku Thank you for your kind remarks and for your thoughtful analysis. You put several good propositions: “[i]What sort of success is a person who, from the position of a headstart, can't even get to form government in the first place?”[/i] ”[i]A large measure of an Opposition's success surely has to be its ability to modify or constructively contribute to the government's legislation. I think the LNP and Tony Abbott have failed dismally on this score and I believe they will pay for it…A responsible and effective Opposition should be adult enough to recognise good policy and to support it. Abbott's Opposition does itself no favours by trashing policies which are not only good ones but also popular. Gonski and the NDIS as well as the NBN. [/i] [i]Another question: is falsely trashing the nation's economy, attempting to create a self-fulfilling prophecy by reducing business and consumer confidence ... is that a partial success if you partially succeed? [/i] All are worth an answer from Marr and Abbott’s cheerleaders.

lyn

22/04/2013Hello Ad Astra, Thankyou for your bonzer article, you have an extraordinary capacity for work. The days go so quickly and I am sure you are squeezing every minute into your days. Ad my assessment of the pretender to prime ministership is definitely not for publication, actually neither is the criteria I am using. [quote]Is the repeated use of Question Time to berate the PM, her ministers and the Government a criterion of a good opposition?[/quote] No Abbott is disgusting . [quote] What about the criteria of honesty and integrity? Are these applicable to opposition leaders[/quote], to this Opposition Leader. They are applicable but Abbott is disgusting. Here is link to Mike Seccombe talking about David Marr and Abbott:_ [quote]Judging Abbott At Face Value (But Which One?) [/quote]by Mike Seccombe, September 8, 2012 every time the two Abbotts have come into conflict, it is Politics Abbott which has predominated, at least to date. [b]Who knows which Abbott might emerge, though, given the power of the Prime Ministership? [/b]What makes people so uneasy about Abbott is the sense that he is biding his time, that [quote]there is a very hard operator somewhere behind that mask, waiting for power."[/quote] http://www.theglobalmail.org/feature/judging-abbott-at-face-value-but-which-one/373/ Michael @ 8.56am and again @ 10.59am, Bravo Michael brilliant posts. Truth Seeker just checking to make sure you saw your tribute on Fair Media's blog this morning:) [quote]The pollsters and the Pollies polling for Political and Pecuniary profit with particular-reference-to Newspoll [/quote]BY @FairMediaAllian So let’s give the last word to Truth Seeker:‘So the question remains, if you don’t have a barge pole with which to shove Abbott over the line, will an opinion poll do the job?’ http://fairmediaalliance.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/the-pollsters-and-the-pollies-polling-for-political-and-pecuniary-profit-with-particular-reference-to-newspoll/

Pappinbarra Fox

22/04/2013Why would David Marr say LOTO was the most successful LOTO? Why? What was his reasoning? The only conclusion can be that the LNP is ahead in the polls, every other criterion ticks the fail box. If the only real criterion is that the LOTO becomes the PM then it is way too early to make that call, unless you use LOTO's criteria of being in the Lodger by Christmas 2010 - in whcih case fail I think Piranku's analysis is spot on (as is AAs incidently - I never give enough credit where it is due). The responsible and mature opposition? - that description does not apply to this opposition, under any person's definition, they have trashed the tone of political point scoring in this country and reduced the political discourse to purely point scoring - but I think the target is more missed than bullseyed by the LOTO.

Tom of Melboune

22/04/2013[i]” What sort of success is a person who…”[/i] • Knifes their leader? • Takes the leadership with the party ahead 52/48 and transforms that into 50/50? • Has the worst electoral performance of a first term government in living memory? • Demonises asylum seekers? • Leads a deeply divided party? • Has more talent on the back bench than in the ministry? • Has a record of lying to the electorate?

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22/04/2013Good afternoon Lyn Thank you for your complimentary remarks, and for the link to the Mike Seccombe article on David Marr’s [i]Quarterly Essay[/i]. You must have a fantastic filing system that enables you to retrieve such relevant articles. Abbott does has two faces, two at least. We see the ugly one, day after day, despite his best efforts to be nice-guy Tony. What we fear is the nasty, vicious, vengeful Abbott whom we know will wreak havoc not just on Labor should he win, but on the less well off, the disabled, the ill and the elderly, the kids lagging at school, and the technology he doesn’t understand, to wit the NBN, while heaping benefits on the well off, on big business and on the miners. He is an appalling prospect, yet most of the MSM are cheering for him flat out, while booing and hissing PM Gillard. It is disgusting; it is subversive. Pappinbarra Fox That is the question that we want answered: “[i]Why would David Marr say LOTO was the most successful LOTO? Why? What was his reasoning?[/i]”

Marilyn

22/04/2013When you read Kevin Rennie's report on the community cabinet exuding love for Gillard remember this. Only the most rusted on ALP members are allowed and they are vetted to within an inch of their lives. And your frigging hero Gillard is jailing babies and kids for life.

Gravel

22/04/2013There is no vetting of attendees at any Labor Government Community Cabinet event. It is open to everyone, first in best dressed.

Pikiranku

22/04/2013Cuppa, I share your disquiet about our prospects of getting worthwhile coverage from The Guardian's new Oz branch. When it was first announced I was really excited, full of hope that at last we'd get some uncensored news from the MSM and that they might even cause a flow-on to the local press. When the appointments of Katherine Murphy and Lenore Taylor were announced I was a little bit less optimistic but hoped that they would both lift their game in a different and freer working environment. I pinned some hopes on David Marr but now I'm not so sure about his objectivity and independence either. Hope I'm wrong.

Curi-Oz

22/04/2013I find that the idea that the LNP and their backers may have used incorrect assumptions about their drive for austerity for everyone (except themselves) a tad ... amusing? http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/04/grad-student-who-shook-global-austerity-movement.html If this thesis is correct, do you think we will see a change in the drive to reduce "government spending" to make everyones life more austere and there by 'moral'? *crickets*

Janet (jan@j4gypsy)

22/04/2013 Thank you Ad for your last post. I think Abott's efforts just today in releasing '#that billboard' might put the final lie to any suggestion by David Marr or anyone else that he is or has been a successful LOTO! As you will see below with this latest dip into the Twitterstream. (I know I put quite a bit up every now and again folks. Because it can only be every now and again, maybe dip in and out across a few days so it doesn't seem too intimidating? :-).) [b]Twitterati[/b] [i]Betty T @bettsie2u[/i] O My God. Abbott on #ABC24 re asylum seekers. Lets stop up the scare campaign you low weasel. How disgusting [i]Marian Rumens @mrumens[/i] I felt so ashamed of Australia under #JohnHoward and here is #TonyAbbott ready to make Australia look like redneck heaven. #auspol [i]Aussie Accent @GistPolitix[/i] .@RMTW8 No it is not illegal to CLAIM asylum. They may be assessed and found to be not a refugee - but that isn't ILLEGAL. So 0 illegal boat [i]julianburnside @JulianBurnside[/i] Idea: boat people-1mth det for initial health/security checks. Then they live in Tasmania during process. Pay Tas govt $1b pa. Lots cheaper [i]sortius @sortius[/i] .@mightyminey @chrismurphys what fetish? Murdoch openly admits he uses his media empire to influence election outcomes #auspol [i]Paul Bongiorno ‏@PaulBongiorno[/i] @Schnappi5 He calls his Paid Parental Leave tax, "a modest levy" If Labor did it, it would be terrible, toxic and an economy killer. [i]Angeline @angelineau[/i] #auspol LNP must be worried about tonight's #peoplesforum with Julia Gillard. They've had to spread rumours. [i]Peter Garrett AM MP ‏@PGarrettMP[/i] Libs want to change history curriculum? Pure smokescreen. Shame Pyne wasn’t at 2013 Simpson Prize to see the curriculum in action. [i]Jennifer ‏@conceravota[/i] Why not make Costello GG - then we'd really have an 'Abbott & Costello' farce for a government if ppl vote Lib #auspol #gggoolies [b]Twitterverse[/b] [i]Chris Johnson @seearjay[/i] Abbott called on 'illegal' slur http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/abbott-called-on-illegal-slur-20121121-29qa8.html … So he unveils a sign in Perth in defiance. [i]Stephen @TheAviator1992[/i] What the Coalition's billboard was meant to say! #auspol (via @tawnbpm) https://twitter.com/TheAviator1992/status/326194924246667264/photo/1 [i]Queen Noely of QLD @YaThinkN[/i] Better #Billboard No. 4 :)RT @parakev: So this is who we want as a PM? Sign says it all. #all_stunts #auspol https://twitter.com/parakev/status/326197562589736960/photo/1 [i]Wendy Bacon @Wendy_Bacon[/i] Activists in right place at right time expose #Abbott BIG LIE about #refugees. #auspol http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/tony-abbott-heckled-in-perth-about-illegal-arrivals/story-fnhocxo3-1226625996801… [i]Queen Noely of QLD @YaThinkN[/i] @parakev Worse, he can find the word in some obscure 'clause' he reckons ILLEGAL is all good, morality much? :( http://www.nationaltimes.com.au/opinion/political-news/abbott-sparks-ire-with-talk-of-illegals-20130422-2i9zq.html?rand=1366607752045… [i]Leanne Donaldson @BundyFlyGirl[/i] The true story on Asylum Seeker arrivals. Calm down everyone! https://twitter.com/BundyFlyGirl/status/326204169398661121/photo/1 [i]Geoff Pearson ‏@GCobber9916m[/i] Indonesia integral to our asylum seeker response http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4121912.html … [i]david ewart @davidbewart[/i] Howard for gg ? Sing along. The Mateship http://pocket.co/sazVM [i]Jennifer @conceravota[/i] This: http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/how-premier-campbell-newmans-media-managers-spin-the-issues/story-e6freoof-1226625425594… shows how PM's messaging gets stifled. Outrageous #auspol [i]Geoffrey Payne ‏@geoffrey_payne[/i] @Imagine4756 @YaThinkN @parakev Interesting take here on polls http://fairmediaalliance.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/the-pollsters-and-the-pollies-polling-for-political-and-pecuniary-profit-with-particular-reference-to-newspoll/ … [i]Stephen Feneley ‏@feneleyandco[/i] So why isn't the media jumping all over @TonyAbbottMHR for breaking his surplus promise? http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/04/22/lets-get-fiscal-politicians-wake-up-from-surplus-delusion/ … [i]Sandy @ThumpersAunt[/i] Families will be 'worse off' under Coalition, Federal Government figures reveal | Herald Sun: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/families-will-be-worse-off-under-coalition-federal-government-figures-reveal/story-e6frf7kx-1226625439968?sv=537ac4c2f39d13621e69af70cb397367#.UXSg-Bt4PvQ.twitter… via @TheHeraldSun [i]Nadine Flood ‏@NadineFloodCPSU[/i] @tonyabbottMHR still claiming there are 20,000 more public servants than 5 yrs ago. He’s wrong- see http://bit.ly/11voGjb . [i]IBill Shorten @billshortenmp[/i] Abbott to hit retail workers' super #SuperFuture http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/abbott-to-hit-retail-workers-super-20130422-2i90p.html … [i]HannahQuinn @NannaHannah[/i] Could and should >> Higher taxes could fund a better Australia http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/higher-taxes-could-fund-a-better-australia-20130421-2i88p.html… [i]Crikey.com.au @crikey_news[/i] For a long time our pollies were locked into a “deficit: bad” mentality. They're being dragged into the real world: http://bit.ly/11dA9mM [i]IndependentAustralia @independentaus[/i] Heat on deniers as PAGES confirms hockey stick (via @skepticscience) http://fb.me/yTI3Jrm1 [i]ABC Radio @amworldtodaypm[/i] AMA welcomes govt investigation into alleged medicare rorts, questions profits over patients assertion http://bit.ly/17cVGQB #health [i]Coggo @akaCoggo[/i] Did you know Victoria's paramedics are locked in an industrial campaign against the Napthine government? The... http://fb.me/1o7oORdfT  [i]HannahQuinn @NannaHannah[/i] Totalitarian much? >>Newman Government plans to ban political slogans from public servants' desks | The Courier-Mail http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/newman-government-plans-to-ban-political-slogans-from-public-servants-desks/story-e6freoof-1226625414850 … [i]David Marler @Qldaah[/i] @fakebleijie @730qld: Asset sales by stealth: Newman justifies 7 building sales as 'transfers': http://ht.ly/khzr9  [i]CPSU@CPSUnion[/i] Off the back of Grattan Institute report debate needs to be around budgets, taxation and public services, says CPSU http://www.cpsu.org.au/news/31047.html Possum Comitatus ‏@Pollytics On Pollytics: What do you do with a sophisticated database & 35,000 campaigners? Anatomy of a Modern Campaign http://bit.ly/10sO0uA  

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22/04/2013Curi-Oz What a fantastic paper you’ve linked us to. To think that the theory of cutting expenditure in times of debt to stimulate growth, something pro-austerity economists have used to shore up their insistence on austerity, is based on a flawed study that contained the simplest of errors in an Excel spreadsheet, discovered by a graduate student in economics. Amazing. So that theory is torpedoed. I hope Joe Hockey reads your link, and realizes that Wayne Swan was right all along in supporting jobs and growth rather than slashing expenditure. No doubt Hockey will ignore this scuttling of the study on which much of his approach depends. Anyone interested in economics, and politics, should read: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/04/grad-student-who-shook-global-austerity-movement.html

jane

22/04/2013[quote]......and Barnett has an economics degree![/quote] So does Lielaot, MWS. I rest my case m'lud. We can only assume that they both found their degrees in a Cornflakes packet.

Curi-Oz

22/04/2013Ad Astra, If you would like to read the actual paper (and I'm sure some here would) it is available online from U.M.A. as an Open Access PDF download. Mr Herndon has also included the datasets and other relevant links on this page. (http://www.peri.umass.edu/236/hash/31e2ff374b6377b2ddec04deaa6388b1/publication/566/) I don't understand economics (not a B.Ec. like some) but it seems quite careful in outlining where they differ and I am getting an understanding of why this paper is important. *fascinating*

Tom of Melbourne

22/04/2013I love the way we’re supposed to accept the expertise of qualified climate scientists, but we’re all entitled to disparage the expertise of qualified economists. So many stupid people here.

jaycee

22/04/2013I've found, in my trade there are good tradesmen and very bad ones. What differentiates the good ones from the bad is the continuety of work through word of mouth..after all, we all know that; "every dissatisfied customer has a mouth and ten friends". The bad or fraudulant tradies sell themselves on cheapness, quick-fix, glib-sales pitch. (sound familiar?)....Those more cunning have a gimmick that they bring to their work that can distract the customer from the depth of quality...one such tradie I met described his "technique"...when the customer was watching, he would complete the job at hand..say: hanging a door, by taking up his hand smoothing-plane and theatrically run a chamfer along the edge of the door....and that was it!..a bit of show and he swore they thought he was a cut above the rest and they were getting something extra for their money. Abbott is not opposition...he is a one-trick-pony...he is the clown holding the firey hoop through which he has the media clowns, incl' Marr, rolling through..they love it! "A chamfer...that's all I'd do..on everything..they loved it!"

KHTAGH

22/04/2013Ad Astra Another well dissected point of view, although the thought of the words Abbott & success being anywhere near each other does make for nightmares. One does have to see his success at being the biggest bullies of an opposition leader in history. I wonder how successful he would be perceived if it were not for his puppet master Murdoch. I too felt my opinion of David Marr slide significantly too. Casablanca To your point of Abbott's wedgie (oh what a thought) I do think that a lot of things are going to plan as far as the PM is concerned, the term "do him slowly" comes to mind, all part of the early call strategy. Give people time to truly absorb her policies well before the election knowing she has a hostile press against her. Forcing Abbott to reply, like any big fish you have to play it for a long time to land it.

Janet (jan@j4gypsy)

22/04/2013This: :-) http://i.imgur.com/DQnuviv.gif (Am presuming you have seen the original #billboard)

Ad astra

22/04/2013Janet I’ve just looked through your amazing collection of Twitter talk. What interesting reading they make. Thank you. Jaycee Abbott is indeed a one trick pony. When will the people see his very limited range of tricks? KHTAGH Thank you for your comment. I agree that Abbott has earned the ‘biggest bully’ label.

Ad astra

22/04/2013Curi-Oz Thanks for the link - I've bookmarked the paper.

Sir Ian Crisp

22/04/2013[quote][b]Abbott as PM will destroy this nation. If he makes that teeth-sucking swivelheaded glovepuppet John Howard Australia's Governor General, he may as well start nailing together the barricades on the same day. That's where he'll find the people of Australia, on the other side from him. Michael [/b][/quote] Oh ye of little faith. Relax, Abbott is gone according to OF. [quote][b]Lets hope Abbott stays leader but I think it won't be the case. It would be interesting to see how Labor would respond. That's why Labor stratagyists should start thinking about this. orangefox [/b][/quote] Even though Ad Astra insists on posters using FACTS he allowed orangefox to ignore that rule because Ad Astra only applies the rule when it suits.

Tom of Melbourne

22/04/2013[i]” I too felt my opinion of David Marr slide significantly too.”[/i] People here don’t like it when their own side provide legitimate political analysis.

lawriejay

22/04/2013"I love the way we’re supposed to accept the expertise of qualified climate scientists, but we’re all entitled to disparage the expertise of qualified economists. So many stupid people here. Tom of Melbourne" And which qualified economists should we accept the expertise of Tommy ?? They can't even agree on what the Reserve Board decision on interest rates will be each and every months.

Ken

22/04/2013KHTAGH Agree with your view that this is very likely a well-constructed strategy by the PM and her advisors. It reminds me of some work Possum did a few years back which was based on surveys of how the electorate perceived issues. Economics and border security were seen as strengths of the LNP and issues like health and education as strengths of Labor. The interesting point, however, was that if Labor talked about economics and border security it actually boosted the perception that the LNP was stronger in these areas, and, similarly if the LNP talked about education and health it actually boosted Labor. So, my guess is that the PM is trying to bury the boat people and border security issue by adopting something close to the LNP policy, and (as evidenced by ecomonic comments by the LNP today) creating a situation where both the Government and the LNP have to accept a deteriorating Budget position. That leaves Labor strengths as the real battleground and Gonski is part of that. If the surveys which Possum used are correct, the LNP can't really engage in the education debate without boosting Labor. The NBN would also now appear to be another winner that will boost Labor no matter who talks about it. The game is not over yet, despite what the MSM likes to say.

Jason

22/04/2013Even though Ad Astra insists on posters using FACTS he allowed orangefox to ignore that rule because Ad Astra only applies the rule when it suits. His blog his rules! or do you think something else should happen?

nasking

22/04/2013 [b]I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW THE PM EXPECTS TO GET THE MESSAGE OF NEW MEDIA ACROSS WHEN STANDING IN FRONT OF A BACKDROP THAT READS 'HERALD SUN' A MILLION TIMES. [/b] FFS! [b]DON'T RUPERT MURDOCH'S PAPERS GET ENUFF PLUGS ON THE ABC [/b]AND EVERY OTHER BLOODY PLACE? [b]PEOPLE'S FORUM MY ARSE...MURDOCH FORUM MORE LIKE IT. [/b] AND [b]COULD THE HERALD SUN BE ANY LESS SUBTLE? [/b] TALK ABOUT THE MURDOCHRACY! I UNDERSTAND THE PM OF AUSTRALIA WANTS TO GET HER POSITIVE MESSAGE ACROSS TO THE MURDOCH PAPER READERS AND SKY NEWS AUDIENCES...AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND VISIONARY POLICIES TO SPRUIK... BUT [b]YOU'D THINK PM GILLARD WOULD HAVE ENUFF POWER AND COMMON-SENSE NOT TO LOOK LIKE SHE'S PART OF A HERALD SUN BILLBOARD. WILL SHE DO THE SAME FOR CRIKEY? INDEPENDENT AUSTRALIA? NEW MATILDA?[/b] THE PM HAS MADE SOME USEFUL POINTS - I DUG THE NBN ASSISTING WOMAN WITH RASH IN BUSH EXAMPLE...THO ASSISTANCE TO SMALL BUSINESS GROWTH AND DVLPT COULDA BEEN MENTIONED TOO... BUT [b]IT GIVES ME THE PROVERBIAL SHITS WHEN WE SEE PRIME MINISTERS AND OPPOSITION LEADERS LICKING THE TALONS OF THIS EGO-MANIAC MEDIA BARON MURDOCH AND HIS SLIMEY, WAR-MONGERING, USEFUL REFORM BASHING, INSATIABLY HUNGRY AND SOCIALLY CANCEROUS MEDIA EMPIRE. THE FIFTH ESTATE AND THE MORE DECENT FOLK IN THE FOURTH ESTATE PUT IN FAR TOO MUCH VOLUNTARY AND LOW WAGE EFFORT TO HAVE THE PM OF OUR COUNTRY FAVOUR THE MOST PRIVILEGED MEDIA EMPIRE THE WAY SHE DID TODAY..[/b]. AND LOOK LIKE A PAPER GIRL FOR THE HERALD SUN. [b]NOT ON![/b] N'

Tom of Melbourne

22/04/2013[i]” His blog his rules![/i] Who’d like to apply that rule to newspapers?

nasking

22/04/2013 I MIGHT ADD...THE PM DID WIN OVER A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF PARTICIPANTS IN THIS FORUM...I THOUGHT HER APPROACH IN THE SECOND HALF GENERALLY CONVINCING, AMIABLE AND DEMONSTRATED USEFUL EMPATHY. HOWEVER, I CAN'T HELP FEELING THE PM IS DANCING WITH THE DEVIL... AND RECALL PM RUDD BEING NAMED 'AUSSIE OF THE YEAR' BY THE AUSTRALIAN... ONLY TO BE CRAPPED ON FROM A GREAT HEIGHT AND FROM THE GUTTER BY THE MURDOCH MINIONS FROM THAT POINT ON...UNTIL HIS POLLS DIVED...AND THE ALP'S CONFIDENCE IN HIM COLLAPSED. THE PM GOT OFF LIGHTLY TONITE...BUT THAT'S THE WAY OF THE MURDOCH EMPIRE... LURE LEADERS IN...SEE IF THEY WILL ROLE OVER MULTIPLE TIMES...IF NOT...STOMP ON THEM BIG TIME. I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK THE BIG BOOTS ARE BEING MANUFACTURED AS WE SPEAK...AND THE HEAD KICKING OF A LABOR PM WILL RESUME SOON. IF NOT...THEN I CAN'T HELP BUT WONDER WHAT OUR PM HAS OFFERED THE BEAST IN ORDER TO KEEP IT TAMED...FOR THE TIME BEING. N'

nasking

22/04/2013 AS FOR EDUCATION REFORMS AND FUNDING...I SAY GO EDUCATION...NOT WAR. ABBOTT WANTS TO DUMP EDUCATION FUNDING SO HE CAN FUND HIS CRUSADE... YOU ONLY HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ABBOTT/PYNE OBSESSION WITH ANZAC DAY IN THE HISTORY SYLLABUS TO KNOW THESE FELLAS WANT TO CONTINUE THE EXPENSIVE WAR ON ISLAM... LIKE SOME CRAZED CHRISTIAN CRUSADERS...FEIGNING RESPECT FOR ZIONISM WHEN IT'S REALLY ALL ABOUT CREATING ANOTHER CHRISTIAN EMPIRE... BUT THEIR CORPORATE AND DYNASTIC MASTERS WILL ENSURE IT IS ONLY "HOLY" IN THE SENSE THE PEOPLE PRAY TO THE GODS OF CONSUMERISM AND CHEAP LABOUR. N'

Sir Ian Crisp

22/04/2013[quote][b]Abbott as PM will destroy this nation. If he makes that teeth-sucking swivelheaded glovepuppet John Howard Australia's Governor General, he may as well start nailing together the barricades on the same day. That's where he'll find the people of Australia, on the other side from him. Michael [/b][/quote] Relax Michael...put your feet up...have some dip. Ad Astra, without any supporting FACTS, has called the result of the September 2013 election. It's the ALP in a landslide. [quote][b]Gravel, 2353 You’re right. What will the Coalition’s media sycophants say when their team loses in September? They will be lost souls. Ad astra [/b][/quote]

nasking

22/04/2013 ANOTHER SUPERB POST AD. SEEMS TO ME DAVID MARR HAS A BIT OF A (MEDIA) CRUSH ON TONY ABBOTT. PERHAPS HE KNOWS MORE ABOUT ABBOTT AND HIS JESUIT CLOSET THAN WE DO. IT WOULDN'T SURPRISE ME IF ABBOTT DID FLIP FLOP AND GIVE HIS LNP LOT THE RIGHT TO A [b]'CONSCIENCE VOTE' ON SAME-SEX MARRIAGE[/b]. [b]THE MAN IS A JUMBLE SALE OF PRINCIPLES. OCCASIONALLY HE DOES THE RIGHT THING. BUT IN THE LONG RUN HE'S JUST ANOTHER OPPORTUNIST... WORRYINGLY, WITH A FANATICAL CRUSADING BIGOTED WARRIOR RAGING JUST BELOW THE SURFACE THAT DANGEROUSLY EMERGES WHEN HE DOESN'T GET HIS WAY...RANTING AND BULLYING DISTORTING HIS FACE AND PERSONALITY GIVING HIM THE AURA OF A DEMENTED PRIEST IN THE MIDDLE AGES OR SUCH.[/b] MARR IS A HIGHLY INTELLIGENT, OFT AMUSING, WITTY AND ARTICULATE COMMENTATOR AND WRITER...BUT HIS "[b]FASCINATION[/b]" WITH ABBOTT UNFORTUNATELY LEADS HIM TO PROMOTE A MAN WHO HAS THE POTENTIAL TO SCREW THIS COUNTRY UP BIG TIME...AND DO [b]LONG-LASTING DAMAGE TO THE FABRIC OF SOCIETY[/b]. AND [b]MARR MAY INDEED REGRET EVER GIVING ABBOTT BREATHING SPACE[/b]...WHILST HAVING HELPED CHOKE THE LIFE OUT OF RUDD AND GILLARD...AND THE PRESENT ALP. N'

Janet (jan@j4gypsy)

22/04/2013From http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national/pm-explains-her-same-sex-marriage-views/story-e6frfku9-1226626172282 [b]PM wins over voters at polite pub forum[/b] [i]by: By Melissa Jenkins[/i] From: AAP April 22, 2013 8:33PM PRIME Minister Julia Gillard has faced the people at a suburban Melbourne forum, more akin to a polite dinner party than a fiery debate. Around 100 undecided voters filed into the Burvale Hotel, a Nunawading pub complete with pool tables and an $11 'Parma & Pot Deal' every Wednesday. The pub is in the nation's second most marginal seat of Deakin. Marriage equality, education funding and superannuation featured prominently, but Ms Gillard was not heckled and voices weren't raised. The prime minister believes marriage is between a man and a woman and last year voted against proposed changes to the marriage act in federal parliament that would have supported same-sex marriage. "My view's pretty well known and I'm not seeking to impose my view on anybody," she said. Federal parliament's response to a bill to change the marriage act was to vote it down 98-42, despite heavy lobbying by gay groups and some MPs. Labor MPs were allowed a conscience vote on the issue, while Liberal MPs followed the party line and the majority opposed it outright. Ms Gillard said for a future bill to pass, all MPs need to be allowed a conscience vote. "So I hope the other side of politics gets there," she said. University students questioned why the federal government had slashed higher education funding by $2.3 billion to bankroll the Gonski school education reforms. "You are robbing Peter to pay Paul," student Kevin said. Another student Michael said rather than cutting university funding to pay for the Gonski reforms the government should end the costly mandatory detention of asylum seekers. "How does cutting education to fund education promote a smarter Australia?" he said. "How does locking up desperate people who have committed no crimes for an indeterminate amount of time promote a fairer Australia?" Ms Gillard said the government had boosted university funding by 50 per cent since winning office. "Funding will still go up, it just won't go up as sharply," she said. "I want more kids to go to university, I want more kids to have apprenticeships." She said the government had not been able to fully implement its asylum-seeker policy due to parliamentary gridlock. After the forum, Kellie Gardner, of Fairfield, said she was persuaded to vote Labor at the September election. "I thought she answered the questions well - she seems very approachable," she said. "I don't like (Opposition Leader) Tony Abbott; I don't find him appealing." Debbie, from Northcote, said she was impressed with Ms Gillard's performance. "She was honest," she said. During the forum, the prime minister pledged to investigate the issue of superannuation for foster carers.

DMW

22/04/2013[i]“Tony Abbott is the most successful Opposition leader of the last forty years ...[/i] Ad questions what [i]measuring stick/s [/i] may have been used to assess the assertion and offers us a number of reasons that he believes refute any claim that Abbott is the most successful. Bill @ April 22. 2013 10:18 AM offers us: [i]A short list of opposition leaders who have been more successful than Tony Abbott: Kevin Rudd John Howard Bob Hawke Malcolm Fraser Gough Whitlam[/i] I presume that these people are chosen because, as Opposition Leader they led their party to 'victory' and went on to become Prime Minister. On a technicality I would exclude Malcolm Fraser from this list as he didn't win an election as opposition leader. Fraser went into the 1975 election as Prime Minister albeit in [i]caretaker [/i] mode. On a different technicality Bob Hawke should also be excluded as he was never Opposition Leader 'on the floor of the house' and, although conjecture, he led his party into the election as Prime Minister in waiting. Given that Marr's essay was published in September 2012 and the publicity blurb that Ad refers to was written about three months before that Gough Whitlam just squeaks in as an opposition leader of the last forty years but it does raise a question of whether Whitlam's time prior to 1972 should be used to measure his successs. As Gough is borderline 40 years I'll give him a TKO. That leaves us with only Rudd and Howard as opposition leaders that won elections in the last 40 years to measure against. Abbott has been opposition leader longer than Gillard has been PM longer than any other opposition leader in the last forty years except for Hewson (Apr-90 to May-94) and Howard (Sep-85 to May-89). Abbott's time in office knocks Rudd out of the race as he was opposition leader for about 12 months and beside that he always considered himself as 'Prime Minister in Waiting' rather than opposition leader. We are now left with a very tough call choosing between Abbott and Howard as the better and therefore the most successful opposition leader in the last forty years.

nasking

22/04/2013 TANYA PLIBERSEK IMPRESSIVE ON Q&A...CALMLY AND EFFECTIVELY DEALT WITH THE PRIVATE HEALTHCARE REBATE AND MEDICAL STUDENT ISSUES. I'D LIKE TO MORE EXPLANATION OF THE ROLE OF 'MEDICARE LOCALS' BY THE GOVT. CONSIDERING AD ASTRA'S EXPERTISE ON THE HEALTHCARE ISSUE I LOOK FORWARD TO HIS ASSESSMENT OF THE Q&A PERFORMANCES BY PLIBERSEK AND DUTTON. ANYONE ELSE FIND IT IRRITATING WHEN A PANELIST IS GIVING A USEFUL, DETAILED AND SINCERE ANSWER TO AN IMPORTANT QUESTION THAT BENEFITS THE PUBLIC ONLY TO BE UNDERMINED BY A DUMB OR BADLY-TIMED TWEET ON THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN? N'

jane

23/04/2013Janet, loved the link. [quote]THE MAN IS A JUMBLE SALE OF PRINCIPLES.[/quote] LOVE IT, NAS' AND IT IS SO TRUE. GREAT TO SEE YOU BACK AND COMMENTING.

nasking

23/04/2013 CHEERS JANE, I TELL IT AS I SEES IT. :D ALWAYS DIG YER COMMENTS...AS YOU KNOW. N'

TalkTurkey

23/04/2013Ad astra Thank you for another dose of original wisdom and insightful analysis the like of which I don't see much anywhere else. But Ad you have known from the first that I am as critical as anyone in the Wide Brown Land of the poor fish who pass for journalists in this country, with few exceptions, and Marr is not really one. Many are absolutely bigoted rusted-on Right-Wingers, while hardly a one is [i]consistent[/i] in a firmly Leftish position, no not Megalogenis, nor either LT, though many would say they were about the closest. I think they're all pretty pale and wobbly, though Tingle has some gravitas; if I had to nominate someone I thought most consistent, I think I'd have to say Bongiorno! (and he sure ain't no Red!) Mark Latham is consistently Leftish, and Leftishly pretty consistent too, but he's also consistently getting reviled and sidelined. I like to see him make his presence felt though. [i]Keating, thou shouldst be tweeting in this time![/i] But amongst the circle-jerking that keeps most of the MSM relaxed and comfortable with themselves flits this David Marr: and where and whom he pauses to suck next nobody knoweth. He is whimsical, but not entirely naive. He keeps people guessing, but over time that amounts to a row of pretty cheap shots imo. In his appearance on ABC a few days ago he appeared coy, arch, cute, like a cat smarming up against whoever-it-was that mentioned his new book. Marr is never as outrageous against the Government as most of his ilk, he's no friend of the Right, but I do find him quite capricious and a bit sly, sometimes brilliant and sometimes even making strong sensible points, even occasionally giving a ridiculing slap to the likes of aKKKerman. That part of him I like, but it's not enough... Exactly because he is quite likely to say the exact sort of thing you have focused on here, Ad. He's sort of ... [i]silly.[/i] Quite unreliable, if not downright treacherous, as in the phrase you quote, "most successful Opposition Leader of the last forty years". But I want to 'unpack' the meaning of that a bit differently. Hannibal of Carthage was the most successful challenger to the power of Rome. He almost made it to Rome before being wiped out. Hitler was the most successful wannabe world dictator in history. He almost had it in his grasp ... And Antonius Abborrrrticus is the most successful Leader of the Opposition in Australian World History! Funny in'it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Patricia the questions in your post are poignant, over the next few months such q's will be asked of Abborrrrtt over and over and he will crumble. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In the Canberra G~G Derby One name stands ten feet tall: JUSTICE MICHAEL KIRBY The Fairest Of Us All.

lyn

23/04/2013Today’s Links Anatomy of a Modern Campaign by @Pollytics One of the biggest jokes politics plays on itself is “secrecy” – secret internal polling that apparently makes public polling wrong, secret campaign tactics that relegate Sun Tzu to the status of mere amateur http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollytics/2013/04/22/anatomy-of-a-modern-campaign/ Morgan Poll shows LNP lead down for third consecutive week by @independentaus This multi-mode Morgan Poll on Federal voting intention was conducted over the last few days, April 18-21, 2013, with an Australia-wide cross-section of 3,270 Australian electors aged 18+. http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/politics/morgan-poll-shows-lnp-lead-down-for-third-consecutive-week/ When will Political Parties Learn to Twitter? by @AusVotes2013 It’s that coordinating a bunch of MPs to do this shows a total lack of understanding of Twitter’s form and function. As you’ll see in the image, those tweets weren’t sent at the same time, http://ausvotes2013.com/2013/04/22/when-will-polititical-parties-learn-to-twitter/ Winning the psychological game by Gordon’s Thoughts What the ALP need to do instead of thinking in terms of merely “winning the next election,” is focus on destroying the Coalition’s ideology forever. That sort of mindset has a few implications. For a start it means thinking on a huge scale and http://gordonsthoughts.wordpress.com/2013/04/22/winning-the-psychological-game/ Let’s get fiscal: politicians wake up from surplus delusion by @BernardKeane Joe will keep pretending that it’s all Labor’s fault, but his and his leader’s retreat from the surplus commitment are a dead giveaway that he knows he’s no longer living inside a dream. http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/04/22/lets-get-fiscal-politicians-wake-up-from-surplus-delusion/?wpmp_switcher=mobile Australian Opposition Shadow Treasurer Joe Hockey and national unemployment rates by @no_filter_Yamba Here Hockey was shamelessly taking credit for a low national unemployment rate of 4.1 per cent (not the 4 per cent he quoted) which occurred during the term of the Rudd Labor Government. http://northcoastvoices.blogspot.com.au/ Abbott on collision course with Jakarta by Sky News 'This kind of opinion disrespects the talks we have already had which have been very productive. With wrong perception, even Indonesia could pull out from these cooperative agreements regarding people smuggling,' Mahfudz told AAP. http://www.skynews.com.au/topstories/article.aspx?id=865733&vId= Taking care of the caretaker conventions by @ConversationEDU The Parliament is still intended to sit in May and June and it is not likely to be dissolved until August 2013. Hence, the Gillard governent remains entitled to make senior appointments http://theconversation.com/taking-care-of-the-caretaker-conventions-13640 The great deficit embrace by @macro_business I am prepared to bet that the dollar will adjust but growth will still be poor and the incoming Coalition government will lose the AAA rating in its first two years of office. Prepare accordingly, banks. http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2013/04/the-great-deficit-embrace-3/ Swan says stay calm on Euro carbon price by @EcoNewsDaily He said the carbon price in Europe had been higher in the past and economic conditions could improve. “In the future we could see higher prices,” Mr Swan said. http://econews.com.au/news-to-sustain-our-world/swan-says-stay-calm-on-euro-carbon-price/ Jobs for the boys by @terrimbutler “News Limited does not suggest that any of the appointments were made without merit,” but the implication is that each person got their job because of their association (however tenuous some of them are) with Labor. http://terrimbutler.wordpress.com/2013/04/22/jobs-for-the-boys/ The Culture Wars are back by @crazyjane13 Shadow Education spokesperson Christopher Pyne fired the latest salvo in our Federal-Election-campaign-that-isn’t, today. His target was the National Curriculum http://consciencevote.com.au/2013/04/22/the-culture-wars-are-back/ Half fact, half fiction by @btckr federal Opposition has long regarded the government as illegitimate because the Prime Minister was changed by a Right-wing coup within the Labor party, followed by a tie in a federal election, followed by a hung parliament http://thesnipertakesaim.wordpress.com/2013/04/22/half-fact-half-fiction/ Educational Reform by Gary Sauer-Thompson The Gillard Government's $2 for $1 school funding deal for the states and territories was rejected because the non-mining states lack the significant fiscal revenue to contribute significant additional funding of their own and it also meant the states losing a http://www.sauer-thompson.com/archives/opinion/2013/04/educational-ref-1.php#more Rupert Murdoch’s New York Post, The morality of Free Markets and the Immorality of Markets that are not Free by @FairMediaAllian what Mr Murdoch means when he talks about freedom and morality, we need look no further than his sleazy tabloid http://fairmediaalliance.wordpress.com/2013/04/22/rupert-murdochs-new-york-post-the-morality-of-free-markets-and-the-immorality-of-markets-that-are-not-free/ The IMF: Free trade for all, Wealh for some by @newsfliporg We need to take a really long, hard look at whether we should trust the economists who preference growth over everything else. They are predisposed to growth – to them it is what makes the world work http://www.newsflip.org/ European ETS by @LarvatusProdeo Last week when the European Parliament voted down a proposal to prop up the EU Emissions Trading System’s languishing carbon price by postponing the sale of 900 million emission allowances until the back-end of this decade the price fell to below AU$4. http://larvatusprodeo.net/archives/2013/04/european-ets/ Will self interest close biggest, cheapest, cleanest power station- by @GilesParkinson in Victoria, an energy efficiency scheme that delivered more than $250 million in savings to households and small businesses in 2012 – and could save billions more in years to come – may come under threat http://reneweconomy.com.au/2013/will-self-interest-close-biggest-cheapest-cleanest-power-station-55846 Today’s Front Pages Australian Newspaper Front Pages for 23 April 2013 http://www.thepaperboy.com/australia/front-pages.cfm

Ad astra

23/04/2013LYN'S DAILY LINKS updated: http://www.thepoliticalsword.com/page/LYNS-DAILY-LINKS.aspx

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23/04/2013Lawriejay said [quote]And which qualified economists should we accept the expertise of Tommy ?? They can't even agree on what the Reserve Board decision on interest rates will be each and every months. [/quote] An economics lecturer I had once suggested that economists will tell you that economics is a science and if you put 100 economists in a room, give them a problem they will come back to you with a reasoned and believable argument as to exactly what will happen. And when it doesn't happen (he went on to say), the same people will give you 150 good reasons why it didn't. The lecturer then went on to say that the "science" of economics is not settled, always right or even accurate as Lawriejay correctly suggested above. Swan certainly seems to be reading better economics texts (or taking better advice) that the majority of National Treasurers - Australia is now in its 22nd year without a recession - which is defined as two quarters of negative growth. For the record while I do have a degree - it isn't majoring in economics!

Janet (jan@j4gypsy)

23/04/2013 TT: Lovely to wake up to the sheer poetry of so many of your words :-) This morning: just adding a few pieces of fascinating non-blog reading from the Twitterverse to the gorgeous little yellow bird's list for today. The discussion by the PM with Kohler et al is significant. [i]Paul Barratt @phbarratt[/i] Abbott's use of 'illegal' criticised. What the Convention says is that refugees are entitled to breach immig laws. http://www.theage.com.au/national/-2i9vx.html … [i]Alan Kohler @AlanKohler[/i] RT @ChinaSpec: In today's KGB @BGottliebsen, @SteveBartho and I speak to @JuliaGillard about Australia andChina http://bit.ly/11yMToz [i]Bernard Keane @BernardKeane[/i] In the world of Tony Abbott, Labor has tax rises, the Coalition has "modest levies" http://bit.ly/13PM2VM  [i]Josh Bornstein @JoshBBornstein[/i] “@PSyvret:: http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/opinion/they-can-take-our-stickers-but-theyll-never-take-our-freedom/story-e6frerdf-1226626157551?sv=b64c01aee144f825e6e958de4148939e#.UXWywJlgBLY.twitter … via @couriermail Today's column on union bashing” An art that is timeless #ausunions #auspol [i]Vince O'Grady ‏@vogrady2132[/i] ABC talks to a real economist about the Grattan institute fear mongering http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2013/s3742182.htm … [i]chris murphy ‏@chrismurphys[/i] Peter GarretMP 'Gillard Government’s education reforms have been given a tick of approval from the OECD'.#auspol http://ministers.deewr.gov.au/garrett/international-report-highlights-australian-education-reforms … [i]National Times ‏@NationalTimesAU[/i] A plain-speaking Julia Gillard might just deliver for Labor, writes Dean Frenkel http://bit.ly/Y0qu6u  [i]Mr Denmore ‏@MrDenmore[/i] Back to the Future IV: Chrissie 'McFly' Pyne steers the DeLorean back to 2006 to fight 'The History Wars'....again http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/-2iaro.html … [i]Geoff Pearson ‏@GCobber99[/i] Budget cuts won't really hurt, Gillard promises http://www.nationaltimes.com.au/opinion/political-news/budget-cuts-wont-really-hurt-gillard-promises-20130422-2iaqg.html … [i]About the House ‏@AboutTheHouse[/i] There's a roundtable on adult dental health starting at 9am in Parl House http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/House_of_Representatives_Committees?url=haa/dental/hearings.htm … webcast here http://www.aph.gov.au  And one blog: though Lynnie will no doubt include it tomorrow: [i]Andrew Elder ‏@awelder[/i] Blogpost: THe Liberals are not cruising, they're drifting http://andrewelder.blogspot.com.au/2013/04/not-cruising-drifting.html …

Sir Ian Crisp

23/04/2013[quote][b]Abbott as PM will destroy this nation. If he makes that teeth-sucking swivelheaded glovepuppet John Howard Australia's Governor General, he may as well start nailing together the barricades on the same day. That's where he'll find the people of Australia, on the other side from him. Michael [/b][/quote] Don't be so silly. Abbott as PM....no chance of that happening. Here's confidence for you: [quote][b]Remember Crapstain pointed out that in August last year you could get $evens on Labor to win the next election, and I took out a bundle on us? Well then it went down to $2.85 by Novemmber! But NOW! You can suddenly get EIGHT$! DO IT WHILE YOU CAN FOLKS! $50 gets you $400! $500 buys you a nice little s/h motor car! There's also a site on Betfair which was offering $11 on a Gillard-led Labor victory, That oughta be at about $20s now I reckon!!! with the Media telling us She's gone for ALL money. But I lost the link to that, couldn't find it again, key words were something with BETFAIR, POLITICS, AUSTRALIA and NEXT PRIME MINISTER. Come on Comrades, do yourselves a favour, show some starch, take a little risk, WE WILL WIN and YOU WILL ADORE YOURSELVES! TalkTurkey [/b][/quote] Michael, have you got a lazy $50,000 getting a suntan in a bank account? Why not grab that cash and put it all on the ALP to trounce Abbott in September? Why not put your house on the ALP? Want more reassuring? Here you go: [quote][b]Julia (Wonder Woman) can clean out the pantry(cabinet/ministry) something she failed to do at the last spill and march forward to poll axe Abbort in September. Bilko [/b][/quote] Michael, put your feet up. Take a nap. Just unwind a bit...you seem to be overwrought.

LadyInRed

23/04/2013You are correct Abbott is not liked by the electorate. And he is only really a successful opposition leader "if" he wins. At present he has been very successful in getting his message out there, whether we like it or not we have to accept that. The media love a story and all good stories contain conflict and tension......oooh things don't look good for our main character lets make them worse. Marr is an author afterall. He was getting off on the plot and exagerating it. I have noticed he likes to mix it up a bit these days lest he lose a lot of his audience.

MWS

23/04/2013I am not bagging ALL economists. I AM a qualified chemical engineer, and so am more qualified to determine the technical and economic feasibility of the Kimberley to Perth pipeline than any economist. And it is my professional opinion that the pumping energy required (mainly to overcome friction in such a long pipeline)to move water 3000km is five times more than the energy to pump water through a reverse osmosis membrane (which was also the preferred option of the qualified engineers in the WA Water Corporation). These calculations are merely the running costs, a Kimberley pipeline has much higher capital costs than a desalination plant. On both capital and running costs, the Kimberley pipeline is the worst option for providing Perth's water requirements. Please note that water does not flow "down" to Perth from the north, if it did, Antarctica would be a lot wetter.

Tom of Melboune

23/04/2013[i] And he is only really a successful opposition leader "if" he wins.[/i] Whereas Gillard already has a proven track record of being the most unsuccessful first term Prime Minister in living memory. No other first term Prime Minister in living memory has turned a majority into a minority.

Michael

23/04/2013Thanks for your advice, Sir Ian. Unsolicited, of course, as Abbott will prove to be by the people of Australia.

Jason

23/04/2013Tom, Que your song!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QskZwT1psEc

Casablanca

23/04/2013TT I like the suggestion of Kirby for GG. I had been thinking of contenders since Abbott's little outburst. Angus Houston was one, Lowitja O'Donoghue at 81 years has probably lost her chance, ditto the current NSW Governor, Dr Marie Bashir, who is 83 & has been Governor for about 12 years. I ran out of names pretty quickly. NZ beat us on female franchise, first female PM, first female GG and now same-sex marriage. Kirby as GG would beat the Kiwi's to claiming one of the last frontiers - a Gay Governor-General.

TalkTurkey

23/04/2013OO-errr! Check PiG~THiNG er-ahhing under squizzamination by Ol' Golden Tonsils himself, John "Not-Entirely-Stupid" Laws! NOW the MSM start to dismember him. TAX is the key word. THAT's what gets 'em listening! A 1% *LEVY* on 3000 big businesses, Oh dey's gonna just lub dat! NBN Abbortt's really BADLY wounded, but worse news for him follows now because of GONSKI! For now he is about to feel the sting of the feisty redhaired woman on her own chosen turf, [i]Education[/i], with vast support from the most influential and largest demographic of all, [i]Parents[/i], with Teachers (who may be Parents too!) able to articulate well the needs of Children in less advantaged Schools! And our champion *J*U*L*I*A* is right into taking him on, anytime, anywhere, on any subject, or anyone on his front bench or anybody else for that matter. And that includes the stark-staring-wedged State Premiers! Ain't she sumpin' eh! Knowed it fust time I look at her! But Yeah, listen to this! https://soundcloud.com/#user8766762/i-absolutely-accept-that-ppl

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23/04/2013Folks With all the talk about the reduction of Gillard Government funding of universities to partly fund the Gonski reforms, the text and graph you will see by clicking the link below shows the actual picture. http://campaigniq.communityengine.com/ch/26848/2dnty92/1856581/dd697xhn7.html Some Gonski panellists have condemned this move, but they have been university officials, like Bill Scales, Chancellor of the Swinburne University of Technology, who was on [i]Lateline[/i] last night. We ought not be surprised that self-interest would lead them to this position. The power of slogans has been demonstrated once again: 'Robbing Peter to pay Paul', used endlessly in the Gonski debate, resonates with the unthinking. But what it is meant to convey? Those who use it do so in a pejorative way; it is meant to disparage the Government. But every time any government re-prioritizes expenditure it is ‘robbing Peter to pay Paul’, unless some new source of revenue is generated or becomes available. Governments do this all the time, every time they attend to their budgets, unless they have access to a ‘magic pudding’. No one that I have heard using 'robbing Peter to pay Paul' has explained why such re-prioritizing is education expenditure 'makes no sense' as they routinely say. They expect the unthinking to agree with that simplistic proposition. It does make sense, just as a household decision to spend less on short local holidays to save for a long overseas holiday, makes sense. Bill Scales talked of education being an integrated system, as if that was a cogent reason for not taking resources from one part of the system to enhance another part. Yet to do that makes sense to me. There is a not enough revenue to fund all parts of the education system maximally, so where one part is lacking resources, as Gonski demonstrated the school sector is, it makes sense to enhance resources there by taking them from a better resourced sector, which universities are, as the graph shows. In this case 'robbing Peter to pay Peter' would be more apt. It is distressing to see how the use of simplistic slogans can hoodwink even smart people like university chancellors, of course all the more so when self-interest is operating. For over two years now, we have seen politics via slogans, and how the public has fallen for them. It continues with ‘robbing Peter to pay Paul’.

Jason

23/04/2013Malcolm Farr‏@farrm5112s NSW to sign on to Gonski. BOF and JG presser soon.

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23/04/2013Folks Barry O'Farrell has signed up with Julia Gillard for the Gonski deal. Press conference in a few minutes.

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23/04/2013TT I did enjoy reading your appraisal of David Marr - very stylishly written and astute. Thank you.

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23/04/2013Hi Lyn I'm still working through your links and Janet's Twitter talk. What a fantastic collection of information you both provide to us! The Fourth Estate becomes redundant by the day to those of us fortunate enough to be fed such a rich diet of intelligence.

Pikiranku

23/04/2013TT Your appraisal of David Marr hit a chord with me too. A few things there which have been niggling at the back of my mind and you brought them all together beautifully. Thanks. Spot on! AA Ironically, the LNP won't commit to reversing Labor's tertiary funding decision that you were discussing. As someone on Twitter pointed out: Robbing Peter AND Paul!

Paul of Berwick

23/04/2013Why hasn't this been commented on in the MSM - coalition lead trends down ... http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/politics/morgan-poll-shows-lnp-lead-down-for-third-consecutive-week/

2353

23/04/2013And on Refugees - this is in the media. http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion/politics/use-of-term-illegal-is-ignorant-or-mischievous-20130423-2ibqv.html I still haven't seen anything about the billboard going up! The photoshopped picture on the article is clever too. It's looking like another good week for the Government.

Casablanca

23/04/2013[b]Abbott weather vane swings again[/b] Abbott (in Geralton) just said that he is not surprised that the Prime Minister has thrown money at [b]'THIS PARTICULAR PROBLEM'[/b]. He and Chrissy Pyne have been claiming for days that there is 'NO PROBLEM' in the present education funding model and that Gonski is not supported by the Noalition.

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23/04/2013Pikiranku If he can get away with it, Tony Abbott will keep the university savings but not pay out the Gonski payments, as you say ‘robbing Peter AND Paul’. He gave questions on Gonski short shrift at his Geraldton press conference today, walking away again. All that conference was intended to do was reinforce his anti-Gillard messages. Paul of Berwick. Although I think he was Australia’s first pollster, Morgan never gets a mention in the MSM. For years it has ignored him; I don’t know why. Maybe there was a spat way back. Maybe they see him as unwanted competition. His recent message would be unwelcome to News Limited, whose line today is that Julia Gillard had FAILED (again) to make any impression on the voters with her Gonski reforms. How did they imagine voters would react to Gonski after News Limited tabloids lambasted her efforts to get the States on side? Now NSW has signed on, and others will likely follow, how will the Murdoch press paint that so as to maintain the disdain of the voters for the next [i]Newspoll[/i]? News Limited always has the answer. When [i]Newspoll[/i] is worse for Labor, it is sinking even further; when it is a little better, Labor is still way behind and in for a wipeout anyway; should it be a lot better, it would be a rouge poll; when it is the same for Labor, as this one was, it is ‘flat-lining’, or making no impression, or failing to impress voters. Labor cannot win; Labor will never be allowed to look good. 2353 Tones was unimpressed by the parody of his boat arrivals sign, and disgusted with its disfigurement today.

nasking

23/04/2013 SO NSW HAS SIGNED UP TO THE GONSKI EDUCATION REFORMS EH? AS USUAL UNDER THE LNP QLD GETS LEFT BEHIND...'SMART STATE' BECOMES 'DEPRIVED DUMBER STATE'. N'

Casablanca

23/04/2013ABC Opinion24 at around 2.00pm Nicole Chettel introduced Greg Jennet's report on the signing on to Gonski by the NSW Premier with the words 'NSW is on board but it is not a done deal'. The ABC can't resist a niggle at the PM. To his credit Jennet seems to have done a bit of homework and was even able to offer a couple of positive comments, including that it was a 'very happy Prime Minister' who signed the deal with NSW.

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23/04/2013Casablanca Tones needs to be very careful that he doesn’t find himself seriously wedged on Gonski. But he is such a snake that he believes he can slide out of any trap by using his forked-tongue. Do look at Moir’s cartoon on polliepomes and at Patriciawa’s delightful pome there. http://polliepomes.wordpress.com/2013/04/22/education-revolution-gonksi-says-antonski/

nasking

23/04/2013 APPARENTLY ABBOTT RESPONDED TO THE NSW GONSKI SIGN UP BY SAYING HE [quote]'ALWAYS SUSPECTED DESPERATE STATES WOULD BE LURED BY CASH'.[/quote] WHAT A CYNICAL NEGATIVE RESPONSE...THE MAN IS A COMPLETE MORON...AND IT'S OBVIOUS ABBOTT PRIORITISES POLITICAL GAMESMANSHIP OVER THE APPROPRIATE FUNDING OF AUSTRALIA'S CHILDREN'S EDUCATION. THIS IS NOT THE KIND OF CHARACTER WE WANT AS PM. THUMBS UP TO THE PM AND THE NSW PREMIER FOR PUTTING EDUCATION FIRST. UNLIKE A CERTAIN CREEP AND HIS EVER MOCKING LIKE A CHILD IN THE PLAYGROUND SHADOW MINISTER FOR EDUCATION... PYNE...WHO TREATS EDUCATION LIKE IT'S E-BAY...THROW ANY OLD THING UP AND HOPE IT SELLS. N'

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23/04/2013nasking I thought that Abbott comment was foolish. How will Barry O'Farrell feel about being labelled as someone so easily seduced by a bucket of money from JG? Tony Abbott is painting himself into a corner.

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23/04/2013nasking You are in good form. It's great to see you firing again.

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23/04/2013Casablanca If it's not a done deal, why is Barry O'Farrell standing up with JG announcing a deal not yet done? Don't reporters love the word 'but'.

nasking

23/04/2013 CHRISTOPHER PYNE SHOULD HAVE A COFFEE CUP MADE FOR HIS BIRTHDAY READING: [b]CRAPPIEST SHADOW MINISTER FOR EDUCATION...EVER[/b]! RUNNING SECOND IS JULIE BISHOP WHO WANTED TO BRING IN PERFORMANCE PAY FOR TEACHERS SO THEY COULD [b]ACT OUT A SOCIAL DARWINIAN NIGHTMARE[/b]...CRAWLING ALL OVER EACH OTHER COMPETITIVELY TO GET THAT BONUS. N'

Casablanca

23/04/2013AA, They cannot resist that negative sting in the tail. Often, it is subliminal which makes it more reprehensible that the ABC, especially Opinion24, engage in this anti-Julia Gillard campaign. Thanks for the link to Patriciawa's latest pome. She is such a clever wordsmith. http://polliepomes.wordpress.com/2013/04/22/education-revolution-gonksi-says-antonski/

nasking

23/04/2013 [b]I thought that Abbott comment was foolish. How will Barry O'Farrell feel about being labelled as someone so easily seduced by a bucket of money from JG?[/b] AD, INDEED. YET ANOTHER [b]IMPETUOUS COMMENT BY TONY ABBOTT[/b]. CERTAINLY A DEMEANING RESPONSE. [b]IT'S A PATTERN OF BEHAVIOUR...SPITEFUL, DEMEANING RESPONSES WHEN THINGS DON'T GO HIS WAY...OR HE WANTS TO UNDERMINE AN OPPONENT'S REPUTATION.[/b] THE MAN IS A [b]WALKING DISASTER ZONE[/b]. CERTAINLY [b]NOT PM MATERIAL[/b]. N'

Sir Ian Crisp

23/04/2013I hate being the harbinger of sobering news but I think we can discount those cosy community meetings between the bird of paradox, Abbott and the Australian voters. Each person attending the meetings is paid AUD$50 which in no way taints their point of view but I think paying people to attend doesn't go down well.

Casablanca

23/04/2013Nasking & all Swordsters Speaking of special cups & such like, I have ordered some [i]'I give a Gonski'[/i] bumper-bar stickers and roundels to place strategically around town. (10 for $14.00 incl postage). I also think that Swordsters could take to the local shopping centre bulletin boards with messages produced on home computers and printers. The pomes by our resident poets could also make a few people think more positively about our feisty leader. Imagine a pome created in WA, Adelaide and wherever Truth Seeker lives and before the day is out it appears on Notice boards at Shopping centres, railway stations, libraries around the country. No littering, of course.

Sir Ian Crisp

23/04/2013Hell, now NASA is offside. [quote][b]NASA – New study shows that CO2 COOLS atmosphere Carbon dioxide acts as a coolant in Earth’s atmosphere, says new NASA report. “NASA’s Langley Research Center has collated data proving that “greenhouse gases” actually block up to 95 percent of harmful solar rays from reaching our planet, thus reducing the heating impact of the sun,” says to this article on principia-scientific.org. “The data was collected by Sounding of the Atmosphere using Broadband Emission Radiometry, (or SABER). SABER monitors infrared emissions from Earth’s upper atmosphere, in particular from carbon dioxide (CO2) and nitric oxide (NO), two substances thought to be playing a key role in the energy balance of air above our planet’s surface.” “Carbon dioxide and nitric oxide are natural thermostats,” explains James Russell of Hampton University, SABER’s principal investigator. “When the upper atmosphere (or ‘thermosphere’) heats up, these molecules try as hard as they can to shed that heat back into space.” [...] http://iceagenow.info/2013/04/nasa-study-shows-co2-cools-atmosphere/ [/b][/quote]

nasking

23/04/2013 CASABLANCA, SOME USEFUL IDEAS THERE. YEP, BUMPER STICKERS AND SUCH CAN BE HANDY. [b]TONY ABBOTT DOESN'T GIVE A GONSKI ABOUT YER KIDS.[/b] [b]TONY ABBOTT THINKS YER KID'S EDUCATION AND EXTRA FUNDING DON'T MIX HE'S A GONSKI-FREE ZONE, WHEN RUPERT AND GINA ARE ON THE PHONE[/b] N'

nasking

23/04/2013 [b]TONY ABBOTT...ALL CUTS AND NO GONSKI[/b] :D N'

Jason

23/04/2013Ad Astra, While Sir Ian is saying look over there! April 20. 2013 05:45 PM Ad Astra, you are known in the blogosphere for having a fearless approach when it comes to investigating politics and politicians. Another meaty story is developing and it is worthy of your attention. It seems that even the ALP states aren’t signing up for the Gonski caper. Why would ALP states reject an overhaul of education sponsored by the bird of paradox? With the promise of buckets of money attached to the Gonski caper why are states reluctant to sign up? Only you can get to the truth regarding this strange development. Sir Ian Crisp April 20. 2013 05:53 PM It seems that even the ALP states aren’t signing up for the Gonski caper. Come back and bitch when the June 30 deadline expires! Jason April 20. 2013 06:29 PM Nobody will be coming back, Jason. its a lame duck. el gordo

Casablanca

23/04/2013[b]GONSKI Signing by NSW[/b] Gonski billions to flow as New South Wales signs up The 8 minute video of the signing and joint announcement is at: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-04-23/gillard-and-ofarrell-announce-gonski-funding-deal/4646138

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23/04/2013Jason SIC and el gordo live in fantasy worlds created by their own vivid imaginations. Waking them might be dangerous for their health.

MWS

23/04/2013More quote mining from the deniers! The James Russell of NASA quote is discussing the thermosphere - the atmosphere above 85km. The problem with increasing CO2 is in the troposphere - the lowest part of the atmosphere. CO2 (and NO) are acting similarly in both parts of the atmosphere, but CO2 in the thermosphere is more likely to emit IR radiation into space, whereas CO2 in the troposphere is much more likely to re-emit towards Earth - which is the "Greenhouse Effect." Further, the James Russell quote was made in March 2012 - it has taken a while to bubble up to the surface of the denier-sphere. Or more cynically, time for others to forget the context of the quote. However, I'm glad to see one of the resident deniers agree that CO2 and NO are greenhouse gases. That's a start!

Tom of Melboune

23/04/2013[i]"fantasy worlds created by their own vivid imaginations[/i] A parallel universe, much like the one where the delusional people think Gillard is honest, Swan is competent and the ALP is likely to win an election in about 4½ months.

Sir Ian Crisp

23/04/2013[quote][b]Ad Astra, you are known in the blogosphere for having a fearless approach when it comes to investigating politics and politicians. Another meaty story is developing and it is worthy of your attention. It seems that even the ALP states aren’t signing up for the Gonski caper. Why would ALP states reject an overhaul of education sponsored by the bird of paradox? With the promise of buckets of money attached to the Gonski caper why are states reluctant to sign up? Only you can get to the truth regarding this strange development. Sir Ian Crisp April 20. 2013 05:53 PM [/b][/quote] Well done JGuy. Now we only have Qld, Vic, Tas, SA, WA, NT, and the ACT to go. By the way, have you put the house on the ALP to win the September election?

Jason

23/04/2013Sir Ian, April 20. 2013 05:53 PM It seems that even the ALP states aren’t signing up for the Gonski caper. Come back and bitch when the June 30 deadline expires! Jason

Bill

23/04/2013Tom of Melboune (sic), [quote]Whereas Gillard already has a proven track record of being the most unsuccessful first term Prime Minister in living memory. No other first term Prime Minister in living memory has turned a majority into a minority.[/quote] It would appear that you have a pretty short definition of "living memory." The Howard Liberal government in 1998 polled just 48% of the national primary vote after winning in a landslide in 1996. It's only due to the vagaries of the electoral distribution that Howard managed to scrape through with less of the vote than the Gillard Labor government polled in 2010. So by your own parameters, Gillard is less of a failure than John Howard.

Sir Ian Crisp

23/04/2013[quote][b]Sir Ian, April 20. 2013 05:53 PM It seems that even the ALP states aren’t signing up for the Gonski caper. Come back and bitch when the June 30 deadline expires! Jason Jason [/b][/quote] Sorry JGuy, let me give you a truncated list. The ALP states and territories should have knocked the PM over in their rush to sign up for Gonski money. Those ALP states and territories are: South Australia, Tasmania, the ACT, and..... that's it, just three of them. My question is why didn't the ALP states and territory rush to sign up? Have you put the house on the ALP now that BOF has signed up?

2353

23/04/2013So NSW has signed up for the Education Reforms. Other states will too over time - but it takes a while for some states to either milk it for publicity or work out how they will come up with the state contribution. That no one signed up on the day shows commendable management in my opinion. AA's right, Abbott is about to wedge himself here and will rely on his usual double standards to get out of it. It's a pity some in the media are starting to publicly question it (I suspect some have been privately questioning his method of operation for a while).

Casablanca

23/04/2013Bill, @05:49 PM you wrote: [quote]Tom of Melboune (sic)[/quote] I dips me lid to you for picking up the missing 'r' in Tom's Melbourne. I scroll past Tom of Trollsville but I couldn't help myself after your remark and went back to see if Melbourne had always been mis-spelt. In short, it appears that Tom with the square violet tone gravatar carries the mis-spelling but Tom with the star-burst aqua tone gravatar can spell Melbourne correctly. BTW Bill, Tom of Trollsville is pretty much impervious to facts but I'm sure that others here appreciate your correction. Ha! reCAPTCHA: quarrelling alcho

Casablanca

23/04/2013Robert Gottliebsen said: [quote]Julia Gillard had the KGB* captivated as she explained how the Australia/US and Australia/China relationship would work. Readers will be equally captivated when they watch the video. [/quote] Read more: http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2013/4/23/economy/gillard%E2%80%99s-chinese-game-changer#ixzz2RHHOPrX8 *KBG stands for Alan [b]K[/b]ohler, Robert [b]G[/b]ottliebsen and Stephen [b]B[/b]artholomeusz

Catching up

23/04/2013Abbott does not seem to be having much luck with ho diversionary tactics. As loud as he yells "boats", no one seems to be buying. Could people have stopped listening to him.

Tom of Melbourne

23/04/2013Yeah, right Bill. A Prime Minister is elected on the basis of the 2pp, rather than the seats they win are they? Gillard took a first term government, ahead on 2pp when she knifed a popular leader, and lost votes. She is the first PM in living memory to take a first term majority government and turn it into a minority one! ------------ You’re right too Catching Up, shortly everyone will have forgotten that Gillard- • Is cruel to people who seek our protection • Promised a budget surplus dozens of times, and failed • Broke her written word • Introduced the tax she promised not to • Has a front bench with trainer wheels on • Has a back bench with most of the talent • Leads a deeply divided party

TalkTurkey

23/04/2013[b]*!* FREE OFFER *!* FREE OFFER *!* FREE OFFER *!*[/b] Ta~TAAAAA!!!! Folks You don't get much for absolutely free but this is, I know because I'm doing the offering. See I'd love to send a copy, to anyone who cares to ask, of my wee bookie [i]Brucie the Bilby[/i], only as big as the palm of your hand, but with some of my educational ecological verse and accompanying graphics ... I got lots printed many years ago and never found a way of disseminating them, pity, so there they sit, not achieving their heartfelt aim of educating parents and children about our threatened wildlife, unrequited love inside their little pages unable to flow out into the cosmos. Sad. So I'd love you to have one, for free, and here's all you have to do, (because Ad astra has graciously agreed to be a go-between), [i]just scroll to the top of the page where it says CONTACT and ask Ad to forward you one at your chosen mailing point. [/i] Postage paid already, won't cost you a cent. Ad will do the addressing, well you'll just have to trust us it's not a scam! If anyone sincerely doesn't like the work of little Brucie the websavvy rhyming Bilby I'll have to eat a copy. Some few people here already have one, (they're welcome to another), and nobody has died as a result. No they're nice. Truly. I'm very proud of my little friend Brucie. After Brucie wrote his eponymous wee bookie (1200 words) he got ambitious and wrote [i]The Breeze in the Blue~Gums[/i], 20000 words all in verse! But that is another story. One more thing: Brucie likes his verse to be read aloud to/with kids from small like little to big like 99 y.o., so that everone gets to meet his little mates from the wilderness. Oh gee, I just remembered that moment, today is [b]Earth Day![/b] [i]Auspicious![/i] Give Brucie The Bilby a Home In Your Heart! :)

Patriciawa

24/04/2013Hi Everyone, what a cynic Tony Abbott is, even about people on his own side. I listened to Katherine Greiner talking about the Gonski Review and urging people to get behind the reforms even though they weren't able to be as generous as they had recommended. Yes, I can imagine her talking to Premier O'Farrell about it and urging him to support the changes, which he did and without seeking an extra dollar over the original offer. He seems a decent sort of bloke with the best interests of his state at heart. So it looks as though cynics like Tony Abbott won't have a win, after all! By the way I'm having technical problems with my Gonski pome which Ad Astra and Casablanca have kindly commented on here at the Sword. While writing it I got a message from Word saying that I had [i]lost connection with my saver[/i] whatever that means, so I wasn't able to edit even my first version. Now that the Premiers look like caving in a big re-write, or supplement, is needed. So I've taken it off [i]pro tem [/i]and will get on to the re-write after I've sorted that save thing and can edit again. Meantime instead of writing I've been thinking. It astonishes me that the idea of equality of opportunity is something which has to be budgeted for, or even argued about, in a wealthy country like ours. Over six decades ago as the only girl in a dirt poor family in southern England I was one of the early beneficiaries of the Eleven Plus scholarship introduced by Clement Atlee's post war Labour government. I didn't seek it. It just happened to me. But from then on my life changed and I've had an immensely broadened, enriched and dare I say it, priveleged life as a result. When people like Julia Gillard, Peter Garratt, Katherine Greiner and yes, Barry O'Farrell, work together to achieve that sort of outcome for all children in our community I think we should appreciate them for it, and not question their motives.

Casablanca

24/04/2013 [b]That Liberal Billboard Again [/b] How many racists does it take to unveil a racist billboard? http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151604244100797&set=a.308323450796.193718.274330505796&type=1&theater

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24/04/2013This is a good article, I'll come back to its topic myself soon. http://andrewwhalan.com/2013/04/22/the-gonski-masterstroke/

lyn

24/04/2013Today’s Links Not cruising, drifting by @awelder The Coalition's policy-lazy, always-attack strategy has always been designed to cover up their lack of answers to what this country needs, and their lack of any ability to develop those answers. http://andrewelder.blogspot.com.au/ Abbott’s fear and loathing advertising for his ‘trust me’ election campaign by @margokingston1 Is this the road Tony Abbott has chosen to travel to get voters to trust him? http://australiansforhonestpolitics.wordpress.com/2013/04/23/abbotts-fear-and-loathing-advertising-for-his-trust-me-election-campaign/ Sing Along To The Budget Blues by @beneltham Despite the Opposition's effective attacks on it as a spendthrift, the Government has in general been very responsible, cutting spending and raising taxes to fund new measures like Gonski and the National Disability Insurance Scheme. http://newmatilda.com/2013/04/23/sing-along-budget-blues Destroying Knowledge Tony Abbott Style by @saint13333 Since failing to win the 2010 election, he has opposed everything on the basis that it is what oppositions do. Really? Regardless of the common good. Hardly the thinking of a person of intellectual substance, significance or integrity http://theaimn.com/2013/04/23/destroying-knowledge-tony-abbott-style/ I love the smell of election napalm in the morning by @Macro__Business Another non-core promise disintegrates today from the Opposition leader http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2013/04/i-love-the-smell-of-election-napalm-in-the-morning/ Tony Abbott's lifestyle by @no_filter_Yamba So, the next time this privately educated son of a successful English orthodontist pulls a long face and talks about the need to reduce pensioner allowances, the advisability of forcing those under 30 off unemployment benefits, removing superannuation tax cuts http://northcoastvoices.blogspot.com.au/2013/04/tony-abbotts-lifestyle.html To hell with the surplus! by @ngungun The current hysteria about Australia’s modest level of debt is just another ruse to scare the voting public, says http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/politics/to-hell-with-the-surplus/ So It Turns Out Political Candidates Are Legally Allowed To Lie To You by @ElizaCussen Abbott unveiled a blatant lie. http://junkee.com/so-it-turns-out-political-candidates-are-legally-allowed-to-lie-to-you/6128 Dear Tony your hubris is poking out by @MigloMT You see Tony, we don’t trust you. The people of Australia should not trust you. You will never be our Prime Minister, and if that dire day ever comes when you move into the Lodge, you will be regarded with even more alarm and apprehension than was John Howard http://cafewhispers.wordpress.com/2013/04/23/dear-tony-your-hubris-is-poking-out/ Gonski roundup by @LarvatusProdeo LNP’s position is not clear. Last February they rejected Gonski outright, saying it was an attack on middle Australia. http://larvatusprodeo.net/archives/2013/04/gonski-roundup/ A big fat yes? Or will Tony Abbott leave the IPA crying at the altar? by @ConversationEDU The IPA’s advice on broadband is to “immediately halt construction of the National Broadband Network and privatise any sections that have already been built.” The Coalition’s plan again reveals just how detached Abbott is from the core principles of the IPA. http://theconversation.com/a-big-fat-yes-or-will-tony-abbott-leave-the-ipa-crying-at-the-altar-13657 Lying Eyes by @madwixxy Tony Abbott likes to talk a lot about lies, it appears to be something he seems to be very familiar with. http://wixxyleaks.com/2013/04/23/lying-eyes/ Abbott claims company tax rise won't hurt all businesses by Patrick Stafford Abbott also declined to go into detail about the proposed company tax cut rate. While the federal opposition had previously proposed a cut for smaller businesses, this has been abandoned. http://leadingcompany.smartcompany.com.au/news/abbott-claims-company-tax-rise-won-t-hurt-all-businesses/201304234165 The LNP Know Nothings : Criticism Without A Solution by @andrew_whalan Every question asked is steered back to the current negative talking point. And any promises made, for example, stop the boats, more jobs, etc, etc aren’t explained in detail if at all. http://andrewwhalan.com/2013/04/23/the-lnp-know-nothings-criticism-without-a-solution/ Abbott’s End (39): In The Bunker, Foaming And Kicking The Furniture by Bob Ellis It’s very hard for them to win now. They can’t say they’ll take back the Gonski money. They can’t say when they’ll achieve a surplus. They can’t say the boats are a bigger issue than education, or the disabled, or broadband, or jobs in the north or the provinces. They therefore can’t win in enough of the western suburbs of Sydney, http://www.ellistabletalk.com/2013/04/23/abbotts-end-39-in-the-bunker-foaming-and-kicking-the-furniture/ Con Jobs, Fools, Bigots, Liars And A Touch of Gilbert by @knarfnamduh should he become (perish the thought) Prime Minister post September 14. Should that happen it will be a day of infamy! ‘Infamy, infamy, they’ve all got it infamy!!’ Sorry! So, thinking of Tony, his general slipperiness, http://deknarf.wordpress.com/2013/04/23/graphical-manipulations-31-con-jobs-fools-bigots-liars-and-a-touch-of-gilbert-sullivan/ Climate Change Policy in Australia – evading “certainty” – Part 2 by @damianoconnor1 escalating scale benefits now becoming apparent in the cost of solar PV panels. The resulting reformatting of the energy cost curve, initially a McKinsey creation, will change the choices we can make http://pollcrunch.wordpress.com/ Today’s Front Pages Australian Newspaper Front Pages for 24 April 2013 http://www.thepaperboy.com/australia/front-pages.cfm

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24/04/2013LYN'S DAILY LINKS updated: http://www.thepoliticalsword.com/page/LYNS-DAILY-LINKS.aspx

MWS

24/04/2013Wow, *crickets* from the denier after I refuted the James Russell quote. Why am I not surprised? Just like Peter Reith, never admit being wrong, never apologise, and change fantasy into reality. I suppose it's not hard to confuse the thermosphere with the troposphere - they both start with T.

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24/04/2013Hi Lyn I’ve enjoyed your links again this morning – what a varied collection. Bob Ellis is always an amusing read. The AIMN article on Tony Abbott’s knowledge-destroying propensities, and the comments that followed, is a sobering read. It reveals yet another example of Abbott’s ‘good enough’ approach. He is doing it with NBN-lite and now with Gonski. It’s the ‘if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it’ mindset. The tragedy for us all if he gets to be PM is that he thinks that our broadband is not broke, and our education system and its funding are not broke, so nothing much needs to be done. If this attitude was simply about saving money to reach a surplus, he would run an economic argument, but his reasons seem more profound than that, namely that he really believes everything is OK, and is ‘good enough’ for us anyway. TT The Whalan article is worthy of note: http://andrewwhalan.com/2013/04/22/the-gonski-masterstroke/ I think he may be right. Tony Abbott and the recalcitrant premiers seem to be wedging themselves more and more uncomfortably the longer they deny the merits of Gonski. I’ve had two requests already for [i]Brucie the Bilby[/i]. Casablanca Social media is a great way of mocking, isn’t it? http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151604244100797&set=a.308323450796.193718.274330505796&type=1&theater

Pikiranku

24/04/2013Casablanca The social media have been having a field day with this one, haven't they? I love it. There's nothing like a bit of good healthy mockery to cheer you up in the morning! I thought this would make a good car-sticker: Abbott's a-Gonski

nasking

24/04/2013 CORPORATE CONSERVATIVE GOVTS SURE KNOW HOW TO MAKE LIFE HARDER FOR LOTS OF WOMEN...THIS FROM THE UK: [b]Almost 1.5 million women could be unemployed by 2018 if the government's current plans for job growth continue as planned, according to a new survey. Women's unemployment is rising to a 25-year-high, while men's is decreasing, with 60% of new private-sector jobs since the first quarter of 2010 going to men. The report by the Fawcett Society, which campaigns for gender equality on pay, pensions, poverty, justice and politics, found that almost three times as many women as men have become long-term unemployed in the last two and a half years: 103,000 women compared with 37,000 men. The report found that women have not only already borne the brunt of cuts to the public-sector workforce but that, with 75% of the cuts yet to be felt, the future is even bleaker. Ceri Goddard, chief executive of the Fawcett Society, said: "The labour market is in the midst of enormous change. Almost a million jobs are being cut from the public sector but the government's various plans for growth continue to leave many women behind, with the majority of new jobs being created in the private sector going to men. "At the same time, those women who do find work in this sector are likely to face lower wages and a wider gender pay gap," she said.[/b] http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/24/unemployment-hits-uk-women-harder ABBOTT AND HOCKEY WILL BE GUNNING FOR WOMEN THE SAME WAY. NO WONDER MY WIFE WORRIES. PERHAPS SHE SHOULD BECOME A NANNY? AFTER THE COALITION HAVE WIPED OUT HER HOD JOB...AS THEY OBSESSIVELY CUT CUT CUT. THAT'S WHAT THEY LUV THESE RELIGIOUS CONSERVATIVES...GETTING WOMEN OUT OF MANAGERIAL POSITIONS AND PUTTING THEM BACK INTO JUST THE MOTHER, NANNY, CARER, NURTURER POSITION... ABBOTT WILL USE HIS WIFE AND A FEW LIBERAL ADVISORS AND POLLIES TO TRY AND CONVINCE WOMEN VOTERS OTHERWISE... BUT ANYONE WHO HAS GROWN UP IN A RELIGIOUS CONSERVATIVE HOUSEHOLD...AS I HAVE...KNOWS IT'S IN THEIR DNA. NO WONDER THEY HATE PM JULIA GILLARD SO MUCH. WILL DO ANYTHING TO BRING HER DOWN. GILLARD IS EVERYTHING THEY FEAR... A WORLD OF STRONG WOMEN IN LEADERSHIP POSITIONS WHO LIVE A MODERN LIFE OUTSIDE OF THEIR OLD FASHIONED RELIGIOUS AND PATRIARCHAL IDEAS... A LEADER WHO ACTS AS A ROLE MODEL FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS... OF WOMEN NOT INTIMIDATED BY THE RELIGIOUS BULLY BOYS, PUNCHERS AND MEN'S CLUBS... CONSERVATIVE MEN WHO THINK THE SUN SHINES OUTA THEIR WARMONGERING BUTTS... MEN WHO ARE TOO OFT GOOD AT PROMOTING AND DESIGNING WARS... BUT NOT KEEN TO FIGHT IN THEM... COMMANDING FROM THE HILL...LOOKING DOWN ON EVERYONE ELSE'S SACRIFICES... WHILST THEIR BUSINESS AND MANUFACTURING ARMS MASTERS GO...KERCHING!!! N'

Michael

24/04/2013Fraudband, cancel Gonski, drop the company tax cuts, "what surplus?", big business turning on parental leave levy, 'slit your throat' attitude from Coalition staffers, reporters telling us Abbott now describes as "silly games" what he once called absolute commitments... Abbott, Dud Leader, Shouldabeen who never will, is unraveling before our eyes.

42 long

24/04/2013Wasn't the "NEWS" conference in Geraldton, by abbott and the local nodding heads, pathetic? One boat wanders in to the harbour, threatens no-one asking "which way to new zealand?". Make this into a national issue if you can. When "The Saint" Honest johnnie howard was there,(running the show) the boats got a lot further. right down the east coast of australia. NO FACTS just SPIN. This guy is a total lightweight in anything where reality is a consideration.

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24/04/2013nasking You have to realize that a women’s job is doing the ironing – Tony said so. How is man supposed to look professional if he doesn’t have an impeccably ironed shirt, courtesy of the little lady? And when he comes home after a hard day at the office after having to work through an alcoholic haze after a long lunch, he will need his slippers, a News Limited paper, a stiff drink, and an hour to ease work-generated tension working his fingers to the bone earning money for his little wife and kids before he takes a gourmet evening meal prepared by his resident female cook. The house ought to be clean and tidy, the kids scrubbed and for ready for bed so Dad can give them a paternal pat on the head as they go to their shipshape bedrooms. Life is tough for men, all the more so when smart, well-educated women come along and threaten their jobs! They need to be nurtured, protected and succoured. It’s time we all did a Tony and reverted to the good old days where men reigned supreme in their realm, where women knew their place, and where they realized they are but the handmaidens of those who really run the place – men, wonderful men, glorious men, invincible men, indispensable men, religion-blessed men. There’s no argument here. Wasn’t it a man – Adam – who was good enough to forfeit one of his ribs to create a woman? This indicates the order of things, and as Tony has signalled, we must not mess with the natural order.

Catching up

24/04/2013Has one really looked at the Abbott's inferior maternity scheme, which I suspect no one wants. Who does it benefit. Not the lower income earner that is clear. Does it benefit the employer? Abbott his week, says it does. Yes, there will be a tax levy to pay for it. Abbott believes that the employer by being able to ditch present schemes, will come out in front. Yes, the Abbott's scheme removes the responsibility of the employer, back to the government. Do high paid women really wants a one size fit all schemes, when they now have the ability to have one that meets their needs, embedded into their salary package. What Abbott is doing, is giving to women, who already have access to superior schemes. What he is doing, is leaving the lower income families worse off. Why? Have no answer to this one, unless Abbott does believe there is votes in it. Abbott believes in small government. All he says or does, has to be looked at through that prism. It is also true, there are small government that has big debt. There are big governments that have small debt. It is all about ideology. It is what you want for this country that counts. It is not about right or wrong. It is not about a blame game. It is up to Abbott, to convince us he can deli8ever a fair society. That he is capable of making the investments, that ensure we are leaders in this, the Asian region, in the Asian century thrives. We have everything that is needed to be a great country. It will not happen by accident.

Pikiranku

24/04/2013Nasking at 12.33 Great post, N! Something I wish every woman in Australia could read. Likewise your follow-up post, AA.

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24/04/2013I think abbott's ill conceived maternity leave scheme was nought but a brainfart. Oppose or trump gillards. An ill considered attempt to assert himself as the 'friend' of women. Unfortunately it only adds extra benefit to the higher earning ones Not affordable or justifiable.It's a gonner. Not going to happen..Just more of the abbott unfolding under scrutiny.

Jason

24/04/2013Leigh Sales‏@leighsales34m Joining me on the program tonight is the Opposition Leader, Tony Abbott #abc730

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24/04/2013nasking I thought you might enjoy the story of the businessman who came home one night to find his wife lounging on the sofa in her nightie and dressing gown, hair in curlers, reading a trashy magazine. The four-year old was still in her pajamas, the two-year old had a nappy full, and toys were strewn all over the floor. A pile of dirty dishes filled the sink and breakfast scraps festooned the kitchen table. Dirty washing was heaped next to the washing machine and a basket of un-ironed clothes from yesterday sat on the ironing board. The beds were unmade, the floors un-swept, the vacuum cleaner sat dormant. The mail was uncollected from the letterbox, the computer mailbox was overflowing, his wife’s university project was untouched, and the computer battery was almost flat. Their second car had not left the garage. There was no meal in preparation and no produce in the fridge to prepare it. The astonished husband exclaims: “What on earth is going on here?” His wife languidly puts down her magazine, gives him a penetrating look, and says: “You know how you often ask me what I do with my days – well today I didn’t do it!”

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24/04/2013Pikiranku From your comment, I think you will enjoy the above story.

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24/04/2013Jason Thanks - we shall watch the Sales-Abbott encounter with bated breath.

Sir Ian Crisp

24/04/2013[quote][b]Fraudband, cancel Gonski, drop the company tax cuts, "what surplus?", big business turning on parental leave levy, 'slit your throat' attitude from Coalition staffers, reporters telling us Abbott now describes as "silly games" what he once called absolute commitments... Abbott, Dud Leader, Shouldabeen who never will, is unraveling before our eyes. Michael [/b][/quote] Get down to your TAB or ring BetFair and put your house on the ALP.

Sir Ian Crisp

24/04/2013The bird of paradox is the subject of a self-administered wedgie by the look of it. O’Farrell and Abbott set a trap for the PM and just like a lackwit she stumbled into it without knowing. BOF cut $1.7 billion from the NSW education budget a while back. BOF ring-fenced that money. He then attended the COAG meeting and resisted the Gonski money. The bird of paradox contacted the Chinese Loans Office and secured extra funds which she then offered to BOF. BOF signed up and magically came up with...$1.7 billion dollars as NSW’s contribution to the Gonski education caper. Now BOF is praised for his deal with the bird of paradox. Apart from that he has removed education as a weapon that the bird of paradox could use against Abbott. Abbott can now say a Lib-NP government was the first to sign up and ask just where are the ALP state governments and territory.

nasking

24/04/2013 AD, TOP COMMENTS. :D CATCHING UP TOO. GREAT JOB ON LINKS BY THE EVER HARD WORKING LYN WHO IS A GREAT ASSET TO THIS BLOG. AS FOR THE ABBOTT INTERVIEW TONITE...EVEN THO I KNOW LEIGH SALES IS CAPABLE OF BRILLIANT INTERVIEWS...LIKE EMMA ALBERICI ON LATELINE... SADLY, THE 7:30 CREW HAVE BEEN REAL GOVT BASHERS THESE DAYS SO I DOUBT LEIGH SALES WILL PUT PRESSURE ON ABBOTT... EVEN THO THE VOTERS DESERVE TO KNOW WHY THIS MAN KEEPS FLIP FLOPPING?... WHY ABBOTT CONTINUALLY CONTRADICTS HIS CLAIMS HE WANTS TO UNIFY THE COUNTRY BY NUDGE NUDGE WINK WINKING TO HIS XENOPHOBIC DOG WHISTLERS AND WARMONGERING SUPPORTERS AND OTHERS STILL FIXATED BY THE CULTURE WARS? ...IS THE LIBERAL PARTY SO BEREFT OF USEFUL AND ORIGINAL AND SOCIALLY PROGRESSIVE IDEAS & POLICY THAT IT MUST CONTINUALLY RESORT TO MORALLY BANKRUPT COMMUNITY DIVIDING, SCAPEGOATING AND FINGERPOINTING TACTICS? WHY HE SUCKS UP TO RUPERT MURDOCH AND GINA RINEHART AND THE IPA? IS HE NOT AWARE OF THE FACT THAT NEWS INTERNATIONAL HAS BEEN CAUGHT UP IN SOME UNSAVOURY AND CORRUPT/CRIMINAL PRACTICES THAT MAKE RUPERT MURDOCH'S GOVERNING ROLE OF NEWS CORP LOOK SHAKY, AT THE LEAST...? DOES ABBOTT NOT CARE THAT HE LOOKS LIKE THE PUPPET OF A SHADY, INSATIABLY HUNGRY MEDIA BARON?...PARTICULARLY ONE WHO WAS CRITICISED FOR HIS AND HIS PAPERS' INFLUENCE ON UK POLITICS AND THE POLICE? IS ABBOTT AWARE THAT HIS SUPPORT OF GINA RINEHART...AND THAT OF HIS MATE AND POSSIBLE DEPUTY LEADER, BARNABY JOYCE, MAKES THEM LOOK LIKE TOADIES IN THEIR SUPPORT FOR ENDING THE MINING TAX? IS ABBOTT AWARE OF THE IPA's AGENDA? DOES HE BELIEVE THAT PLAIN PACKAGING OF CIGARETTES WORKS? DOES HE BELIEVE MORE OR LESS SHOULD BE DONE TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM TAKING UP SMOKING? DOES HE INTEND TO BRING IN NUCLEAR ENERGY AND UP THE GST? WHY DOES HE WANT RID OF THE MINING TAX WHEN MINING COMPANIES CAN AFFORD IT YET HE WANTS TO HIT THE LOW WAGE WORKERS ON SUPERANNUATION? AND DOES HE WORRY THAT HIS CUTS TO PUBLIC SERVICE WORKERS WILL CAUSE A DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF UNEMPLOYMENT AND WORSE WAGES FOR WOMEN??? WHY DID HE BS ABOUT THE SLUSH FUND TO GET RID OF ONE NATION? N'

adelaidegirl

24/04/2013Can you please report to Twitter? I don't think I could stand to watch it, especially if Leigh gives Tone a "foot rub". You're very brave!

lyn

24/04/2013Hi Ad, Thankyou for your post to me @ 11:26 AM, I love your appraisals of “Today’s Links” Like you I don’t take Bob Ellis literally but do quite enjoy what he writes, wish his thoughts would come true. Thankyou my lovely friend Nasking :):) Thankyou to Jason for posting Abbott on 7.30pm tonight, wonder if his appearance was decided because tomorrow may be a no news day. He thinks less chance of Gaffes being reported. Just as I suspected at the bottom of Tony's article [quote]Pollie Pedal, this weekend. It's a mere eight days [/quote] [quote]It's on again: Abbott gets back in ring with 7.30's Sales, by Tony Wright [/quote]Tony Abbott is either feeling lucky or he's been reading up. Maybe he's been taking peptides. Whatever it is, he's tempting fate. http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/its-on-again-abbott-gets-back-in-ring-with-730s-sales-20130424-2ien2.html#ixzz2RMJM9CSZ Twitterers are already giving Leigh Sales some instructions:- margo kingston ‏ @leighsales, pre-NSW deal, Abbott said schools funding not a problem, Gonski reforms unnecessary. Can u get clarity?http://www.theherald.com.au/story/1446342/abbott-vows-to-scrap-gonski-reforms/?cs=12 … The Boatmonster Another lie. RT @jot_au: @geeksrulz @leighsales he also promised to resign if a carbon price bill passed....still waiting david ewart ‏ Not another Tony Abbott 7.30 ... http://pocket.co/sa3M2 :):):):):)

nasking

24/04/2013 THE STANDARD AND POORS WARNING TODAY IS EXTREMELY SUSS...THE TIMING LOOKS BIASED TO ME CONSIDERING HOW CLOSE TO AN ELECTION WE ARE... CONSIDERING THE NEED FOR ESSENTIAL INFRASTRUCTURE, COMMUNICATIONS, ENERGY, EDUCATION AND TRAINING SPENDING NECESSARY FOR THIS COUNTRY TO TRANSITION INTO A FAR MORE DIVERSE, EFFECTIVE AND RESILIENT SOCIO-ECONOMIC STRUCTURE...SUCH WARNINGS LOOK AS THO THEY ARE FEEDING INTO THE FAILED AUSTERITY MEASURES VIEW OF ECONOMICS... BENEFITTING THE FEW...OVER THE MANY. I HAVE BEEN EXAMINING S&P AND OTHER RATINGS' AGENCIES FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS...AND IT DOES NOT SURPRISE ME THAT S&P HAS INTRUDED AT THIS POINT. TO SAY THESE RATINGS' AGENCIES ARE PURE AS DRIVEN SNOW AND THAT CERTAIN CHARACTERS IN THESE AGENCIES DO NOT DEMONSTRATE BIAS IS LIKE SAYING NEWS LTD REPORTS IN A BALANCED WAY. I COULD GO INTO MORE DETAIL BUT I'LL LEAVE IT FOR NOW. N'

Catching up

24/04/2013Jason, Abbott must be desperate. Will be interesting to see if he is treated differently from last time. Suspect that will be so.

nasking

24/04/2013 FROM PIKIRANKU ABOVE: [b]Another question: is falsely trashing the nation's economy, attempting to create a self-fulfilling prophecy by reducing business and consumer confidence ... is that a partial success if you partially succeed? [/b] WE SAID PIKIRANKU...THE ABBOTT COALITION MUST BE COMPETING WITH THE IRRESPONSIBLE REPUBLICAN TEA PARTY LOT IN AMERICA... WHO IN THEIR NEGATIVITY AND BLOODY-MINDEDNESS ALMOST TOOK THE AMERICAN ECONOMY OVER A CLIFF. HOW MUCH RESPONSIBILITY WILL TONY ABBOTT AND HIS NEGATIVE 'WIN AT ALL COSTS' CRONIES TAKE FOR JOB LOSSES, LACK OF BUSINESS CONFIDENCE AND A GENERAL UNDERMINING OF WHAT IS A STRONG ECONOMY CONSIDERING THE GLOBAL WOES? THERE IS MORE TO POLITICAL LEADERSHIP THAN JUST BASHING AWAY LIKE SOME CRAZED PUGILIST...AND DOG WHISTLING AND UNION CRITICISING LIKE THE WORST OF FASCISTS. N'

nasking

24/04/2013 SHOULD BE: WELL SAID PIKIRANKU...THE ABBOTT COALITION MUST BE COMPETING WITH THE IRRESPONSIBLE REPUBLICAN TEA PARTY LOT IN AMERICA... BTW, CHEERS! N'

Tom of Melboune

24/04/2013Hilarious! Summary of comments- In the past – [i]Abbott is a coward for not being interviewed on 7.30[/i] Now – [i]It’s very suspicious that Abbott is now going on 7.30 In the past – [i]S&P rating shows what a great job Swan is doing![/i] Now – [/i]It’s sus that S&P put out the warning, they’re biased[/i] There really is just so much entertainment here!

Casablanca

24/04/2013TT, Have you seen what Jack Waterford said re Abbott & his good friend Michael Kirby? [quote]My serious guess is that Abbott, by way of showing his cuddliness, sense of mischief and so as to shock leftie luvvies, will nominate his good friend Michael Kirby, a potentially splendid choice and also bound to be on Gillard's shortlist. [/quote] [b]Behind Abbott's royal tug of war[/b] April 24, 2013 Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/behind-abbotts-royal-tug-of-war-20130423-2id62.html#ixzz2RMYxZZoJ

nasking

24/04/2013 GET THE FEELING SOMETHING'S CHANGING AS VOTERS SEE PM GILLARD GETTING THE JOB DONE ON EDUCATION, DISABILITY REFORM, NBN ETC... AND THEY GET TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE COALITION'S HALF-BAKED POLICIES...AND THE TRUTH ABOUT TONY ABBOTT?: [quote]Somewhat upexpected was the very warm and loud reception Julia Gillard received from the standing-room only crowd. At times it felt more like one of Gough Whitlam's public meetings, with plenty of true believers in attendance. In addition, the government's DisabilityCare program seemed to have attracted a significant number of the participants. The level of civility was also surprising given the depths of public abuse and denigration our political discord has reached recently. Exchanges were good-humoured and without interjections. Great to see that democracy can flourish without descending to soem parody of a survivor reality TV program. No testosterone, and no belittling![/quote] http://laborview.blogspot.com.au/2013/04/julias-community-cabinet-policy.html AND: [b]Julia Gillard faced a crowd of undecided voters in Melbourne last night — and the public’s apparent hostility to her government was nowhere to be seen.[/b] Crikey intern Kylar Loussikian was there. http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/04/23/gillards-one-crowded-hour-to-win-back-labors-lost-voters/ CALLING A RACE TOO EARLY IS JUST PLAIN DUMB...ANYONE WHO IS WELL ACQUAINTED WITH POLITICS KNOWS THAT... PARTICULARLY IN THESE TIMES WHEN 24 HOUR A DAY NEWS AND SOCIAL NETWORKING CAN TURN THINGS ON A DIME. N'

nasking

24/04/2013 I WAS BORN IN ENGLAND...ENJOY WATCHING THE ENGLISH CRICKET TEAM...BUT I ALWAYS SUPPORT THE AUSSIES DURING THE ASHES... FOR SOME POMS TO SAY THIS IS THE "WEAKEST AUSTRALIAN ASHES SQUAD" SOUNDS LIKE CHEEKY DUMB-ARSE TALK TO ME. LOT OF BLOODY GOOD PLAYERS ON THE AUSSIE SIDE. SHOULD BE A GREAT BATTLE. N'

Casablanca

24/04/2013[b]That Liberal Billboard Again: SCARY Boatmonsters edition[/b] http://australiansforhonestpolitics.wordpress.com/2013/04/24/abbott-v-truth-on-illegals/

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24/04/2013TT I've posted three copies of [i]Brucie the Bilby[/i] today.

nasking

24/04/2013 THE COMPANY SOME KEEP EH?: [b]On the 4 April, in the great stone-and-glass National Gallery of Victoria in Melbourne, luminaries descended to celebrate the 70th Anniversary of the Institute of Public Affairs (IPA), Australia’s leading free-market think-tank. Tickets to the gala dinner cost a minimum of AU$500 (£340) per head, and an auction to raise funds for the IPA featured prizes including a guided tour of the Reagan Ranch in California and a behind the scenes Fox News “experience” in New York City, including a meeting with host Bill O’Reilly . Among the speakers were Rupert Murdoch, journalist Andrew Bolt, billionaire mining magnate Gina Rinehart, and a man named Tony Abbott, Leader of the Opposition.[/b] THERE'S MORE: [quote]Following a Rhodes scholarship at Oxford, and an aborted stint at St Patrick’s Seminary in New South Wales, Abbott finally made the decision to go into politics. In a series of letters to Santamaria , he agonised over which party – Labor or Liberal – to join, writing “To join either existing party involves holding one's nose.” He was offered a job working for Santamaria’s organisation, the National Civic Council, but eventually decided to join the Liberal Party. [/quote] [b]When he won the pre-selection contest for Warringah, Sydney in 1994, Santamaria declined to give him a reference.[/b] [b]Though Abbott has arguably been driven by a genuine belief in the common good and the Biblical "golden rule" – “do unto others as you would have them do unto you” – his deep faith is often at the mercy of his ambitions for power. Indeed, the main reason he entered the Seminary was because he wanted to become the Archbishop of Sydney, no less. [/b] [b]His rejection of Santamaria is merely the first in a litany of occasions where Abbott allowed his Machiavellian instincts to get the better of his religion.[/b] THE ADVENTURES OF THE OPPORTUNISTIC MACHIAVELLIAN CONTINUE: [b]In February 2012, Gina Reinhart purchased shares in Fairfax Media. “Good on Gina for being prepared to invest in journalism at a difficult time,” was Abbott’s take on the deal. [/b] [b]Rinehart had already acquired shares in Ten Network Holdings in 2010, where right-wing, climate skeptic journalist Andrew Bolt began his show ‘The Bolt Report’ the following year. Rupert Murdoch owns a significant portion of the rest of the Australian media landscape, while one of the IPA’s goals is to have ABC, Australia’s public broadcasting service (and believers in man-made climate change) broken up and put out to tender.[/b] [b]In Australia the debate about climate change is even more intense than anywhere else because carbon emissions are closely linked with mining, which brings a large amount of money to the economy through exports and jobs. In July 2012 two long-debated taxes on mining super profits and carbon emissions were painfully introduced following years of debate through different administrations. The country remains divided over this issue, with climate skeptics, mining interests, and libertarians lobbying hard for the repeal of both taxes. During his IPA speech, Abbott sided with these interests; promising to abolish the Department of Climate Change, abolish the Clean Energy Fund, and repeal Julia Gillard’s already watered down super profits tax should he be elected. That Gina Rinehart was in the audience did not go amiss. That Abbott had reversed his stance on a carbon tax and an emissions trading scheme did. Indeed, until becoming leader of the Liberal Party in 2009, he supported an emissions trading scheme. The influence of figures like Rinehart, along with the Murdoch media, the IPA, and the mining lobby are clearly visible on this ruthless shift.[/b] MUCH MORE HERE: http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/04/australias-tony-abbott-man-everyone-and-no-one NOT SURPRISING I GET BILE EVERY TIME I SEE OR HEAR ABBOTT...EH? N'

nasking

24/04/2013 YOU'VE REALLY GOT TO WONDER ABOUT THE MENTALITY AND MOTIVES OF SOME IN THE ABC WHO CATER TO MURDOCH'S NEWS LTD JOURNOS AND OPINION WRITERS... NEWS LTD HAS NO PROBLEM WITH DUMPING ON THE ABC ON A REGULAR BASIS... FOXTEL...WHICH IS PARTLY OWNED BY THE MURDOCH EMPIRE HAS JUST WON THE RIGHT TO GET FIRST CHOICE ON BBC SHOWS...TAKING THAT RIGHT FROM THE ABC... SKY NEWS RUN BY MURDOCH'S LOT GOT CLOSE TO GRABBING THE AUSTRALIA NETWORK... NEWS LTD PAPERS GENERALLY ATTACK THE GOVT IN THE HOPE OF BRINGING IN AN ABBOTT-LED GOVT THAT WILL BENEFIT MURDOCH AND FOXTEL AT THE EXPENSE OF THE ABC... AND YET, ONCE AGAIN I TURN ON THE ABC...IN THIS INSTANCE, THE DRUM...ONLY TO SEE TWO OF THE THREE PANELISTS ARE FROM NEWS LTD. WTF! WE SEE THE SAME WITH 'INSIDERS'... Q&A SEEMS TO HAVE A FATAL ATTRACTION TO NEWS LTD TYPES... WE CONSTANTLY SEE THE ABC MORNING SHOW PLUGGING NEWS LTD HEADLINES AND STORIES... ARE THE PEOPLE RUNNING THE ABC A BUNCH OF FCKWITS OR WHAT? DO THEY REALISE HOW MUCH THEY ARE SEALING THEIR OWN DOOM? OR ARE WE ACTUALLY SEEING SABOTAGE OF THE ABC WORKING IN SLOW AGONISING MOTION? MURDOCH CAN AFFORD TO SPRUIK HIS OWN PEOPLE. WAKE UP ABC!!! BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE. N'

MWS

24/04/2013HA! I predicted that Tony Abbott would appear on 730 on ANZAC day eve - being highly cynical. Apparently Tony Abbott was last "available" on the Thursday before Easter - an excellent time to bury a bad performance, because there are no papers on Easter Friday. The next date I could suggest was ANZAC day eve - and it's come true. See my Tweets for proof (@Monicas_WS) What do I win?

KHTAGH

24/04/2013Talk about handle with kid gloves, not once did LS interrupt him like she did with the PM, she just allowed him to turn it into a bloody election speech, notice the big smile she gave him on closing, any doubt anyone had to who LS wants as PM was flushed down the toilet tonight. Abbott's closing prattle on lumbering future budgets with costs was straight out projection of what Howard did with the baby bonus, he was the one responsible for the low act.

nasking

24/04/2013 FRANKLY, I THOUGHT THE INTERVIEW WITH ABBOTT SOUNDED SCRIPTED...AS THO IT HAD BEEN AGREED UPON BY BOTH PARTICIPANTS BEFOREHAND... IT CAME ACROSS AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ABBOTT TO SPRUIK HIMSELF WITHOUT BEING UNDER ANY PRESSURE WHATSOEVER. THE QUESTIONS BY SALES WERE SOFTBALL...WITH FEW FOLLOW-UPS. NO INTENSITY ON HER PART AT ALL... MORE LIKE A 'TELL ME ABOUT YOURSELF TONY' APPROACH. THE INTRODUCTION THAT HE WAS "LIKELY TO BE AUSTRALIA'S NEXT PRIME MINISTER" OR SUCH WAS A BLOODY DISGRACE... TALK ABOUT MAKING ASSUMPTIONS. THE GIVEAWAY TO ME WAS THE LACK OF IN-DEPTH QUESTIONING ALONG THE LINES OF THOSE ISSUES THAT I AND MANY TWEETS AND OTHER QUESTIONERS POSED...COMPLETELY IGNORED BY SALES...AND YET SUCH IMPORTANT ISSUES... FOR INSTANCE, WHEN ABBOTT MENTIONED HIS RESPECT FOR THE CONSERVATIVE NZ GOVT AND ITS ECONOMY SALES FAILED TO ASK THE OBVIOUS QUESTION RELATED TO THE INCREASE IN THEIR VERSION OF THE GST. NOR DID SHE COUNTER HIS BRAG ABOUT BEING HEALTH MINISTER BY QUERYING THE BREAKING OF 'IRON CLAD PROMISES'...OR TAKING A BILLION OUT OF PUBLIC HEALTH. TOO MANY OBVIOUS RETORTS MISSED. METHINKS SALES ONLY MISSED LAYING A BED OF FLOWERS FOR TONY TO WALK ON...ALL THE WAY TO THE LODGE. PATHETIC ABC...AGAIN...PATHETIC. N'

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24/04/2013KHTAGH That was a disgustingly soft interview designed to not put Abbott under real pressure. It must have been pre-negotiated to give Abbott the softest of rides. Leigh Sales has either declared whom she wants as PM or has been got at by her management to give Abbott an armchair ride. Disappointing and appallingly bad.

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24/04/2013nasking I agree. Pathetic and diagnostic of the ABC's position.

nasking

24/04/2013 KHTAGH, AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY. MOST OF THE MEDIA ARE TRULY PATHETIC IN THIS COUNTRY...IT'S LIKE MURDOCH HAS HIS CLAWS RIGHT UP THEIR PUPPET DERRIÈRES. N'

nasking

24/04/2013 [b]That was a disgustingly soft interview designed to not put Abbott under real pressure. It must have been pre-negotiated to give Abbott the softest of rides. [/b] AD, MY WIFE AGREES WITH US. SHE THOUGHT IT WAS APPALLING. A REAL COP-OUT ON LEIGH SALES PART. IF THE MSM DON'T START PUTTING ABBOTT UNDER PRESSURE SOON IT WILL BE SEEN AS BIG A FAILURE AS THEIR PROMOTION OF THE IRAQ WAR...OR AT LEAST, NEGLECTFUL LACK OF IN-DEPTH QUESTIONING AND SCRUTINY. FEELS LIKE MANY IN THE MSM HAVE ALREADY HANDED HIM THE CROWN AND ARE LAYING THE PATH FOR HIS CORONATION. I HAVE NO MORE TIME FOR 7:30. I TEND TO FF THRU IT AS IT IS. N'

nasking

24/04/2013 [b]IF THE MSM DON'T START PUTTING ABBOTT UNDER PRESSURE SOON IT WILL BE SEEN AS BIG A FAILURE AS THEIR PROMOTION OF THE IRAQ WAR...OR AT LEAST, NEGLECTFUL LACK OF IN-DEPTH QUESTIONING AND SCRUTINY.[/b] BTW, I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK THERE MIGHT BE SIMILAR REASONS THEY HAVE 'CHOSEN' ABBOTT...AS TO WHY THEY WERE 'SOFT' ON HOWARD AND CO. IN THE LEAD UP TO THAT IRAQ WAR FIASCO. [b]ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS!!! [/b] N'

Michael

24/04/2013"Boobytrapping the future"?! Abbott accuses the current Federal government of knowingly setting out to wreck the nation's future as revenge on an incoming Coalition government and Leigh Sales on tonight's 7:30 says nothing. She doesn't think to even begin to frame a question to explore the insanity of the idea, the utter ridiculousness of a government determined to destroy a nation's economy, society, its citizens' lives, hopes and plans? Abbott suggests that his political opponents will destroy Australia before they'll let anyone else guide it into the future? Abbott is not a Prime Minister in waiting. He's a moron on repeat repeat repeat* auto-cue. * Three words are so easy.

nasking

24/04/2013 YOU MIGHT FIND THIS INTERESTING BY JOHN FREEBAIRN: A New Zealand-type comprehensive GST tax base, which removes current exemptions for food, health, education, child care and water, would result in a more efficient and simpler Australian GST. Equity, and especially for those on low incomes, is more directly and effectively achieved by recycling the extra GST revenue as better targeted increases in social security payments and larger reductions in income tax rates at the lower end of the income tax schedule. Read more: http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2012/10/3/tax/bigger-gst-can-lift-australia-back#ixzz2RNMh4jzt [b]John Sydney Freebairn is a former Australian politician. He was the Liberal member for Light in the South Australian House of Assembly from 1962 to 1970.[/b] (THE CONVERSATION) AND: [b]A lower Australian business tax rate has additional gains for the Australian economy. The lower rate reduces the current tax favoured treatment of debt investment over equity investment by international investors. In turn, the lower gearing ratio would increase the ability of firms to ride cyclical, seasonal and other business shocks.[/b] Read more: http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2012/8/14/australian-news/capital-reasons-corporate-tax-cut#ixzz2RNNwshVR HMMM...DIDN'T MURDOCH BUY THE BUSINESS SPECTATOR RECENTLY...AND ALLAN KOHLER ON THE ABC IS SMILING WITH LOTS OF MOOLAH IN HIS BANK ACCOUNT? N'

nasking

24/04/2013 THE ABC IS LOOKING DODGY. N'

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24/04/2013MIchael Abbott becomes more reprehensible by the day, but not one journalist in this nation seems to have the guts to challenge his dishonesty, his preposterous utterances, and his paucity of vision and plans. It is sickening, and frightening for our country.

DMW

24/04/2013Michael @ 8:37 PM no disagreement that Sales could have jumped in boots and all on the suggestion that the government is booby trapping the future. That is a big let down and a #mediafail. However ... [i]... the utter ridiculousness of a government determined to destroy a nation's economy, society, its citizens' lives, hopes and plans?[/i] It is a ridiculous suggestion and it is equally ridiculous for people to suggest that an Abbott government would destroy the fabric of the nation which is a scaremonger that many die-hards suggest would happen should Mister Maybe make it to the Lodge. Pots and kettles.

Pikiranku

24/04/2013Nasking, AA, Ktagh, Michael I, too, watched the 7.30 interview tonight and thought it was a set-up. When Leigh Sales completed her questions Abbott began his answers immediately, without a moment's hesitation. There was no appearance of prior consideration or even a moment's thought as to how he would frame his response. And the responses were extraordinarily and unnaturally fluent. So very unlike the um-er-ah-ah-ah Tony we're all so familiar with. If he wasn't fed the questions well beforehand and if he didn't have a script up in front of him, I'd be very very surprised.

Algernon

24/04/2013Abbott on 7:30 tonight managed to say nothing, it was all his usual rhetoric. Sales unlike last time when she carved him up seemed reluctant to as questions that might have undermined him. Perhaps they were trying to lure him onto the program so that he might return a few more times before the election. This all appeared scripted tonight though there were a few near fumbles. Closer to an election and on less of a tight leash he'll slip up. He needs to release policy, if fraudband is the standard and a lack of any sort of response to Gonski (apart from the poodle doing his best Monty Python look), then just maybe the Libs might just snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

TalkTurkey

24/04/2013There is no equivalence between an unscripted impromptu interview and one that has been pre-recorded and sanitized. Abborrrtt would be a insane loose cannon if ever he were elected. Especially wrt Indonesia, Malaysia and other near neighbours. And China! He can't hold himself responsible for any off-the-cuff comments, by what sort of idiocy could he be seen as fit to be Prime Minister?! As for Sales, well all I can say is I feel honoured that she long ago blocked me from her smelly Twitterstream.

Tom of Melbourne

24/04/2013It’s a conspiracy I tell you!! Everyone’s against us. Gratten, Sales, Uhlmann, Rudd, Kelty, Tanner, Carr, Bowen, Ferguson, Kelly, Tingle, Crean, Marr, S&P… Why is it that the [b]TRUTH!!![/b] is known only to 5 or 6 of us here at TPS!!???

Casablanca

25/04/2013[b]Abbott's GG gripe reignites republican sentiment[/b] Ray Cassin April 23, 2013 [i]Abbott has unwittingly done Australians a service, however, by writing to the Prime Minister. He has reminded us just how muddled are the terms in which the head of state/viceregal role is usually described, and why the people, not politicians, should choose the person who holds the office.[/i] http://www.eurekastreet.com.au/article.aspx?aeid=35994

Casablanca

25/04/2013 [b]How Tony Abbott laboured over choice of party[/b] ROSS FITZGERALD AND STEPHEN HOLT The Australian October 13, 2012 12:00AM [quote]NEWLY discovered letters that Tony Abbott wrote to his Melbourne-based mentor B.A. "Bob" Santamaria illuminate his inner struggle to decide which major political party to join. [/quote] http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/how-tony-abbott-laboured-over-choice-of-party/story-fn59niix-1226494801586

Keith D

25/04/2013"We won't be proceeding with the superannuation low income offset because it's funded by the mining tax, which is raising no money." And later... "LEIGH SALES: You spoke earlier about your document Our Plan and it includes the statement that, "We have an economic plan for Australia, a plan to lower taxes to stimulate economic growth." Isn't that promise contradicted by your policy to impose a 1.5 per cent levy on big business to fund a maternity leave scheme? TONY ABBOTT: I hear what you're saying, Leigh, and I know that there are some people who are unhappy about that element of our policy. But let's never forget that we are abolishing the carbon tax, we're abolishing the mining tax....." That'd be the mining tax that's raising no money then Tony?

lyn

25/04/2013Today’s Links Tony Abbott and the “slit your throat” staffer scandal by @davrosz Van Onselen, of course, when he had the opportunity to probe Abbott about this affair on Sunday, but avoided the topic until almost the end of the interview and then brushed over the affair. Of course, many had predicted as much, with Van Onselen being employed by Tony Abbott’s primary promoter — Rupert Murdoch. http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/politics/tony-abbott-and-the-slit-your-throat-staffer-scandal/ Murdoch Censorship Gives the Lie to ‘Freedom of Speech’ Claims by @MigloMT Mr Williams, CEO of News Limited in Australia says we do not need to worry about the domination of the Murdoch press because we now have digital media! “Let’s see if it works” said Dick Smith. http://theaimn.com/2013/04/24/murdoch-censorship-gives-the-lie-to-freedom-of-speech-claims/ Abbott-v-truth on ‘illegals’ by @TonyYegles Michael Keenan choked with emotion in June 2012 during the Asylum Seeker bill on the Malaysia Solution. Mr Keenan openly and willingly vilifies asylum seekers by calling them “illegals”. http://australiansforhonestpolitics.wordpress.com/2013/04/24/abbott-v-truth-on-illegals/ Australia's Tony Abbott is a man for everyone and no one by Liam McLaughlin Abbott is a man for everyone and no one, a flatterer of the rich and powerful, and an open vanguard for neoliberal hawks to pull apart the social contract. If he is elected, Australia will no longer be “the lucky country”. http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/04/australias-tony-abbott-man-everyone-and-no-one Standard and Poors threat to our AAA rating more neck than a herd of Giraffes by @FairMediaAllian And where does that leave poor old Tony Abbott who has been busily backpeddling from his previously-held position that if the LNP are elected in September, they would go immediately to a surplus budget? Flat-footed, for sure. Here he is in The Australian today:”That’s what Standard & Poor’s are warning us – there has to be a pathway back to surplus http://fairmediaalliance.wordpress.com/2013/04/24/standard-and-poors-threat-to-our-aaa-rating-more-neck-than-a-herd-of-giraffes/ The facts on university funding With record levels of funding increases, some savings will be made in order to help pay for the biggest change to schools funding in nearly 50 years. With so much misinformation around about this, it has become easy to lose sight of the facts. http://www.alp.org.au/the_facts_on_university_funding THE FACT-CHECKING UNIT, This new team will check the accuracy and factual basis of public statements by politicians and other public figures and groups, and provide background, context and verification on important issues http://media.crikey.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/ABC_announcement.pdf Tony Abbott’s ‘reverse Midas touch’ on Coalition policy by @BernardKeane The point of the policy was always to counter perceptions that Abbott’s views on women were from the 12th century, and as image makeovers go, it’s one of the more expensive ones. Woolworths, for example, on last year’s results would have had to pay an extra http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/04/24/tony-abbotts-reverse-midas-touch-on-coalition-policy/?wpmp_tp=1 Dr No’s army of carbon pen-pushers by @macro_business Labor’s two best national interest policies – the NBN and carbon pricing – are being butchered by a Coalition happy to abandon principle in pursuit of power. Heaven help reason if it ends up on the wrong side of a “battle line”. http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2013/04/dr-nos-army-of-carbon-pen-pushers/ NSW SAYS YES TO BETTER SCHOOLS IN PAGE by @CoffsOutlook Janelle said the historic agreement will benefit over 1.1 million students across the state and ensure every child in Page receives a world class education. http://coffsoutlook.com/nsw-says-yes-to-better-schools-in-page/ Did Tony Jones and the Q and A team really mean to send this message about Indigenous health? by Melissa Sweet It spoke volumes that the host Tony Jones chose to have the first, agenda-setting question come from the president of the AMA, Dr Steve Hambleton. http://blogs.crikey.com.au/croakey/2013/04/24/did-tony-jones-and-the-q-and-a-team-really-mean-to-send-this-message-about-indigenous-health/ Faster-than-superfast internet, and why we can’t have it (yet) by @ConversationEDU You may have read about Sony’s plan to install a fibre-based internet service in Japan which could reach download speeds of 2 gigabits a second (Gbps).That’s 20 times faster than speeds offered by Labor’s National Broadband Network (NBN), and even twice as fast as Google Fiber, http://theconversation.com/faster-than-superfast-internet-and-why-we-cant-have-it-yet-13595 The myth that the Howard Government left absolutely no government debt when it departed by @no_filter_Yamba No matter which way the bread is sliced the fact remains that the Howard Government went to the 2007 federal election with government debt on the books. http://northcoastvoices.blogspot.com.au/2013/04/the-myth-that-howard-government-left.html Fear politics and blame by @psychamuse Mr Abbott has continued the strategy of fear, which generates loud and ugly “newsworthy” bites. Standing in front of the vitriolic posters expressing hatred toward the Prime Minster is one example of such a strategy http://australianpsyche.blogspot.com.au/ Uni Gets A Lesson On Vested Interests by @simoncbradshaw After loud public outcry, Sydney Uni has decided that it can host the Dalai Lama after all. What’s the cost of the institution’s efforts to distance itself from the Tibetan leader, http://newmatilda.com/2013/04/24/uni-gets-lesson-vested-interests Law provides a bargain bonanza for News Corp and their shareholders. by @newsfliporg As for News Corp - their poisonous contribution to the cultural landscape of the last 50 years will surely be remembered by history as one of the greatest betrayals of the democratic principle of freedom of expression and information in the public interest http://www.newsflip.org/2013/04/law-provides-bargain-bonanza-for-news.html Back to the future by @JohnQuiggin2 it’s truly bizarre to see the Australian right (IPA, CIS and Tony Abbott) presenting New Zealand as a model, on the basis that the budget has been returned to surplus. Apparently, it doesn’t matter that the economic outcomes have been consistently appalling, http://johnquiggin.com/ A fable of Eunuchs, Praetorians, and University funding cuts by @FrijtersPaul http://clubtroppo.com.au/2013/04/24/a-fable-of-eunuchs-praetorians-and-university-funding-cuts/#more-22804 States out of step on Direct Action by Andrew Herington The level of climate scepticism that has spread through Coalition ranks around the country will block any moves to restore state-based programs – with an easy excuse of budget deficits http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2013/4/24/policy-politics/states-out-step-direct-action#ixzz2RNSUxau1 Today’s Front Pages Australian Newspaper Front Pages for 25 April 2013 http://www.thepaperboy.com/australia/front-pages.cfm

Michael

25/04/2013DMW, there's a whole world of difference between a putative national leader who claims the current government is deliberately laying depth charges to damage the nation's future, and people espousing opinions that his policies are likely to (or indeed if some people's opinions hold strongly enough, will) destroy aspects of people's lives, a country's natural resources, or its international standing. The latter is a response to on the record stated (some even 'written down') policy intentions and past legislative track record. The former is paranoiac, childish, and just plain loopy. I know precisely where "ridiculous" is in this discussion, and I know exactly where ridicule should be directed. Hint: at the man who's sworn as many times as Wayne Swan testified there would be a budget surplus and has been beaten up since announcing budgetary considerations might put that off, direct ridicule (and more, demand the truth from) the man who now says that his introduction of a "fair dinkum" straight out of the blocks paid parental leave scheme will now have to occur in the light of... budgetary considerations. Tony Abbott is repositioning himself in the beguiled public eye to place himself publicly in the position he has never actually privately shifted from - wipe Rudd/Gillard government achievements and programs from the record, return to Howard's supposed "golden age", and then, because there'll be no need to do anything further, do nothing. Except leave the country to market forces. Not just stop the boats, but turn back the clock. And then hand over the key. Going backwards as national government policy? Surely, DMW, you can see how ridiculous this is? How truly destructive to a nation that had outgrown Howard's vision of the country even when he was still PM? I know precisely where "ridiculous" is in this discussion.

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25/04/2013LYN'S DAILY LINKS updated: http://www.thepoliticalsword.com/page/LYNS-DAILY-LINKS.aspx

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25/04/2013Hi Lyn I've got a head-start today, and have already read your links. Thank you for giving us such an informative collection on Anzac Day. When the comments of Bernard Keane, and about nine other writers that are critical of Tony Abbott and Coalition policies are set against the soft and ineffectual probing of Leigh Sales last night, the inescapable conclusion is that Sales was under pressure to not maul Abbott as she did last time. There is so much to probe, as these authors demonstrate, yet Sales let him slide away, with a self-satisfied smile on his face as the interview ended, from the scrutiny he deserves.

lyn

25/04/2013Good Morning Ad, Lee Sales did not interrupt Abbott once. Really is upsetting when Abbott is allowed to say anything without any objection at all by Journalists, Interviewers, everyone. Michael your post @ 7.35am is brilliant, I couldn't agree more. love this [quote]paranoiac, childish, and just plain loopy.[/quote] Phillip Hudson has written his piece about the remarks Abbott made last night. [quote] Abbott says Labor a threat to future government [/quote] by PHILLIP HUDSON TONY Abbott has accused Labor of "booby trapping the future'' by leaving the next government with big spending plans that will make the Budget difficult to manage. This is a pretty hopeless government but they're pretty clever at politics. I suspect every day they will be out there (a) milking incumbency, (b) demonising the Opposition, (c) mortgaging the future in the hope of buying a few votes and (d) [b]booby-trapping the future in the hope that an incoming government will be saddled with a whole lot of commitments that make managing the Budget very, very difficult indeed.'' [/b]http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/abbott-says-labor-a-threat-to-future-government/story-e6frg6n6-1226629005325

nasking

25/04/2013 THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA ACT AS DEFENDERS AND WHORES OF THE PRIVILIGED RICH WHO BUY OUR LEADERS AND INFLUENCE POLICY...THE FACT WE COULD NOT GET APPROPRIATE MEDIA REFORM THRU IN A COUNTRY LIKE AUSTRALIA TELLS US OUR DEMOCRACY IS BROKEN...AND TONY ABBOTT WANTS TO GET RID OF THE MINING TAX WHILST PUTTING UP THE GST ON YOU...HE JUST WON'T TELL YOU ABOUT THE GST INCREASE...BUT HE TOLD LEIGH SALES LAST NIGHT HE RESPECTS THE NEW ZEALAND ECONOMY RUN BY CONSERVATIVES...WHO UPPED THE NZ GST WHEN THEY GOT INTO POWER. MURDOCH AND RINEHART AND OTHER WEALTHY CHARACTERS WANT ABBOTT TO GIVE THEM A CORPORATE TAX CUT...WHILST YOU PAY MORE. WELCOME TO THE MURDOCHRACY! POWER TO THE PEOPLE! N'

TalkTurkey

25/04/2013Ad Merci bien for onsending Brucies, that was quick! Swordsfolk who missed my offer of a [b]FREE[/b] Brucie Bilby Book, please go to this thread at 9.26 PM on 23/4/13 and [b]Give Brucie Bilby A Home [/b]

Catching up

25/04/2013http://media.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/national-times/deficit-of-surplus-promises-4215009.html Do governments have that much control over the economy. Yes, they do decide who get to share the goodies. The question to be asked, who will do better for you. Abbott is promising nothing for the greater part of the population. I do not believe Abbott come out of last night, looking any better. He still was relying on slogans, motherhood statements and the same tired story. All he is saying, is he can do it better. Take me on trust. Where is the proof that he can.

Sir Ian Crisp

25/04/2013[quote][b]It’s a conspiracy I tell you!! Everyone’s against us. Gratten, Sales, Uhlmann, Rudd, Kelty, Tanner, Carr, Bowen, Ferguson, Kelly, Tingle, Crean, Marr, S&P… Why is it that the TRUTH!!! is known only to 5 or 6 of us here at TPS!!??? Tom of Melbourne [/b][/quote] Tom’s list contains a hard core group that threatens to advance democracy by promoting their own views; heterodox views according to the kids here at TPS. Disturbingly, Tom’s list is incomplete and reveals Tom as an obscurantist because he omitted his own name. Tom may indeed be the leader of those who hold dangerous views about advancing democracy. I find Tom poses intelligent questions and posts unchallengeable facts. Capital punishment may provide a remedy for dangerous people like Tom.

TalkTurkey

25/04/2013Lyn Good Morning and Thank You Ever So Yet Again I would be lost for words if I had to go without your Links for long! Such a rich breakfast smorgasbord of information you provide for so many people, at the same time disseminating the thoughts of the writers - exactly as they love. Otherwise many of those wonderful articles would be like the proverbial - what is it? - something happening when nobody is there to notice! ... A violet flower unseen, a tree crashing deep in a forest ... Because your Links link both ways. I know I say this sort of thing often to you, but not nearly as often as you are up in the inky darkness on behalf of us all. For me and for many others, you make this medium work altogether better!

Bilko

25/04/2013Questions to swordsters re Abbott's Maternity plan 1 How many women earn over $150k ans= X 2 How many of these $150k women are of child bearing age ans = X-Y 3 How many of these $150k women of child bearing age want to have children ans = X-Y-Z 4 How much revenue will taxing the Top earners raise ans = A(est $6b) 5 How much will be paid to these $150k women of child bearing age wanting to have children ans = A-Z x $75k. Forgive me if I might be slow on the uptake but the amount ought to be trivial in the great scheme of things compared with the brain fart predictions from the Noalition. Finally after the cue card rendition by Abbott on abc last night all bets are off until he see's the state of the budget. As Satchmo sang "What a wonderful world" and the general public accepts this give me a break.

Ad astra

25/04/2013Folks Do read this article from [i]Business Spectator[/i] to learn more about the role of economists and the Rinehart/Rogoff error. One paragraph stood out to me: [i]”Keynes made the point long ago: "the ideas of economists and political philosophers, both when they are right and when they are wrong, are more powerful than is commonly understood." [b]Good economists know that nothing is certain and everything depends on everything else.[/b] They know the weakness of their analytical tools and resist the temptation to enshrine ambiguities with the false precision of models or with the blinkered certainty of doctrine. Economists have to resist the demands of politicians who want simple arguments…powerful enough to confound their opponents and sway the public. Economists need to respond quickly to unfolding events and stand ready to take the defence attributed to Keynes: "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?"[/i] Q.E.D. Read more: http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2013/4/25/global-financial-crisis/how-economists-perpetuated-great-recession#ixzz2RR4ADlDz Bilko Great maths - pity the economists are not up to it!

elizabeth

25/04/2013Enjoy your blog Ad Astra. While I agree that the Sales interview was scripted I felt that she did put forward some of the Govt initiatives. While we are still not officially into the election campaign I suggest that the Govt is just continuing "business as usual". The Opposition is already campaigning via MSN or whichever medium they can get easy mileage. My opinion is that once ALP get into election mode the wheels will fall off for LNP. While a great percentage of the voting public mainly ignore politics, I believe that they will weigh up what the ALP is offering against the "no" policies of the LNP.

doodlepoodle

25/04/2013Talk Turkey Just want to say thanks for the Brucie Bilby book that AA has advised has been posted to me. My gkids will love it whenever they visit.

nasking

25/04/2013 A LOT OF PEOPLE SEEM KEEN TO PUSH OTHERS INTO WAR...BUT I DON'T SEE THEM MAKING SACRIFICES. THE IRAQ WAR LED TO THOUSANDS OF CASUALTIES ON THE COALITION SIDE...AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF IRAQIS...AND YET MOST AUSSIES, AMERICANS, BRITS TREATED IT LIKE IT WAS A SIDESHOW...TELEVISION ENTERTAINMENT...OR JUST IGNORED IT...KEPT SHOPPING, GRIPING ABOUT THE COST OF LIVING. PATHETIC. THEY LET HOWARD, BUSH, CHENEY, RUMSFELD, BLAIR AND OTHERS GET AWAY WITH WAR CRIMES. SHAME. MUCH OF THE WORLD'S LEADERSHIP IS PATHETIC...HAS BEEN FOR A LONG TIME...AND APPARENTLY OUR MEDIA WILL ENSURE IT WON'T IMPROVE...POSSIBLY GET WORSE. TOO OFT THESE DAYS SOLDIERS AND INNOCENTS DIE IN WARS WHILST CORPORATIONS AND THE RICH BENEFIT. N'

nasking

25/04/2013 HOW MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE TODAY PRAISE THEIR SOLDIERS...YET CONVENIENTLY IGNORE THE FACT THAT SOME OF THESE SOLDIERS BRAVELY FIGHT AND DIE PROTECTING WOMEN, CHILDREN, FAMILIES BEING PERSECUTED... SOME BEING THE VERY SAME FAMILIES FLEEING TO AUSTRALIA SO AS NOT TO BE KILLED BY THE ENEMY THE SOLDIERS ARE FIGHTING? TOO HARD FOR SOME PEOPLE TO THINK... EASY THO FOR THEM TO FEAR AND NOD THO WHEN ABBOTT AND HIS CRONIES GO: "STOP THE BOATS!" SICKENING. N'

Ad astra

25/04/2013elizabeth Welcome to [i]The Political Sword[/i] family, and thank you for your comment. Do come again. I think you are right. When the real campaign starts in about four months, so long as journalists insist on Abbott fronting up with policy details and costings, the shallowness of the Coalition policy framework will be exposed, along with the spectre of it backing away from imprudent promises it has made, as we are already seeing. The Coalition's day of reckoning is coming, although all they and journalists seem to talk about is Labor's day of reckoning.

Pikiranku

25/04/2013Michael "How truly destructive to a nation that had outgrown Howard's vision of the country even when he was still PM?" Absolutely spot on. And when the voters do eventually engage I don't think they're going to be nearly so impressed with what's on offer from Abbott and his cohorts as the MSM seem to believe they will be. Btw folks, grab one of TT's Bilby books while you have the chance. It's clever, engaging and educational. It won't be just your grandkids who'll love it - you will too!

Michael

25/04/2013The thesis put here http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4650474.html is too silly for words, but the author has used a lot of them puffing it up. Amongst the comments you may find this from me: Sorry, Alex, Abbott's already smacked down your theory. There'll be no Gonski without ALL the States on board, says Shouldabeen. Ergo, all O'Farrell's done unless he's started an 'all in' signathon is strengthened any argument you posit Labor can make vis-a-vis the Conservatives are against educational equality. The hold-outs, say Barnett and Newman, are thus identified as in Abbott's "No" camp, and thus anti-State government feeling in their states can be harnessed to a pro-Labor Federal vote. Besides, Labor isn't using education reform to get re-elected, it's pushing lifting education standards to better the nation right across the nation, not just in the One Percent and adjacent suburbs.

Catching up

25/04/2013"....The one persistent problem in Tony Abbott's otherwise remarkably successful stint as opposition leader has been a failure to successfully develop and sell any policy beyond negative ones. This has serious implications for a party seemingly on the verge of entering office with, possibly, majorities in both houses. While the left is building the prospect of an Abbott government up into a sort of monstrous reactionary ogre, the more realistic risk, as insightful observers like Saul Eslake have pointed out, is that it might be a do-nothing government hobbled by its leader's aversion to complex policy and economics. Several key Abbott policies have come under attack this week. The apparent abandonment of the Coalition's corporate tax cut and recommitment to a 1.5 per cent tax rise for large companies has refocused attention on what Abbott terms a "signature policy", his version of a Paid Parental Leave scheme. This was the policy Abbott sprang on his party in 2010, generating criticism for his lack of consultation and the generosity of the scheme to women earning up to $150,000 a year, and subsequently giving him grief after shadow cabinet rolled him on a payment for at-home mothers designed to counter internal criticism from conservatives.. Read more: http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2013/4/24/politics/why-abbott-lacks-policy-promise#ixzz2RRYcfVkR How many higher income women do not have access t6o probably better maternity leave as a condition of their employment, in their salary package. Not many, I assume. The problem is that Abbott has no policy. He has promised that differ, depending on the audience at the time. None are set in stone. Abbott is good at telling us what he cannot do. Does not seem to tell us what he will and more importantly, how.

Ad astra

25/04/2013Michael I agree with your analysis. Lifting educational standards is Julia Gillard's prime political purpose, election or no election.

nasking

25/04/2013 THIS ONE IS FOR TONY ABBOTT...THE DICKHEAD WHO WANTS TO SPEND OVER 1.5 BILLION VALUABLE TAXPAYER DOLLARS ON DRONES IN ORDER TO HELP 'STOP THE BOATS': U.S. Customs and Border Protection drones are a wasteful giveaway to defense contractors and a threat to civil liberties, a report released Wednesday by the Center for International Policy found. The report came the same day an advocacy organization called on the Federal Aviation Administration to strengthen drone privacy protections. The report's findings are of particular interest now, with Congress considering whether to increase funding for border drones as part of a comprehensive immigration reform package. Customs and Border Protection's drone fleet currently includes seven Predators and three Guardians. Under a $443.1 million contract the agency issued in 2012, it may gain 14 more drones in three years. Tom Barry, lead author of the report, said it found "an inefficient, costly and absurd approach to border security and homeland security through the purchasing of Predator drones that were designed for military activity." Despite the hundreds of millions spent by the agency for domestic drones, by Customs and Border Protection calculations, the weapons have played a supporting role in only 0.003 percent of drug seizures and 0.001 percent of illegal border crossing detentions. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/24/border-patrol-drones_n_3150227.html YET ANOTHER BIG EXPENSIVE CON ON THE PUBLIC DOLLAR...BENEFITTING THE MANUFACTURERS OF WEAPONS AND PRIVACY INVASION. THINK OF HOW FAR THAT MONEY COULD GO IN AIDING REFUGEES TO RESETTLE...OR FOR EDUCATION AND HEALTHCARE PURPOSES. BUT JUST LIKE WITH THE F-35 SIGNING WE HAVE THE COALITION EAGER TO WASTE MONEY ON WAR MACHINES...AND SECURITY TOYS. N'

Catching up

25/04/2013Maybe it is time for the ABC to tell us what agreement any politician has before any interview. Like, are the questions written down before the interview. Are any questions off limits. Has the interviewer been warned about going in hard. I have no problem with the PM being interviewed in any way. Does not matter in her case, as she is capable of answering any question put to her. Leigh did ask many of the questions, just did not challenge the answers. Does one believe most of the public are not clever enough to work that out for themselves.

Pikiranku

25/04/2013Nasking Yes, war and its commemoration is complicated and I don't think a lot has changed throughout the centuries of recorded history. Armies have always been led into war by people who stood to gain from a victory, but many of whom dreamed up quite different official reasons for the conflict. Call me cyncial if you like, but I can't help thinking that all these parades and ceremonies we see today have as much to do with the self-glorification of the survivors or their descendants as with the commemoration of the dead. I think most fallen soldiers are victims rather than heroes - victims sucked in by a system and leaders, both political and military, who have everything to gain and nothing to lose from war. I come from the Vietnam War generation so I know quite a few people who have never fully recovered from the experience of fighting there. I'd love to see a breakdown by rank of the former participants whose lives are now tenuously held together by counselling and drugs. I'll wager there aren't too many generals among them. Or too many of the politicians who initiated the whole sorry business. But they'll all be out there today with their medals and ribbons and wreaths. And the underlings who survived will gratefully drink to the annual moment of glory that's allowed to them. I know I'm on dangerous ground here, questioning the value of the Anzac Day tradition, but is it a 'Look over there' type situation? If you can make a sacred cow out of the commemoration of fallen soldiers you can stop any real examination of the reasons why they were sent to die in the first place.

nasking

25/04/2013 Catching up, YOU CAN FIND THE SAME STORY BY KEANE @ CRIKEY: http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/04/24/tony-abbotts-reverse-midas-touch-on-coalition-policy/ [quote]Turnbull’s own NBN policy, while almost unanimously derided in tech circles and on social media, has shifted the Coalition a vast distance from its previous fear and loathing of broadband and, while voters prefer Labor’s NBN, is likely to go a long way toward removing broadband as an impediment to voters switching to the Coalition. And Joe Hockey has demonstrated a firmer and firmer grasp of fiscal reality as his task beyond September 14 becomes clearer. His shift on surplus and his repeated rejection of austerity as a sound policy reflects Hockey’s growing stature as the likely safe pair of hands for economic management in a Coalition government. All of which suggests that when Coalition policy is developed in areas where Abbott has no interest, like economics or telecommunications, it’s more effective, but when he plays a strong role in policy development, the results are poor. It doesn’t augur well for a party likely to be given a strong mandate on September 14. [/quote] I'D RATHER LINK TO CRIKEY THAN SUPPORT THE MURDOCH LOT, IF POSSIBLE. REMINDER: STEPHEN MAYNE, JUNE 21ST 2012: [quote]Seven years later, [b]another feisty independent web publishing house has been sold, but this time the buyer is Rupert Murdoch, a proprietor with an unprecedented record of requiring and receiving loyalty and favourable editorial treatment from his employees. So what does this mean for Alan Kohler, Robert Gottliebsen and Stephen Bartholomeusz — the crack “KGB” team of commentators and inquisitors at Business Spectator —  who have all reportedly become instant millionaires courtesy of the generosity of News Corp’s $20 million-plus up-front cash payment for their business? Will these doyens of business journalism, who deliberately named their business Australian Independent Business Media, now pull their punches on News Corp’s appalling corporate governance, nepotism, stacked board, Murdoch family gerrymander, abuses of corporate power and industrial-scale criminality in the UK?[/b] The KBG will now be answerable to uber-Murdoch loyalist Chris Mitchell, who was quoted in The Australian today saying it was “great to have Alan and Gotty back at The Oz after so many years, and to welcome Steven to the paper. Being able to add them to the best columnist in the country, John Durie, has made my day.” [b]Alan Kohler is now the richest business journalist in Australia and in my view he and John Durie share top billing for quality, writing and insight. However, Durie has one substantial flaw: he covers corporate governance issues better than anyone but baulks at criticising News Corp. Sadly, this is the price you pay when you agree to take Rupert’s shilling. Most News Ltd business commentators through the years — Durie, Matthew Stevens, Terry McCrann, Bryan Frith, Michael West and Mark Westfield — have voluntarily submitted themselves to the culture of blind loyalty. I did it during my five years as a News Ltd business editor on the tabloids in Sydney.[/b] But in light of the unprecedented media ownership concentration in Australia and the enormous governance scandals that have engulfed News Corp over the past year, is this really an acceptable state of play in 2012? Will we even have a decent debate about the dominant newspaper group extending its dominance in pay TV as well, courtesy of the $2 billion Foxtel and Fox Sports bid?[/quote] http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/06/21/can-the-independent-kgb-survive-the-news-corp-gulag/ SIGH. I HOPE BERNARD KEANE ISN'T GOING TO JUMP SHIP AND WORK FOR MURDOCH...FULL-TIME. BUT SADLY...MONEY MAKES THE WORLD GO AROUND... N'

nasking

25/04/2013 Pikiranku, I RESPECT THAT YOU HAVE THE COURAGE TO AIR YOUR VIEWS...THOSE WHO CRITICISE YOU AND I...THOSE WOULD LIKE TO BAN OR CENSOR OUR WORDS...HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORD 'FREEDOM'... YES, PLENTY OF BRAVE AND FEAR-DRIVEN SOLDIERS FOUGHT AND MANY DIED TO PROTECT OUR FREEDOMS DURING WW1 AND WW2... AND PART OF THAT FREEDOM IN A FUNCTIONING, PARTICIPATORY DEMOCRACY IS TO QUESTION WHY WE FIGHT: Why We Fight (doco) describes the rise and maintenance of the United States military–industrial complex and its 50-year involvement with the wars led by the United States to date, especially its 2003 Invasion of Iraq. The documentary asserts that in every decade since World War II, the American public was misled so that the government (incumbent Administration) could take them to war and fuel the military-industrial economy maintaining American political dominance in the world. Interviewed about this matter, are politician John McCain, political scientist and former CIA analyst Chalmers Johnson, politician Richard Perle, neoconservative commentator William Kristol, writer Gore Vidal, and public policy expert Joseph Cirincione. Why We Fight documents the consequences of said foreign policy with the stories of a Vietnam War veteran whose son was killed in the September 11, 2001 attacks, and who then asked the military to write the name of his dead son on any bomb to be dropped in Iraq; and that of a 23-year-old New Yorker who enlists in the United States Army because he was poor and in debt, his decision impelled by his mother's death; and a female military explosives scientist (Anh Duong) who arrived in the U.S. as a refugee child from Vietnam in 1975. (Wikipedia) http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=BcuStxJHv4c&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DBcuStxJHv4c WAR HAS BEEN PRIVATISED. TOO EASY FOR THE SAME WAR-MONGERING PROFITEERS VIA THEIR CORPORATE MEDIA ALLIES TO CON AND MOBILISE THE PUBLIC YET AGAIN BY WAY OF CO-OPTING REMEMBRANCE DAYS TO PROMOTE FURTHER JINGOISM...AND PULL ON EASILY-IDENTIFIABLE WAR THEMES TO PROMOTE EXTREME NATIONALISM... AND IT DOESN'T TAKE MANY STEPS TO FIND THE MIXING OF WAR REMEMBRANCE WITH THE IDENTIFICATION OF COMMON ENEMIES AND PROMOTION OF WAR ICONS...AND THE FLAG BEING USED AS A MOBILISING AGENT...TAKING OUR YOUTH DOWN THE PATH TOWARDS YET ANOTHER CORPORATE WAR CATASTROPHE. AND YOU WON'T SEE THE MAJORITY OF THE MEGA-RICH JOINING UP...BUT RATHER REAPING THE REWARDS OF HORRIFIC CONFLICT...LIVE ON YER CABLE...ADS INCLUDED. WE WON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN. YEA...RIGHT. N'

lyn

25/04/2013Hi Talk Turkey, Thankyou for your treasured comment @ 10.43am. Your talent for writing is outstanding "breakfast smorgasbord " for me too. I do appreciate your support very much. Ad Astra sent me a lovely email from one of the bloggers Kate Ahearne: http://fairmediaalliance.wordpress.com/2013/04/24/standard-and-poors-threat-to-our-aaa-rating-more-neck-than-a-herd-of-giraffes/

DMW

25/04/2013Michael, that an Abbott administration could be a 'do nothing' government is gaining currency as mentioned in the link offered by Catching up @ 1:55 PM. There are inconsistencies with the claim that Abbott will take us back to time before the dark ages and claiming he will do nothing. If, in fact, he does 'nothing' then there will be no change and we will go on much as we have been no return to the dark ages. My comment last night had more to do with another quote that is offered in that Business Spectator article, [i]the left is building the prospect of an Abbott government up into a sort of monstrous reactionary ogre, [/i] which I only read a few minutes ago. There is an unhealthy obsession by some with Abbott and some strange need to constantly paint him as a buffoon and other not nice characteristics. He deserves a fair amount of ridicule but doing it to the point of obsession is self defeating. There is a reasonable argument that can be made that by doing this Labor are playing into his hands and are highlighting their own weaknesses and insecurities. While not a good illustration of the 'ogre obsession' a recent article by Andrew Leigh highlights the unhealthy obsession with Abbott. [b]Abbott’s no-go carbon plan[/b] Australian Financial Review, 22 April 2013 cross posted @ Andrew's blog http://www.andrewleigh.com/blog/?p=4069 Abbott is mentioned 9 times as is the word opposition 9 times. Liberal and Labor rate 3 each and government also three times, once generically, once as Labor Government and once [i]if he won government [/i]. Neither the prime minister or Greg Combet get a guernsey in the article. Like much that is written and spoken by members of the government there is plenty about why the opposition would be bad but little if anything on why Labor is or would be better. It is not election winning stuff.

Gorgeous Dunny

25/04/2013Great Post. It's a very long time since I read Bagehot (1963), but I have the feeling that the Abbott interpretation of "...duty to oppose..." is a slight misreading. My understanding was that its role as always as "Her Majesty's LOYAL Opposition". The type of nihilism that Credlin- Abbott have put up is more consistent with Tea Party tactics than constitutional history. There ought be an assumption that it is the alternative government. As such, it ought to present an alternative policy in addition to the one being criticised. This was certainly part of Whitlam's successful run as Opposition Leader. Manufacturing scandals with Thomson and Slipper aimed at forcing a fall of government may or may not work. They are not a legitimate weapon, however.

Michael

25/04/2013DMW, hi. Re your comment at 6:39PM above. Pity is, history is, elections aren't regularly won in this country, they are lost by incumbents that voters want to toss out and replace by a 'hero' figure like Hawke, or an anodyne 'don't scare the horses type' like Rudd presented himself - remember "Howard-Lite". Abbott wants to 'small target' himself in 2013. He can't be a hero because he polarises with his history, he can't escape his past. So now he talks about "growing", to become more anodyne by the 'nothing to see here' day. People in the mainstream press are starting to report him as looking "more Prime Ministerial" (whatever that actually is!?), which is the election run-up stage of the electoral cycle. That's his and his supporters'/framers/ "election winning stuff". Problem is, they chose in him someone who's incapable of delivering the sub-textural message that he actually is a real PM in the wings, because he signals rage, disgust, and impatience in every over-tautly constrained muscle of his face and body. He's a walking short fuse, and that is not what people want to hand national leadership to. They sense it, they see it. Mark Riley exposed it, Bernie Banton generated it into words out of him, perving on his daughters in bicycle-riding lycra displayed it on national television for us to see. Aussie Tony Abbott is as fair dinkum as an acacia seed-pod. And just as empty as last season's one. Whether we like it or not, parliamentary elections in this country have evolved/mutated into leaders focused contests. Abbott can't take scrutiny, which is why his handlers try to keep him away from it, and tutor him to say the same things under it. Neither technique leaves him anywhere to go when there's nowhere to go. That's when Mark Riley freezes him, Leigh Sales catches him out in extended interview last year, and even 'keep it fluffy' talk-show hosts like Lisa Wilkinson and Karl Stefanovic have exposed him as literally lost for words once the topsheet of his repeated lines is removed from the empty script beneath. The spotlight has to be kept on Abbott, the blowtorch as well, to test and test and test him for voters to see him and not the constant grabbag of phrases and stances. For Pete's sake, both will be there if he does become PM, and repenting in leisure will be way too late for the country then.

Shirley Green

25/04/2013I shall never take any notice of David Marr again since he made the statement on Q&A recently that Tony Abbott was a "man of immense charm." It seems that David Marr did not watch Question Time last year to have formed that opinion, or perhaps he is just naive or even quite stupid.

DMW

25/04/2013Michael, your observation that elections are usually lost by the incumbent is close enough for it to be a 'truth'. It would be reasonable to take that one step further and say that in the majority of cases when a government was re-elected it avoided defeat. This election will be a little different in that it is Abbott's to lose and should it go the other way Gillard will have definitely won it. Of the last four changes of government it a reasonable assesment that Hawke was definitely a 'messiah' and Rudd was a 'messiah lite'. Fraser was a 'saviour' but not a 'messiah' and Howard was a 'if we have to it might as well be him saviour'. Despite his religous roots Abbott does not stack up as a 'saviour' let alone a 'messiah'. At the moment I can't picture what event, or stream of events, that could occur which will trip Abbott up and cause him to 'blow the fuse' but it is still a better than even chance it will happen. The main handbrake on him 'blowing it' is that because his fellow LNP members want the win so badly and can already taste victory all of them are protecting him. I have no source for this (I should look) but I gather Malcolm Mackerras has said something along the lines that should Abbott become PM he is likely to end up being one of the shortest serving ones. Whether this is because he will go to an early double dissolution and lose or because he will be 'knifed', oops, replaced by his party, I don't know. I suspect the latter is more likely as once the Libs get to rest their bottoms on the treasury benches they won't want to give it up easily. [i]Update[/i] I did some googling and found this article by Mackerrass from February this year (not sure why I missed it) [b]Lessons from elections past[/b] [i]With three out of four predictions intact, I go for two more: an Abbott victory, but a short-lived one[/i] http://www.canberratimes.com.au/opinion/lessons-from-elections-past-20130210-2e6h8.html Mackerras says Abbott will lose a double dissolution election within a year of gaining office.

DMW

25/04/2013Hi Shirley Green, this being the first time I have seen a comment from you [i]Welcome to The Sword[/i] I have not met Mr Abbott but I have been told by people who have (not other pollies or jounos but 'real' people) that at a personal one on one level he is very charming and easy to talk with and nothing like the Question Time Monster. Equally I am told that the PM is also very charming and easy to talk to at a personal level and nothing like the school marm/wooden person she can appear to be when in front of a camera. I don't think it is schizophrenia but all successful pollies seem to have multiple personalities which I have personally witnessed with Fraser, Hawke, Hayden, Howard and a quite a few others.

Ad astra

25/04/2013Gorgeous Dunny Thank you for your complimentary remark. You are right – it is Her Majesty’s LOYAL Opposition, but Abbott’s loyalty is not to Her Majesty, only to himself. Shirley Green I think you have not commented here before, so welcome to [i]The Political Sword[/i] family. Do come again. David Marr is an enigma. I wonder how well his idea of ‘immense charm’ coincides with our own. And does the 'charm' he identifies equate with integrity and decency?

Curi-Oz

26/04/2013Shirley, my experience of men 'of immense charm' is that they often turn out to be con artists of one stripe or another. Given what Marr has written about Abbott in the past, I would not put it past Marr using the words he wields so carefully in his trade as writer in such a way that, while telling the complete truth, he is also signalling something else. Marr said he was fascinated by Abbott, I wonder having just reread the transcript of that QandA program again (http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/txt/s3727357.htm), if it is not the fascination of watching a train crash. Mr Abbott may be a man of imense personal charm, but it is known that he doesn't take kindly to loosing to women, or being confronted by difficult questions, or being truthful unless its "written in blood" (as per his Red Kev or original Leigh Sales interviews). Just recently there have been questions raised about the types of people who are employed to develop his policy and their presumptions about others and 'winning' in September, not to mention the incredible support and lack of scrutiny of any policy or behaviour that springs from the Coalition. I'm not so sure that Mr Marr was saying Mr Abbott has 'imense charm' as a necessarily positive thing, but with respect to his new book, it may be a flag that suggests that the charm may be concealing other attitudes that perhaps Mr Abbott either doesn't want to acknowledge or have acknowledged by others? Just a thought...

TalkTurkey

26/04/2013Nothing to do with Politics! This is for everybody who ever has a birthday! Do watch to the end - The last act is the amazingest. http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=S75gYhODS0M&feature=youtu.be

lyn

26/04/2013 Today’s Links BludgerTrack: 54.9-45.1 to Coalition by @PollBludger Since the immediate wake of the leadership crisis, Labor has recovered 2.1% on the primary vote and the Coalition has lost five on the seat projection after getting to within a hair’s breadth of triple figures four weeks ago http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2013/04/25/bludgertrack-54-9-45-1-to-coalition/ How Sales dropped the ball on Abbott by @MediaActive What can we say about such an empty interview? Has Sales personally or the 730 program generally lost their knack to scrutinize the man (and woman) competing for the prime ministership? If so, what veiled process has brought us to this? http://australiansforhonestpolitics.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/how-sales-dropped-the-ball-on-abbott/ Sales and Abbott by David Griffiths There was a problem, however, no follow-up. A good question received a vague assertion or a slogan that was not specific to the question and there was no follow-through by Leigh Sales. http://www.australiasmassmedia.com/2013/04/25/sales-and-abbott/ Herndon, Colbert and Abbott. or, the Recession we Didn't Have to Have by Aussie Magpie In a 13 minute interview, Abbott mentioned "SORE-plus" eight times... Phew! I feel better now that I know "good" economic management is on its way... http://aussiemagpie.blogspot.com.au/2013/04/herndon-colbert-and-abbott.html The slippery slope of sponsored content BY @timdunlop They lay claim to being the "fourth estate" but demand an accountability from others that they don't demand of themselves. Journalists who do speak out about the problems around paid content http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4650748.html Julia did not lie LINKS by Rod Fair Go http://rodfairgo.wordpress.com/2013/04/22/julia-did-not-lie-links/?blogsub=confirming#subscribe-blog While you were all concentrating on the mining BOOM, seems Australia was having another. by @AshGhebranious That’s about double the growth under the Howard period of government, and there are still three more years till 2016. More schools. More roads. More hospitals. http://ashghebranious.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/while-you-were-all-concentrating-on-the-mining-boom-seems-australia-was-having-another/ An Aussie hero accuses Murdoch media of bias by @btckr Mr Smith accuses Mr Williams of hypocrisy in his recent campaign for Press freedom. That was in relation to the four news media regulation Bills that the federal government so spectacularly failed to get passed http://truthinmediaresourcecentre.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/an-aussie-hero-accuses-murdoch-media-of-bias/ It is possible for inflation to fall too low. It has – Swan by @1petermartin So low has Australia’s rate of inflation fallen that the Treasurer is worried and the Reserve Bank is rethinking the economic outlook. http://www.petermartin.com.au/ Budget surplus suddenly out of political fashion by Ross Gittins will be about stopping the parties' expensive election promises making the budget deficit even bigger, not about getting back to surplus. In Abbott's case it will involve cutting away Labor's favourite programs and replacing them with his own. http://www.rossgittins.com/2013/04/budget-surplus-suddenly-out-of.html What I don’t like about ANZAC Day by @MigloMT My father spend 20 months in New Guinea fighting off the invaders in WW2. You’d hardly know he served, so little did he speak of it. http://cafewhispers.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/what-i-dont-like-about-anzac-day/ Moved By A Morning Of Memories by @archiearchive The gathering had begun well before I arrived at 4:15am.The first thousand were quietly walking towards the half-lit finger of granite which is our State War Memorial. http://archiearchive.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/moved-by-a-morning-of-memories/ The Young Diggers and the dogs of peace by @madwixxy On ANZAC Day, Peter Wicks takes a look at a terrific organisation that’s helping returned service personnel deal with post-traumatic stress and helps smooth their path back to civilian life. http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/life/health/the-young-diggers-and-the-dogs-of-peace/ “When I hear the word culture, I reach for my pun…” by rossleighbrisbane @MigloMT opposition education spokesman Christopher Pyne appeared to re-open the so-called ”history wars http://theaimn.com/2013/04/25/when-i-hear-the-word-culture-i-reach-for-my-pun/ The buried benefits of the NBN by @adriadf We’re going to need more than that capacity by 2020 and so what it means is the Coalition’s broadband network is likely to be obsolete by the time it’s completed or soon afterwards,” Tucker says. http://www.upstart.net.au/2013/04/25/the-buried-benefits-of-the-nbn/ Electricity price conundrum- the effect of renewables by @LarvatusProdeo Newman Government acted forthrightly to limit the FIT for new installations to a mere 8¢/kWh. We were told that that myth, perpetrated by Labor and the Greens, http://larvatusprodeo.net/archives/2013/04/electricity-price-conundrum-the-effect-of-renewables/ Today’s Front Pages Australian Newspaper Front Pages for 26 April 2013 http://www.thepaperboy.com/australia/front-pages.cf

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26/04/2013LYN'S DAILY LINKS updated: http://www.thepoliticalsword.com/page/LYNS-DAILY-LINKS.aspx

Truth Seeker

26/04/2013Morning swordsters, At the risk of being accused of flogging a dead horse, I have revisited the two year old annoyance of the alleged carbon tax lie in "T Abbott and the truth about lies" :-) Cos it really makes me frustrated how the lie is oft repeated without challenge. http://truthseekersmusings.wordpress.com/2013/04/23/t-abbott-and-the-truth-about-lies/ Cheers :-) :-)

Sir Ian Crisp

26/04/2013Great TS, but which part is true? [quote]“There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead,” conveniently leaving out the part after the comma, where she goes on to say “but lets be absolutely clear. I am determined to price carbon”. [/quote] By revisiting her confused state of mind only makes you appear to be as stupid as she is. It's a bit like saying I hate garlic but I can't wait 'til supper because garlic bread is on the menu. Pure folderol.

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26/04/2013Hi Lyn I probably won’t have a chance to read all your links until this evening as we are shortly getting on the road to Melbourne, but I have read [i]How Sales dropped the ball on Abbott[/i]. It is an excellent analysis, which exposes the intricacies of interviewing politicians, and how Leigh Sales let Tony Abbott control most of the interview through his use of clever words and avoidance techniques. She almost had him on the hook at several points in the interview, but let him slide off. The piece, by journalism academic Peter Clarke, is worth reading as an essay on interviewing strategies and the tactical use of words. It will take a while, but it is worth the time. http://australiansforhonestpolitics.wordpress.com/2013/04/25/how-sales-dropped-the-ball-on-abbott/

Tom of Melbourne

26/04/2013Do Australians for Honest Politics think it is OK for a Prime.Minister to be untruthful to another MP?

Crowey

26/04/2013ToM You are a lot like Abbott you're full of it.

Jason

26/04/2013Do Australians for Honest Politics think it is OK for a Prime.Minister to be untruthful to another MP? Who knows! Did Abbott's group of the same name think it was honest to raise funds and have two people gaoled for nothing? I hope Ettridge get the $1.5 million he wants to sue Abbott for.

DMW

26/04/2013The more things change ... via @Colvinius The more things change ... MT @Colgo: This is a United Australia Party flyer from 1943. http://bit.ly/10E2RCk reCaptcha: [i]toryode clear, [/i] yep, sums it up.

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26/04/2013Folks We are getting on the road now for Melbourne. I'll be back later.

nasking

26/04/2013 INDEED: “[b]After a lifetime of work and giving back to the community, we believe that our senior Australians deserve support and security in retirement,” Ms Macklin said. “We’re proud to have delivered historic reforms to the pension that since 2009 have seen a boost of $172 a fortnight for single pensioners and $182 a fortnight for pensioner couples on the maximum rate. “Our reforms represent the most significant changes to the pension system since its introduction more than 100 years ago and include the biggest ever boost to the pension, a new pension supplement, a new carer supplement, an improved indexation system and the introduction of the Seniors Work Bonus. “Australia’s 3.5 million pensioners have more money in their pockets because of the Labor Government – and that includes more than 28,000 pensioners in Hindmarsh. “And just last week we announced a reduction in pension deeming rates which will provide part-rate pensioners with an extra $6.80 per fortnight on average.” Local pensioners are also benefiting from extra payments through Labor’s Household Assistance Package. Single pensioners are getting more than $338 extra per year and couples are getting more than $510 extra each year, to help with the cost of living. Local Member for Hindmarsh, Steve Georganas, said the reduction in deeming rates will make life easier for more than 70,000 South Australian part-pensioners. “We understand that pensioners have limited room to move in their budgets which is why we’ve delivered reforms that make balancing the household budget that little bit easier,” Mr Georganas said. “Our improvements to the indexation system have been critical as they mean that when pensioners’ costs of living go up, the pension goes up with it. “Labor understands the pressures on pensioners and working families. In contrast, Tony Abbott plans to claw back support for pensioners and families. “Labor will keep delivering for local pensioners to make sure they get the fair go they deserve.”[/b] http://stevegeorganas.alp.org.au/news/2013/02/21/steve-supports-seniors-in-hindmarsh I WONDER HOW SENIORS ARE FAIRING IN THE UK RIGHT NOW? I WONDER IF THE BIG SOCIETY AND AUSTERITY MEASURES HAVE KEPT THEM WARM, FED AND CONTENT? N'

Capstan

26/04/2013How are all the Petrie dish dwellers this morning? Still all firmly in the grip of denial about everything? Still desperately believing that Gormless Gillard and her Clueless Clutch of Clowns will win the next election? What do you lot of rusted-on ALP types call yourselves? That's right - "The True Believers". Which, as a matter of interest, is a term stolen from the very beginning of the Canon of the Mass within the Catholic Latin Mass ("et omnibus orthodoxis" - "and all true believers")- a Catholic term that has existed since at least the Council of Trent (1545 - 1563) which formalised the structure of the Tridentine Mass. So there's your daily history lesson, lefty losers. Not that any of you dimwits will actually notice - talk about casting pearls before swine! Where was I? Oh yes. Tony Abbott and his supreme success as an Opposition Leader. So says Marr. I agree. Tony Abbott's performance as Opposition leader will only be surpassed by his performance as Prime Minister. A fact which is coming to a Federal Election near you! I can hardly wait. Neither can the rest of Australia. Anzac Day was excellent, as usual, by the way. Those of us who have served on active service got together with our mates and the friends and families who provided us with invaluable support whilst we were overseas, serving our country. Dunno what you bunch of deadbeats did – Anzac Day isn’t really a day for rusted on Commo leftards like all of you – is it? All the values WE share and are prepared to actually fight for – they’re not your values, are they? Which is why none of you have ever served on operations. I imagine you’d all feel a bit left out of things, I suppose. Which is only right and proper – you don’t belong there. Never mind – May Day will soon be here – you can all dust off your Commie flags and march as a very small group of comrades, bravely calling for the proletariat masses to rise and smash the ruling classes – “Come the revolution, Comrades!” – that sort of usual, tired tosh. Do not be disheartened by the fact that everyone else ignores you completely from totally consuming, bored disinterest. It’s nothing personal. It’s just that you’re all irrelevant and without point or purpose. Chin chin.

Michael

26/04/2013Capstan, spin on it.

nasking

26/04/2013 SO THE STRUGGLING WORKERS AND THE DISADVANTAGED IN THE UK HAVE TO COP THE BURDEN OF OUTSOURCING, PRIVATISATION AND CUTS CUTS CUTS... YET: [b]The Treasury is “unhealthily cosy” with the elite accounting firms that advise companies and Britain’s richest people how to avoid tax, Parliament’s spending watchdog will warn today. There is a conflict of interest because the “Big Four” firms of accountants use inside knowledge gained from seconding employees to the Treasury to “sell clients advice” on how to pay less tax. The tax authorities are outgunned by PwC, Deloitte, Ernst & Young and KPMG because the firms have four times as many staff advising multinationals on how to limit their tax bills as HM Revenue & Customs has working on tackling such avoidance. The firms employ 9,000 staff between them, including 250 specialists on “transfer pricing” to shuffle profits between different countries, while HMRC has only 65 staff working in this area and is “not able to defend the public interest”, the Public Accounts Committee points out. HMRC shows “continuing weakness” in the “never-ending game of cat and mouse” with the Big Four, which earn a total of almost £2bn a year from their UK tax work, the committee’s chairwoman, Margaret Hodge, said. “The large accountancy firms are in a powerful position in the tax world and have an unhealthily cosy relationship with government,” said Ms Hodge. “They second staff to the Treasury to advise on formulating tax legislation. “When those staff return to their firms, they have the very inside knowledge and insight to be able to identify loopholes in the new legislation and advise their clients on how to take advantage of them. The poacher, turned gamekeeper for a time, returns to poaching. This is a ridiculous conflict of interest which should be banned in a code of conduct for tax advisers.”[/b] http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tax-avoidance-hmrc-too-cosy-with-accountancy-giants-8588945.html POWER TO 'THE STRUGGLING MANY'! ...MAKE 'THE PRIVILEGED FEW' PAY THEIR FAIR-SHARE. N'

nasking

26/04/2013 THIS COULD HAPPEN TO CHINA...WE MUST BE PREPARED: [b]For the first time since modern statistics began, Spain reached the landmark figure of more than six million unemployed – or 27.16 per cent of the working population. And it did so with a vengeance, with a jump of 237,400 in the first quarter of 2013 to a record high of 6,202,700. Whichever way you look at them, the figures are spine-chilling: youth unemployment is running at 57 per cent; the jobless rate has risen by a shade under 20 percentage points since Europe’s fourth-largest economy began plunging into the worst recession in 50 years in late 2007... A continuous recession lasting 21 months has led to huge numbers of mortgage defaults: about 400,000 mostly residential properties have been repossessed and tens of thousands of Spaniards have received eviction orders. Meanwhile, a 30.4 per cent drop in property prices since 2007 has left many owing more than their homes were originally worth. Savings levels have dropped to their lowest in 13 years, and 52 per cent of 17- to 34-year-olds still live with their parents. It is true that, while politicians’ promises that the end of the recession is just around the corner sound increasingly hollow (the International Monetary Fund, for one, does not believe them, and predicts that Spain’s economy will shrink by 1.6 per cent this year), and support for the major political parties has slumped to less than 50 per cent of the total vote, protests have by no means reached the levels of violence seen in Greece. However, there are growing fears of a repeat of the scenes at one major anti-austerity protest in Madrid last September, which concluded with running street battles between police and demonstrators, and dozens of injuries and arrests.[/b] http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/spains-jobless-rate-soars-to-a-record-high-of-2716-per-cent-8588835.html THE ERA OF TAX CUTS MUST END. IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT BOTH ESSENTIAL SERVICES AND SMALL BUSINESS ARE GIVEN ROOM TO SURVIVE BY LARGE CORPORATIONS. IT IS TIME WE ENSURED 'THE MEGA-RICH' AND CORPORATIONS PAID THEIR FAIR-SHARE. WE CANNOT AFFORD ANOTHER HOUSING BOOM LOCKING PEOPLE INTO HUGE DEBT. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT OUR COUNTRY DIVERSIFY ASAP...CLEANER ENERGY, THE NBN, THE MODERNISED FILM & TV INDUSTRIES, ECO-TOURISM, ONLINE LANGUAGE TEACHING AND TUTORING, INDIGINEOUS BUSINESSES, ENVIRONMENT CARETAKING, SLOW FOOD COLLECTIVES, REFORMED DISABILITY SECTOR, HOME CARE, DIVERSIFIED POSTAL SYSTEM, GRAPHIC ARTS, ORGANICALLY GROWN PRODUCTS AND ONLINE BUSINESSES...ALL ESSENTIAL... FOR ONCE THE SH*T HITS THE FAN WHO WILL WANT TO VISIT...AND BUY FROM A TOXIC, MINING DIRTY, DEFORESTED, GAS FRACKED SPOILT WATER, COMMUNICATION BACKWATER??? THINK LONG-TERM. THE CHINESE MAY NOT ALWAYS HE ABLE TO BUY FROM US AS THEY NOW ARE...NOR VISIT. REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED TO JAPAN. JUST WHEN WE THOUGHT THEY OWNED THE WORLD...AND THEY WERE VISITING US EN-MASSE... COLLAPSE! RECESSION. SHORT MEMORIES... N'

Capstan

26/04/2013"The struggling workers!" "Power to 'the struggling many'!" Classic, classic leftard gibberish, 'Nasking - you make it such a predictable pleasure visiting here at irregular intervals! All this "class war" stuff - it's straight out of the 1930s, isn't it? Do you still wear a greasy, grubby flat cap? I bet you do! May Day, mate - it's coming! Your one big day of the year! When you and all your commie / socialist mates can have a huge whinge session about those who've done better in life than you (because they actually got off their arses and worked hard), including planning on how to take their money off them and give it to the "struggling many". Which no doubt includes you. Only it's not the "struggling many" any more - it's the "struggling few". Because this is Australia, mate, and there aren't very many who are too badly off. The good news for you, mate, is that your May Day gala dinner won't cost very much. That's because all you sad, sorry commo types can easily fit into a phone box. And still have room to spare. Happy May Day, comrade!

nasking

26/04/2013 YOU'RE AN IGNORANT, ARROGANT AND DECEITFUL CHARACTER CAPSTAN. I COME FROM A CONSERVATIVE MILITARY AND BUSINESS BACKGROUND. MY BUSINESSMAN FATHER...AND MY EXPERIENCE IN SMALL COMPANIES WHEN YOUNGER...TAUGHT ME THAT WHEN CAPITAL FLOWS EVER UPWARD TO THE FEW THE MANY DO NOT GET A FAIR AND LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. LATER AS A TEACHER I CAME TO RESPECT DIVERSITY IN SCHOOLS...AND HOW A LACK OF TARGETED FUNDING, MAINTENANCE, ARTS, TRAINING CENTRES, ACCESS TO ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY, IN-SCHOOL LITERACY AND NUMERACY ASSISTANCE FOR THE DISADVANTAGED AND AFTER-SCHOOL TUTORING KEPT SO MANY AUSTRALIAN STUDENTS FROM FULFILLING THEIR POTENTIAL. I HAVE AVIDLY SUPPORTED AUSTRALIAN SMALL BUSINESSES BY WAY OF PURCHASES AND FACEBOOK. WHEN I SEE CONTRIBUTORS SUCH AS YERSELF HIT THESE SITES ON A REGULAR BASIS I FEEL CERTAIN THE COALITION'S INTERNAL POLLS ARE SHOWING INCREASING PROBLEMS FOR ABBOTT AND CO. N'

nasking

26/04/2013 [b]All this "class war" stuff - it's straight out of the 1930s, isn't it?[/b] AS THE COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD CRASH YOU WILL SEE CAPSTAN THAT THESE RICH DYNASTIES AND TOO MANY CORPORATIONS HAVE NOT DONE THE WORKERS AND SMALL BUSINESS ANY FAVOURS. THEY STARTED THE WAR...WE INTEND TO WIN IT. N'

nasking

26/04/2013 LYN, THNX FOR THE USEFUL LINKS. THE TIM DUNLOP PIECE @ THE DRUM IS CERTAINLY WORTH READING. N'

Casablanca

26/04/2013[b]'Who will be the G.G?'[/b] The talented duo Shortis and Simpson brought the house down with this week's sing-a-long 'Who will be the G.G?' To the tune of Hunters and Collectors "Do you see what I see", Shortis and Simpson produced a satirical sing-a-long spectacular on 666 Breakfast. [quote][b]Who will be the G.G?[/b] Abbott was spewing foam When he heard the rumours fly PM to make the call on who'll replace Quentin Bryce He penned a furious letter Full of confected outrage In a quiet news week He had to take centre stage She can't pick the G-G [/quote] etc etc http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2013/02/08/3686153.htm

2353

26/04/2013The Ross Gittens piece in this morning's links is relevant and question ideologies in relation to economics. Well worth a read - thanks for sleuthing it out Lyn; much appreciated.

Patriciawa

26/04/2013Great news for Craig Thomson. Read http://wixxyleaks.com/2013/04/26/craig-thomson-fwa-update/ where wixxy reports on 80% of the Fair Work case against him collapsing. [quote]What this means is that FWA does not believe it holds enough evidence to mount a civil suit against Thomson on these matters, and will await the outcome of the criminal proceedings. If Thomson is aquitted in criminal proceedings then the whole matter is dead and buried and no further cases on these issues can be made against Craig Thomson.[/quote] His lawyer, Chris McArdle, is confident that criminal charges cannot succeed now and believes this is where the complete exoneration of Craig Thomson begins.

Capstan

26/04/2013So 'N turns out to having been a teacher! Well, that explains a lot! 50 years ago, teaching was an honourable profession, filled with admirable people whose values were clear and certain and of the highest value. Those traditional teachers ensured that students who finished school were capable of contributing to society from the moment they commenced either work or further studies. The left realised how crucial teachers were in the formation of young minds – and determined to fill the ranks of teachers with lefty ideologues who would corrupt western society from within. Which is why teaching rapidly became a venue for left-wing, ideological zealots whose single aim was to destroy the very same society in which they were raised. ‘Nasking was one of those “new wave” teachers. He probably came to teaching having failed miserably in small business. Like many others of his leftard inclination, he helped turn teaching from an honourable profession filled with commendable role models to an occupation of last resort from those failures within society incapable of getting a job even within the public service. So the product of ‘Nasking’s lifetime has been a steady stream of illiterate social derros who can’t contribute to society at all, who demand support from the public purse at every instance, who sneer at the traditions of society, whose social existences slide from de facto disaster to de facto disaster, whose legacy is aborted children or illegitimate children who don’t know their parents – all of whom do very little, if not a single thing, to help Advance Australia Fair. Good on you, ‘Nasking – your life of left-wing mediocrity has led to the poisoning of the tender lives of all those unfortunates who had the great disadvantage of having entered your “classroom”. Be proud of your life’s work as you don your greasy, grubby flat cap and attend the pathetically small May Day parade with the tiny few compatriots who constitute the ranks of today’s socialists and commos.

Curi-Oz

26/04/2013You know, one of the reasons that young people are less likely to use English correctly is because people like Capstan seem to think that children are mere cogs in the machine and should be treated as such. Hence the increasing insistance on standardised testing and teaching [b]TO[/b] the curriculum rather than [b]FROM[/b] it. Teaching requires an ability to empathise with young humans who have many different abilities at many different stages all within the one age cohort and influenced by different family backgrounds. If we really valued the future, we would resource public schools better than the private ones so that Australia could once again have the huge pool of informed people to draw on as we did before the rise of the conservatives and adoption of 'thatcherism' destroyed our common wealth. Teaching is still an honourable profession. The problem is that it creates questioning minds and some folk are just not comfortable with that idea.

nasking

26/04/2013 CAPSTAN, I TAKE IT FROM YER IDEOLOGICALLY PUERILE REMARKS THAT, LIKE THE LADY THATCHER, YOU WOULD APPROVE OF THIS MOVEMENT: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd4asTfRss8 PERHAPS YOU COULD START YER OWN NATIONAL FRONT PARTY HERE... GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO PRINT POSTERS BEARING SUCH HARMONIOUS MESSAGES AS: 'CUT THE THROATS OF THE LEFTARDS' AND 'CHUCK THE LEFTARDS TO THE TALIBAN', 'ABUSING A LEFTARD DAILY MAKES YOU FREER'... OR 'GOD IS AN ANALLY RETENTIVE BACK TO BASICS DISCIPLINARIAN LIKE ME' N'

Jason

26/04/2013I see our salvation army captian is back! I'll buy a copy of war cry tonight!

nasking

26/04/2013 BILL SHORTEN NOTED THAT ABBOTT IS DOING LOTS OF BACKFLIPS DURING THE ELECTION CAMPAIGN. GOING BY THE NEWMAN GOVT HERE IN QLD DON'T LNPers WAIT UNTIL THEY GET INTO GOVT BEFORE THEY START BACKFLIPPING. SEEMS THAT ANY POLICY ABBOTT TOUCHES TURNS TO POO. SEEMS TO BE AN ECONOMIC MORON. WHEN THEY WERE HANDING OUT THE RHODES SCHOLARSHIPS THE YEAR ABBOTT GOT HIS DID THE PANEL DECIDE THEY NEEDED A CATHOLIC BARE CHESTED SWEATY PUGILIST FROM OZ TO ENTERTAIN THE OXFORD BOYS BORED WITH TRASHING ROOMS AND PLAYING WITH EACH OTHER? N'

Jason

26/04/2013Insiders ABC‏@InsidersABC7h This week on #insiders @MichaelKeenanMP + panel @lenoretaylor @MikeSeccombe & Gerard Henderson. Talking pix w @mpbowers & @Jason_Chatfield

Catching up

26/04/2013One needs to remember at the time the PM is accused of that lie, Mr. Abbott had raised the prospect of having a straight carbon tax. Yes, it was in reply to Mr. Abbott comment, asking why not have a carbon tax, instead of a market based price on the emissions. Yes, ETS versus carbon tax.

nasking

26/04/2013 CHEERS JASON FOR THE INFO. 'MORE MISTAKES THAN A LEHMAN EXECUTIVE' HENDERSON SHOULD BE FUN TO WATCH. I'M SURE HIS MATES IN THE BOWELS OF 'NEO BEDWETTERS FOR A BIG BROTHER SECURITY APPARATUS FUTURE' WILL HAND HIM INFO ON A SECRET ISLAMO-FASCIST PLOT TO BLOW UP SENATOR BENARDI'S 'GEERT WILDERS' BLOW UP DOLL. N'

Catching up

26/04/2013"By revisiting her confused state of mind only makes you appear to be as stupid as she is. " How is addressing what was being discussed and raised by Abbott show a confused mind. Suggest that honour belongs to you. Yes, there is a difference, a big difference between a carbon tax and a market price on carbon emissions. That was the debate of the. Somehow now, the two are discussed as being the same. This is not surprising, as to do anything else makes nonsense of any lie. Of course it works, if one ignores a few inconvenient facts. Capstan, I respect your views, while disagreeing with most. I do not respect you fro your personal attacks on others who make comments here. The comments you make, tell us much about you, not the one you are attacking.

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26/04/2013Jason Thanks for the [i]Insiders[/i] participants. Politics took an interesting turn today, as nasking mentions, and with Clive Palmer throwing his hat in the ring the unexpected can be expected. That's for discussion tomorrow.

Catching up

27/04/2013Capstan, I find it pathetic that you believe we will all be that upset if Abbott wins. If that occurs, that wll be the will of the voter. That is democracy. Yes, I do believe that it will not be good for Australia, but that is my view. I will accept that what I want, the majority does not. I will then work twice has hard, to work for the return of Labor at the following election. No matter who is elected, it is only for three years. What I do not understand, is the contempt you hold all, who have different views. The question I ask you, is why all the hate and bitterness.

2353

27/04/2013CU - good question but I suspect you won't get a logical and rational answer. It is however time to dust this off for our slowly increasing band of negative ideologues - in itself a telling statistic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz2jbCJXkpA

lyn

27/04/2013Today’s Links There will be no Carbon Tax under a Government I lead but lets be absolutely clear I am determined to Price Carbon By @FairMediaAllian conveniently leaving out the part after the comma, where she goes on to say “but lets be absolutely clear. I am determined to price carbon”.’ http://fairmediaalliance.wordpress.com/2013/04/26/there-will-be-no-carbon-tax-under-a-government-i-lead-but-lets-be-absolutely-clear-i-am-determined-to-price-carbon/ Craig Thomson FWA Update by @madwixxy The criminal case against Thomson has been dealt a massive blow by this court action today, as the civil proceedings run to a vastly lower standard to criminal proceedings. The chances of Thomson being found guilty of any of these charges in a criminal court can now best be described as remote http://wixxyleaks.com/2013/04/26/craig-thomson-fwa-update/ Surveillance and investigative reporting- How would Deep Throat stay anonymous today by @JournLaw We might support shield laws for journalists and bloggers but the actual practicalities of protecting confidential sources are a huge challenge for journalists in the modern era. http://journlaw.com/2013/04/26/surveillance-and-investigative-reporting-how-would-deep-throat-stay-anonymous-today/ Palmer's Party Makes A Big Splash by @beneltham What impact might Katter and Palmer make south of the Tweed? Perhaps more than you might think. While the peculiar politics of Queensland – the home, let us remember, of One Nation – are the prime force driving the current proliferation of right-wing populism http://www.newmatilda.com//2013/04/26/palmers-party-makes-big-splash Tony Abbott’s shaky campaign by @independentaus the wheels started to fall off his campaign in the last few weeks? Running around the country with a booklet, pamphlet, brochure – whatever you want to call it – just doesn’t cut it. http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/politics/tony-abbotts-shaky-campaign/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=tony-abbotts-shaky-campaign Why I’m not a Conservative any more by @Jarrapin I had started reading conservatives thinking they wanted government so small it could drown in a bathtub. Instead, I found they wanted it kept bound in a gimp box, then unleashed in the dark http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/politics/why-im-not-a-conservative-any-more/ Queensland’s revenge- Palmer and Katter’s anti-systemic double act by @MarkBahnisch Professor Clive Palmer for PM. Combined with Katter’s Australian Party, the “United Australia Party” has the potential to throw a big spanner in the works, a much bigger threat to the speed of Tony Abbott’s march to the lodge http://larvatusprodeo.net/archives/2013/04/queenslands-revenge-palmer-and-katters-anti-systemic-double-act/ Should we spend more on healthcare- by @LarvatusProdeo According to their report, the increase in health care spending is not mostly being driven by the aging population; it’s because all of us, across all age groups, are receiving more health care. http://larvatusprodeo.net/archives/2013/04/should-we-spend-more-on-healthcare/ Reflected Glory by David Griffiths In 2006 when Parliament voted to strip then-Health Minister Tony Abbott of his power of veto on the drug. In 2009, a Queensland woman was charged with procuring her own abortion after she got RU486 from overseas relatives. And the perverse Contrarians congratulate Mr. Abbott – not the Federal Labor Government. http://www.australiasmassmedia.com/ Laughing at Clive Palmer? Let’s see who is laughing in a few months by @YaThinkN Mr Palmer is actually a very generous man who has helped a lot of charities, usually on the condition they keep their mouths shut, so this could actually be a civic move on his part, he could actually be doing what he says. http://yathink.com.au/article-display/laughing-at-clive-palmer-lets-see-who-is-laughing-in-a-few-months,68 Why business wants the carbon price to stay by Tristan Edis Direct Action is an unknown quantity. There is an incredible amount of confusion and doubt about how it will be implemented. The fact that Coalition party members have put out contradictory statements on the policy just adds to the confusion http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2013/4/26/policy-politics/why-business-wants-carbon-price-stay#ixzz2RXKSC4EU The Accord: we’re not in 1983 anymore by @MattCowgill http://mattcowgill.wordpress.com/2013/04/26/the-accord-were-not-in-1983-anymore/ Australia Considers Dropping The Price Of First Trimester Abortions By More Than $700 by Hayes Brown Under the proposed regulations, Australian doctors who wish to prescribe the pill would be required to take a specialized training, so doctors morally opposed to RU-486 may opt to simply not take the course. http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/04/25/1919791/australia-ru486-abortion-pill/ Curbing population to cut emissions lazy and damaging by @BernardKeane Advocates of curbing population growth as a means of reining in Australia’s greenhouse emissions ought to be careful what they wish http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/04/26/keane-curbing-population-to-cut-emissions-lazy-and-damaging/?wpmp_switcher=mobile ATO documents reveal "elevated" fraud and tax avoidance risk among 457 visa holders by @YolandaRedrup The Australian Financial Review reported this morning the Labor Party is planning advertisements focused on the targeting of 457 visas in the lead up to the election, as party research indicated the message resonated with voters. http://www.smartcompany.com.au/tax/055281-ato-documents-reveal-elevated-fraud-and-tax-avoidance-risk-among-457-visa-holders.html Opposition Leader Tony Abbott holds New Zealand up as a fiscal pattern card for Australia by @no_filter_Yamba Apparently Abbott believes that the New Zealand national economy is doing better than the Australian economy because the NZ Government is spending less, http://northcoastvoices.blogspot.com.au/2013/04/opposition-leader-tony-abbott-holds-new.html Direct Action called into question by Townsville Labor Business is currently urging the Coaltion to rethink its policy. The Energy Supply Association of Australia (ESAA) has urged the Coalition to revisit its energy and climate change policy, which currently includes abolishing the carbon tax. http://www.townsvillelabor.org/1/post/2013/04/direct-action-called-into-question.html Clive for Canberra by @TheHoopla The party would not be confined to Queensland, but would be nation-wide, and that he did not presume to know in which seat he would run. There were a number of high-profile Australians ready to join party and run also, he said. They would be announced next week. http://thehoopla.com.au/clive-canberra/ The reality of the energy future by @FifthEstateAU In this must read article of recent times, The Atlantic’s What if we never run out of oil?, canvassed the likely energy scenario that is likely to cosign our planet to the front burner, and the radical shift needed to avoid this. http://www.thefifthestate.com.au/archives/48240/ Today’s Front Pages Australian Newspaper Front Pages for 27 April 2013 http://www.thepaperboy.com/australia/front-pages.cfm

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27/04/2013LYN'S DAILY LINKS updated: http://www.thepoliticalsword.com/page/LYNS-DAILY-LINKS.aspx

lyn

27/04/2013Good Morning Ad, Paperboy is not working again. Working from my draft and also from my desktop shortcut. Message tells me it is a server problem. Trying again: Australian Newspaper Front Pages for 27 April 2013 http://www.thepaperboy.com/australia/front-pages.cfm

lyn

27/04/2013Still not working. One more try http://www.thepaperboy.com/australia/front-pages.cfm

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27/04/2013Hi Lyn Paperboy seems to be working now on all the links you have posted. I'll leave them all there just in case one fails. I've sent you an email just now.

Michael

27/04/2013In the light of Abbott recently telling a public forum that some of the things a government of his would do economically would "hurt" the Australian people, this story from the New York Times, http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/26/opinion/krugman-the-one-percents-solution.html?src=ISMR_AP_LO_MST_FB which includes the quote "redemption through suffering" in a telling sequence, nails just how First World One Percenters worldwide share a worldview with this country's conservatives. In their ilk, Abbott's fundamentalist religiousity is married to the self-righteousness of the wealthy, and he's setting out to hurt everyone in this country BUT the wealthy. The load of economic redemption will be shared out across 99% of our population, becoming heavier the closer it reaches the bottom. Do read the article, do follow the links embedded in it - they reveal the barren hollowness at the base of what the Conservatives plan economically (and, of course, consequentially, socially) for Australia. But more importantly they reveal the electric readiness with which those who propose such plans are prepared to lie and fake figures/processes/results to ratify a 'philosophical' position based on no true ideas at all, but actually rooted in soaked-in-cologne but still nostrils-wrinkling stinking disdain, disgust, and fear of the common man, woman and child. Us.

Catching up

27/04/2013Obviously some never read what we write, only see what they want. I see no suggestion here, that any do not see the real world. We do, and many do not like what is coming. I am not out to demonised Abbott. He is doing a good enough job of that himself. What intrigues me, is that he is indeed an enigma. A supposedly intelligent and educate men, that talks to us like a three year old. Every day, he is out with his simple message, mostly motherhood statements, and little context. It has been the same message for over three years, repeated word for word. What I see does not gel. Why the panicked and desire to have that election a month earlier. Does not make any sense, if he is as far ahead, that many claim. Why bring about political instability by interrupting the budget session. What does Abbott has to gain, by bringing the elect on earlier. Could it be he fears the budget, and wants to do all he can, to not have to go to the election with fully costed policies. Yes, I find most of the actions and words of Abbott, confuse me. No, the man does not frighten me. I say this, as I do not believe he will be around long. Cannot see business tolerating him for long. What does frighten me, is not knowing who is pulling his strings. Who will take over from Abbott. Abbott's job is to win, but not rule. What frightens me, is that there is much we do not know. Every day we get a new version of his policies. Anyway, they all carry caveats, that there will be white papers or further resear5ch, after election, to decide whether he goes ahead. Timetable for all, except one, is somewhere off in the distant future. The only real promises are what he is going to dismantle or destroy. It appears that is all that Labor has achieved over the last two terms. He is indeed going to be a busy boy.

bob macalba

27/04/2013Its back again, http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/who-knows-pm-julia-gillard-is-under-investigation/story-e6frg6z6-1226630319702 headly tomarse is at it again, this guy is an absolute tosspot

Sir Ian Crisp

27/04/2013[quote][b] So 'N turns out to having been a teacher! Well, that explains a lot! Capstan [/b][/quote] The evidence suggests otherwise. Are universities handing out qualifications to people for merely turning up to lectures? [quote][b] THNX FOR THE USEFUL LINKS. ...REWARDS OF HORRIFIC CONFLICT...LIVE ON YER CABLE... ...FOR ONCE THE SH*T HITS THE FAN WHO WILL WANT TO VISIT... ...THIS ONE IS FOR TONY ABBOTT...THE DICKHEAD... ...1.5 BILLION EASY THO FOR THEM TO FEAR AND NOD THO WHEN... nasking [/b][/quote] Is 'tho' a word?

Sir Ian Crisp

27/04/2013[quote][b] [...] FURTHERMORE, QLD LABOR UNDER BEATTIE & BLIGH ENSURED THAT TEACHERS GOT A HALF-DECENT WAGE...A LONG WAY FROM THE PALTRY AMOUNT I RECEIVED DURING MY TEACHING YEARS UNDER THE NATIONAL PARTY...AND SADLY ALPer GOSS...THAT WAS A REAL STRUGGLE. [..] Nanking [/b][/quote] [quote][b] SIGH. I HOPE BERNARD KEANE ISN'T GOING TO JUMP SHIP AND WORK FOR MURDOCH...FULL-TIME. BUT SADLY...MONEY MAKES THE WORLD GO AROUND... N' nanking [/b][/quote] It seems quite acceptable for some people to accept money for their labour but others receive a jibe for doing the same. AA, I have discovered another TPS whited sepulchre.

bob macalba

27/04/2013Folks i dont know why you bother with the trolls they only seek to distract, facts confuse them so they try to make up that weakness with mendacious crap, and more importantly as far as trolling goes these guys are pissweak amateurs, starve them i say cheers

Sir Ian Crisp

27/04/2013As one bookmaker said to me the other day: "There is no law against mugs throwing their money away". That same bookie said he still laughs so hard he wets himself thinking of how idiots and money soon part company.

Jason

27/04/2013Sir Ian, Or as Albo said last night! Anthony Albanese ‏@AlboMP15h An awesome game between 2 great sides was just cheapened by the appearance of Tom Waterhouse #NRLManSou #gorabbitohs

Catching up

27/04/2013It appears that Abbott is now going to listen to the experts. It appears, according to Sidnonis, that is what he does always. Then we can assume he will listen to the three experts appointed, to find a solution to stop refugees coming by boat. I take it, that Abbott has already penned a letter to the PM, calling on her to put the whole Housten plan into operation. He will agree with the experts, t6hat turning boats back will not work, and is not the answer. We can assume, he will listen to 97% of the world's scientist, and fully back the CEF and all that it entails. Will listen, when the experts tell us, it has only a small, very small effect on the economy. Of course he will come on board and agree that the economy is not broken, that we are travelling well. Most of all, he will agree, that there is more to discussing the economy than debt and deficits. That debt and deficit mean little wit9in themselves. Mr. Abbott will get behind the Gonski plan of funding education, because all t6he experts say the present system is unfair and broken. Yes, I believe we will see pigs flying, pink pigs at that, across the sky.

Janet (jan@j4gypsy)

27/04/2013 A bit of a weekend dip into Twitterworld peoples, just in case the footy has left you, well, either profoundly saddened or … euphoric in a most unseemly fashion. A bit of @bushfirebill today because he's been quite ropeable about Tony Wright's latest! [b]Twitterati[/b] [i]Bushfire ‏@BushfireBill[/i] . @j4gypsy "Tony Wright Culture". Views himself as a typical "Cynical journo"... then complains about cynical journos! Blames govt., natch. [i]Ben Eltham ‏@beneltham[/i] @j4gypsy I have to say, with my journalism, I'm not particularly interested in internal party dynamics. Policy is more important [i]Kelly ‏@MsKelaby[/i] Abbott at his very US style campaign rally in SA made sure he had mostly female supporters seated behind him. #auspol [i]Geoff Pearson ‏@GCobber99[/i] Watching the Lib party campaign launch, Abbott rewriting history telling blatant lies making up numbers imitating Mitt Romney USA Abbott [i]John ‏@JDK_au[/i] Abbott is looking worried, guess Clive is polling well. #auspol [i]Barry Tucker ‏@btckr[/i] Has anyone seen Chifley Research Centre people on ABC TV programs, or ABC radio? [b]Twitterverse[/b] [i]Bushfire ‏@BushfireBill[/i] Tony Wright whinges over the PM's not taking #auspol journalists into her confidence. Look in the mirror, Tony http://pbxmastragics.com/2013/04/26/thank-goodness-its-friday-raffles/comment-page-3/#comment-45113 … [i]james ‏@dotrat[/i] http://www.canberratimes.com.au/opinion/politics/something-has-been-broken-at-the-heart-of-politics-20130426-2ik0p.html … short version: PM didn't 'sell' China deal because no media plane ride home. Pathetic? [i]Bushfire ‏@BushfireBill[/i] First we had a Carbon Market, now Barry O'Farrel turns Trash into Treasure with his Garbage Market. #Auspol rejoices. http://pbxmastragics.com/2013/04/26/thank-goodness-its-friday-raffles/comment-page-3/#comment-45144 … [i]David Marler ‏@Qldaah[/i] @geeksrulz #qldpol #auspol BREAKING: LNP have settled differences over Bruce Hwy. New policy released: http://ht.ly/ktB0A  [i]Robert Nelson ‏@R0Bsez[/i] If it's true that social media make us politically engaged—http://pewinternet.org/Reports/2013/Civic-Engagement.aspx …—a public is possible, atomized but still alive. [i]Marion Groves ‏@MarionGroves[/i] Dick Smith tells Rupert Murdoch (in a nutshell) that he's a greedy cheapskate who should give more to the poor. http://bit.ly/ZUtD2f  Robert Maxwell ‏@RobMax4 A Million Dollars A Week http://www.theglobalmail.org/feature/a-million-dollars-a-week/600/ … via @TheGlobalMail [i]Leroy ‏@Leroy_Lynch[/i] One nation united under Clive - Prof Clive Palmer says he wants to be PM. Theoretically, what would happen? http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2013/4/27/politics/one-nation-united-under-clive … #auspol [i]Glowworm ‏@Glowworm532[/i] Jacqueline Maley: Don't expect Abbott to self-immolate. He's a new man. He's growing into PM-ship. He says so. http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/abbott-has-moved-on-from-playing-the-clown-20130426-2ijzo.html … [i]Sandra ‏@abissicus[/i] Fresh concerns on Liberal GST plans http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-04-26/fresh-concerns-on-liberal-gst-plans/4654680?section=tas … @abcnews ...as @tonyabbottmhr walks away yet again from presser. #hubris [i]Zac Spitzer ‏@zackster[/i] Oh look a @smh (AAP) story on @DobellThommo doesn't quote him (despite photo) coz his quotes doesn't fit their agenda http://www.smh.com.au/act-news/mp-thomson-granted-partial-stay-in-civil-case-20130426-2ikfd.html … [i]margo kingston ‏@margokingston1[/i] With Barry's help Julia can snooker Tony on Gonski http://wp.me/p2YeRx-16I  by @DamienCWalker Even Labor can't stuff this up, Damien? [i]Helen Errington ‏@HelenErrington1[/i] Yet Another Study Shows Low IQ And Right-Wing Ideology Go Hand-In-Hand http://p.ost.im/p/dXLf4P  via @AddInfoOrg This makes sense! [i]Liv ‏@mmechomski[/i] Brilliant deconstruct of #Rudd whiteanting @JuliaGillard aided & abetted by journalists, esp Harcher & Oakes #auspol http://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2013/may/1366954718/erik-jensen/kevin-rudd-s-unrelenting-campaign-regain-power … [i]Des Egan ‏@egan_des[/i] Imagine if PM Gillard walked away from media questions like Abbott. Abbott looking deranged in this video. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-04-26/fresh-concerns-on-liberal-gst-plans/4654680 … #Auspol

nasking

27/04/2013 SIR IAN CRISP, RESIDENT BLOWHARD WITH A DEGREE IN POMPOSITY... BOB MACALBA IS RIGHT...YOU ARE A DISTRACTION... LIKE A BLOB OF CHEWING GUM ON THE SHOE OF SOMEONE MAKING THEIR WAY TO AN IMPORTANT EVENT...A PAIN IN THE BUTT...BUT FOR THE TIME BEING WE ARE FORCED TO PUT UP WITH YOUR MESS UNTIL TIME IS FOUND TO REMOVE YOU. SHAME THAT WHOEVER ORIGINALLY CHEWED YOU UP AND SPAT YOU OUT DIDN'T STICK YOU UNDER A BRIDGE SOMEWHERE SO YOU COULD LIVE OUT YER DAYS SNARLING AND SNIPING AT PASSERSBY. N'

nasking

27/04/2013 GOOD JOB JANET! Kelly ‏@MsKelaby [b]Abbott at his very US style campaign rally in SA made sure he had mostly female supporters seated behind him. #auspol [/b] BERLUSCONI ENJOYED RALLYING WITH LOTS OF WOMEN AROUND TOO...AND WE ALL KNOW HOW THAT TURNED OUT FOR THE LADIES. BUNGA BUNGA!!! PERHAPS WE'LL GET SMUGGLA SMUGGLA!!! N'

nasking

27/04/2013 INTERESTING COMMENT BY A NEW ZEALANDER: [b]Leon D (New Zealand) 11:20 AM Sunday, 24 Mar 2013 All growth in nz goes to Foreign Owned Co's as profit. $15.8 Billion Foreign Owned profit last year. And hardly a word from our " * "con"* "mist" s. Why the pathetic commentary on this devastation to our economy. Answer is simple. They are in on the deal, with their Foreign kickbacks after they leave politics. Look at whitehead, ex nz Treasuruer, now with imf. Look at Shipley, Bank of China Director. No wonder we can't have an audit of the Overseas Investment Rules. We are road blocked by people ex nz leaders and current leaders with much more to gain than a Politicians salary. Why is an oz bank running $70 Billion per year Govt Finances when we have our own nz owned banks that should be earning the Transaction fee profits. Who is ex Minister National S Power working for, Westpac. Soe's were told to borrow more by the same. How many new loans from soe's came from Westpac before he got his new $1 Million a year job with them ? Answers, investigate, please. 19 likes[/b] AND...FROM THE ORIGINAL ARTICLE: [quote]The Australian economy has created 676,600 new jobs while the New Zealand economy has lost 22,800 over the past four years. There has also been a substantial loss of manufacturing jobs across the Tasman but this has been more than compensated by increased employment in healthcare and social assistance, which created 222,800 new jobs over the past four years, professional, scientific and technical services, which has added 143,200 new jobs, education and training 109,300 and mining with an additional 97,700 careers. Australia is creating more professional, scientific and technical jobs and this is attracting highly educated immigrants from around the world, including New Zealand.[/quote] http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10873028 Hmmm... LYN, WORTH READING ARTICLE ON NZ ECONOMY @ NORTH COAST VOICES. CHEERS N'

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27/04/2013Janet Great Twitter talk. Many thanks.

Sir Ian Crisp

28/04/2013[quote][b]Sir Ian, Or as Albo said last night! Anthony Albanese ‏@AlboMP15h An awesome game between 2 great sides was just cheapened by the appearance of Tom Waterhouse #NRLManSou #gorabbitohs Jason [/b][/quote] Bad form JGuy. Quoting Albanese is disturbing because most of the time he has no idea what he is saying.

Sir Ian Crisp

28/04/2013[quote][b] SIR IAN CRISP, RESIDENT BLOWHARD WITH A DEGREE IN POMPOSITY... BOB MACALBA IS RIGHT...YOU ARE A DISTRACTION... LIKE A BLOB OF CHEWING GUM ON THE SHOE OF SOMEONE MAKING THEIR WAY TO AN IMPORTANT EVENT...A PAIN IN THE BUTT...BUT FOR THE TIME BEING WE ARE FORCED TO PUT UP WITH YOUR MESS UNTIL TIME IS FOUND TO REMOVE YOU. SHAME THAT WHOEVER ORIGINALLY CHEWED YOU UP AND SPAT YOU OUT DIDN'T STICK YOU UNDER A BRIDGE SOMEWHERE SO YOU COULD LIVE OUT YER DAYS SNARLING AND SNIPING AT PASSERSBY. N' nasking [/b][/quote] Glass jaw Nanking? You can dish it out but you can't cop it. We know the title that goes with that don't we. Remember what the SA Gobbler said: "Fun with trolls". You don't seem to be enjoying yourself. Are you thinking the cause is lost perhaps? Remember this: [quote][b]Sir Ian Crisp, I have no probs with yer moniker... you could call yerself Sir Full Ofit for all I care. Spray like a cat...it's yer choice... Nothing will change the fact...the Coalition have stuffed up bigtime...virtually impossible for them to pull outa the dive now. They just don't have the experts with imagination to do it. Watched Contrarians the other night...example of the smug condescending idiots that dominate the right-wing of politics...and the pretenders' wing. If the Coalition keep heeding the old guard...the likes of Jones, Murdoch, Howard, Abbott, Krogers, Henderson, Bolt, Akerman, Singleton, recruited Paul Kelly, and so many other painful bores and ocker thugs yer gonna get yer asses kicked. Yer surrounded. Ya just don't know it yet. BTW...ya know the Tea Party?...we pushed the RIGHT into creating it...in order to blow off so much steam during the mid-term election it would leave the Republicans divided in the long run...pushed to the extreme Right. I larfed and larfed. Even Morris and Rove didn't get it. Hook, line and stinker. N' nasking [/b][/quote] You don't seem to be 'larfing and larfing' now. Dry your eyes princess.

TalkTurkey

28/04/2013Hello-o-o-o-oh? Just doesn't seem much that that must be said more than any other. Not that nothing needs saying, au contraire. It just feels a bit like a phoney war atm. A lull before the storm certain to follow the budget all the way to the Ides of September. Comrades Remember the Ides of September! Recaptcha : gedynda the ...(what?)

nasking

28/04/2013 [b]You don't seem to be 'larfing and larfing' now.[/b] AU CONTRAIRE :D TICK TOCK... N'

TalkTurkey

28/04/2013Cannabis an anticarcinogenic agent - right across the spectrum of cancers. Oh that's right it's illegal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh2qd_foV-4&feature=youtu.be

nasking

28/04/2013 THE UK LIBERTARIAN, ABBOTT, MURDOCH AND CONSERVATIVE THINK TANK STYLE: [quote]A series of leaked emails between key figures in Ukip reveals growing chaos at the heart of the party as it struggles to fill a policy vacuum just days before crucial local elections in which it is expected to make spectacular advances. In one email, a senior party figure claims that leading the anti-EU party is like "herding cats". Ukip leader Nigel Farage is warned that his party is facing a decade without credible policies, as crippling internal rows rage, and it is suggested that the party should consider buying off-the-shelf strategy from right-leaning thinktanks. Senior members must "get off their hobby-horses" if the party is to develop policies, Farage is told in the bombshell emails from Stuart Wheeler, the party's treasurer, and Godfrey Bloom, a leading Ukip MEP. A despairing Bloom, writing last Thursday, warns: "My experience thus far is that as soon as more than two people get in a room progress completely stops. Even where we have experts of our own, they disagree." Bloom suggests the party should now consider buying policy "off the shelf" from thinktanks to lend it some credibility rather than attempting to "reinvent the wheel" by devising party positions on the major issues of the day. Wheeler, a former Tory donor who gave £5.5m to the Conservatives in 2001 before being expelled for also donating to Ukip, responds: "I could not agree more strongly that some people will have to get off their hobby-horses." Details of the party's internal crisis are revealed today as Ukip prepares to field an unprecedented 1,217 candidates in Thursday's local elections. The party is unlikely to return large numbers of councillors but Downing Street fears it will deprive the Tories of victory in many seats and be the cause of major trouble for David Cameron's leadership. Along with its strong anti-European Union message and calls for a hardline on immigration, Ukip is campaigning heavily on issues likely to appeal to wavering Tories, including opposition to green belt development, wind farms and a second high-speed rail line. However, the party's manifesto is vague on details as it attempts to appeal to the broadest audience, including disaffected Labour and Liberal Democrat voters. The emails leaked to the Observer illustrate how powerless the party is to build a manifesto as it attempts to please its politically divergent support. Bloom says the party's policies are "naturally coming under more scrutiny" as it grows, but warns Farage of the inability of members to agree on policy lines. Bloom, who also complains that whatever the party says on tax and the economy will "be sneered at or decried", writes: "The charm and frustration of Ukip is we have doctors who fancy themselves as tax experts, painters and decorators who know all about strategic defence issues and … retired dentists who understand the most intricate political solutions for the nation. "Our website will have no policies at all on there for 10 years if we adopt a neo-Byzantine approach to formulating them. This means some quite senior members are going to have to stable their hobby-horses." The former financial economist also reveals a split between the old stalwarts of the party, formed in 1993 in response to the Maastricht treaty, and the new members who he fears are introducing "political correctness" among other "main party baggage". Ukip is said to be picking up 1,000 extra members a month, with membership now exceeding 25,500. Bloom writes: "Having worked on the defence paper for over one year it would appear Ukip has more military and naval experts than we have soldiers. Most of them do not agree with each other. It is like herding cats. We are also attracting new members who bring main party 'baggage'. Focus groups, quotas, even political correctness. "We must be wary of listening to these siren voices. We did not get where we are today by following, but leading." Bloom claims that he has been in talks with two free-market thinktanks, the Institute of Economic Affairs, and Civitas, whose policies he suggests "buying off the shelf where it is close to our own small government, low tax, libertarian position". The Ukip MEP, who admits in the emails that his party "do not have the resources to write serious papers on major subjects", adds: "If Nigel, or indeed any of the 'frontbench' spokesmen talk of welfare or tax, the endorsement of such institutions is a very strong shield from the sort of dismissive left wing interviewers with whom we usually cross swords. "Imagine Nigel in a hostile (oh yes it will be) interview with a 'Paxman', being able to say "Yes it will work, our policy has been completely vetted and endorsed by........" fill in the blank, Civitas, IEA, IOD, BMA, RCN etc..."[/quote] BIDES WELL FOR AUSTRALIA. CONSIDERING THE AUSSIE ADVISORS AND THINK TANK INPUT OVER THERE. BUT HERE WE'LL ALSO GET A [b]HOLY MESS[/b]...ADDED TO THE CONFUSION. [b]WHEN YOU GET BUSINESS GREEDSTERS IN THE SAME BED WITH RELIGIOUS ODDBALLS AND OLD TIME PROTESTANT ETHIC CONSERVATIVES AND IRRESPONSIBLE FREE MARKETEERS AND LOONY WAR ON TERROR ENTHUSIASTS AND SOCIAL AGRARIANS, COW COCKY PROTECTIONISTS AND SOME OF THE RICHEST MACHIAVELLIAN SCROOGES ON THE PLANET ADD THE MOST OPPORTUNISTIC CHAOS CREATING MEDIA MOGUL IN HISTORY...AND A MAN WHOSE AMBITION IS TO BUILD ANOTHER [i]TITANIC[/i]... DISASTERS ARE INEVITABLE. AUSTRALIA'S RIGHT-WING...ONE GREAT BIG SPLODGE.[/b] GRAB SOME POPCORN AND ENJOY THE SHOW. N'

Austin 3:16

28/04/2013Meh, bleach would kill cancer cells too I suppose we should all drink it ? http://www.labnews.co.uk/news/cannabis-destroys-cancer-cells/ [quote]Dr Wai Man Liu, explains: “It is important to stress that these cannabis-like substances are far removed from the cannabis that is smoked. These novel compounds have been specifically designed to be free of the psychoactive features, whilst maintaining anti-cancer action.”[/quote]

TalkTurkey

28/04/2013Abbortt is paid $345 per day for charitably riding in Pollie Pedal to raise money for indigenous causes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVjXW0Ox60M They call me the Moonlight Rider: I ride in the Pollie Pedal Ba-ash: But I never ride for the charity that hires me, I just ride for good ol' cold cash! You may ride cos you love it, You may ride for your health; On a rough mountain track or the mall; But if you haven't ridden to increase your wealth Then you're no moonlighter at all! Original Lyrics (1956) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh2qd_foV-4&feature=youtu.be

nasking

28/04/2013 TOP POEM TT. ALSO, I RECKON IT'S A DISGRACE THAT ABBOTT PURPORTS TO RIDE FOR CHARITY...YET LOOKS LIKE A CORPORATE BILLBOARD...AND USES THIS SO CALLED 'CHARITABLE EFFORT' TO CAMPAIGN AND SPRUIK HIS PARTY AND POLICIES. AND AS YOU APTLY REMIND US TT...HE GETS PAID. TONY ABBOTT IS A DECEITFUL OPPORTUNISTIC FLIP FLOPPER. NOT SURPRISED HE'S SUPPORTED BY MURDOCH. N'

nasking

28/04/2013 MIGHT ADD...AFTER I RETIRED FROM TEACHING I PAINTED SCHOOL CLASSROOMS...AND HELPED MOW, WEED AND MAINTAIN A SCHOOL GARDEN. FOR NO PAY. UNLIKE CERTAIN 24-7 SCHEMING, INSINCERE RIGHT-WINGERS...I DO HAVE MY ALTRUISTIC MOMENTS. N'

Catching up

28/04/2013Abbott began his political spin yesterday in SA with this story. Which by the way did not seem to fit into what he was doing. Said that he was late for his first cabinet meeting. Guess why, he got a call to fight a fire. Turned up dirty and smelling of smoke. Was told he was now a cabinet minister, that came first. Abbott told them he was human, and doing human things came first. (Words to that effect). He then went on with his well worn and boring speech. As the announcer said, when he finished. Nothing new. Pity he could not be dirty and smoky when he pulled the fire fighting stunt, earlier this year. I note there is another charity bike run on, which is covering much the same route. Does not appear to be any politics in that one. Notice the media puts it on, before Abbott's effort. How is making it something one loves, a sacrifice.

nasking

28/04/2013 [b]RShavkulovich : Australian Crime Commission would end drugs in sport probe under an Abbott government | : Libs Michael Keenan to allow sports drugs![/b] AHHH, WE ALL REMEMBER THE HOWARD YEARS WHERE DRUGS IN SPORTS WAS NOT PROPERLY INVESTIGATED... AND TOBACCO COMPANIES WENT BERSERK... AND GAMBLING PROFITEERS INFILTRATED EVERYTHING... AND MURDOCH'S EMPIRE GREW LIKE THERE WAS NO TOMORROW... AND SHONKY REAL ESTATE CONSULTANTS AND FINANCIAL ADVISORS WENT WILD... AND CHEAP TOXIC GOODS WERE DUMPED...EVERYWHERE...INCLUDING ON THE CHILDREN... AND CRUEL CATTLE LIVE EXPORTS WENT THRU THE ROOF... WHILST RELIGIOUS PEDAS PREYED AND WERE HIDDEN AND SHIFTED AND JUSTIFIED... AHHH...THE GOLDEN YEARS EH? PLUS CE CHANGE MR. KEENAN...PLUS CE CHANGE IT SEEMS. N'

TalkTurkey

28/04/2013Austin 3.16 Please feel free to drink bleach.

nasking

28/04/2013 HOWARD EVEN LET ABC CHILDCARE ACT LIKE A GREEDY FREAK STUFFING ITS FACE UNTIL IT EXPLODED. AND HOUSE PRICES WENT UP AND UP AND UP... LIKE THE INTEREST RATES EVENTUALLY DID...UP AND UP AND UP... SO, IT WAS TOTALLY OUT OF CHARACTER FOR HOWARD TO STOP THOSE WHO WANTED TO RUN WILD AND RAMPANT... GUNS. EVEN RIGHT-WING GOVTS HAVE THEIR SOBER, RATIONAL MOMENTS. SHAME ABOUT THE REST. N'

Truth Seeker

28/04/2013Hey Swordsters, just thought I would let you know that I have just posted my latest poem "Tpny Abbott's Character". As Abbott has made character an issue, I thought it would be good to look at hi character or lack thereof. :-) http://truthseekersmusings.wordpress.com/2013/04/28/tony-abbotts-character/ Cheers :-) :-)

nasking

28/04/2013 [b]Notice the media puts it on, before Abbott's effort.[/b] CU, THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA HAVE BEEN PRESENTING ABBOTT AS A SAINT AND HAVING ORGASMS OVER HIM EVER SINCE RUPERT SENT OUT THE MEMO: [quote]MAKE THIS CLOWN ABBOTT LOOK LIKE SAINT SUN SHINES OUT OF HIS ASS...SIGNED HE WHO MUST BE OBEYED[/quote] AND ONCE THE MURDOCH MINIONS STARTED UP THE PROPAGANDA PR MACHINE THE USUAL SUSPECT MSM CLONES FELL INTO LINE. N'

nasking

28/04/2013 TRUTH SEEKER, YOU'VE DONE IT AGAIN...SUPERB! PARTICULARLY ENJOY THE FOLLOWING STANZAS: [b]And the ills he oft refers to Are our sad economy And the carbon “Tax”, That wrecking ball That’s bad for you and me And “illegal” boat arrivals That he says he’ll turn around And the mineral Rent resources tax, But his thinking’s just not sound Cos the economy is powering on And interest rates are low And as an indicator of character His lies are all on show And he’s promised ”to start” growth again When we’ve been growing now for years And he claims our debt is massive Trying to build on peoples fears And that wrecking ball, the carbon “Tax” Is more than we can bear Cos it won’t reduce emissions Despite reductions already there And he says his plan is better Planting trees Australia wide Whilst giving money to the rich To help them stem the tide Of Anthropogenic Global Warming Which Abbott thinks is crap But he’ll do and say whatever it takes To get Government dropped in his lap And he won’t develop policies Just take them from the IPA Which allows the Abbott to devote his time To throwing dirt all day Calling refugees illegals Says a lot about the man And turning leaky boats around Is still his master plan And he says he’ll consult with experts But he’s ignored them up till now Rather listening to his right wing mates Like Gina the great cash cow He set up his own slush fund The law, his aim to bend He’s tried destroying peoples lives Even one he called a friend He lives by the assumption that The end justifies the means Proving that his morals Aren’t worth a bag of beans So when it comes to character The Abbott’s sadly lacking But he thinks it doesn’t matter Cos he has the Murdochs backing And when it comes to morals The LNP’s a farce And when it comes to Tony Abbott He’s not… a PMs… arse[/b] ---- INDEED :D N'

nasking

28/04/2013 JUST WONDERING... IF IT WAS A GROUP OF WHITE PERSECUTED JESUITS FLEEING TO AUSTRALIA IN A COUPLE OF BOATS... WOULD TONY ABBOTT [quote][b]STOP THE BOATS[/b][/quote]? N'

Truth Seeker

28/04/2013Nas, thanks for your kind words and support :-) and I'm glad to see you've been back to your best with all your comments. I hope the eyes are OK mate. I have been following your comments and enjoying them, but we have had a lot going on for the last few weeks and not as much time as I would like to be able to comment. But your efforts are still read and appreciated :-) Cheers :-) :-)

Catching up

28/04/2013After the Port Arthur massacre, did any PM have any choice in whether the gun laws were tightened. It would have taken with a PM with lots of guts, or one that was completely stupid, not to fall in line and tighen the gun laws. There are many that say, Howard did not go far enough. Also of worry, in the Coalition state3s, these laws are being weakened Do not see Howard, yelling leave them alone. I suspect that even in the USA, public opinion will frighten the politicians more, that a powerful, small gun lobby. A gun lobby that threatens sitting MPs.

nasking

28/04/2013 CHEERS TRUTH SEEKER! THNX FOR THE UPLIFTING WORDS. KEEP UP THE GREAT FIGHT! YOU ARE A TRUE CYBER-WARRIOR. I SOMETIMES WONDER IF TONY ABBOTT HAS NIGHTMARES OF BOATS COMING ON HIS WATCH? ...OF BOATS EXPLODING AND SINKING AS NAVY SAILORS CATCH FIRE AND DROWN...AND DRONES CRASHING...THE LOSS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS...AND MUSLIM EXTREMISTS BLOWING UP CONSULATES AND BLAMING THE USE OF [quote]KILLER SPY DRONES[/quote] BY AN ABBOTT GOVERNMENT? IMAGINE IF TONS OF VOTERS LET ABBOTT WIN...ONLY TO DISCOVER TO THEIR HORROR HE WAS FULL OF CRAP...COULD NOT STOP THE BOATS...AND IN TURN CAUSED UNTOLD MISERY TO THE NAVY. IMAGINE HOW THEY WOULD FEEL IF THEY HAD VOTED FOR ABBOTT MAINLY ON THE ISSUE OF [quote]STOPPING THE BOATS[/quote] AND HE FAILED... AND THEY REALISED THAT NOT ONLY WAS HE GETTING RID OF THE MINING TAX AND CARBON PRICE... THAT ALSO HIS PAID PARENTAL SCHEME TAX WAS HELPING TO LEAD TO HIGHER INFLATION...BECAUSE BUSINESS THOUGHT IT WAS TIME TO RECOUP SOME OF THEIR LOSSES...GO WILD... AND SUDDENLY INTEREST RATES STARTED RISING... AND THE SAME VOTERS REALISED THEIR NBN WAS BEING DEMOLISHED SO MURDOCH AND CO COULD PUSH A [b]USER PAYS US A SMALL FORTUNE [/b]SYSTEM... AND THE DISABILITY SCHEME WAS PUT IN THE [b]LATER[/b] BASKET...WHILST PRIVATE HEALTHCARE WAS URGED TO GROW LIKE AN AMERICAN TUMOUR... AND AFFORDABLE EDUCATION BECAME PRIVILEGED EDUCATION VS CORPORATISED PUBLIC SCHOOL EDUCATION WHERE MONEY FLOODED UPWARDS AND STUDENTS MARCHED TO THE BEAT OF [b]THE MAN [/b] WHAT A BUMMER IT WOULD BE FOR THOSE VOTERS...TO REALISE TOO LATE...THEY HAD BEEN CONNED. N'

Catching up

28/04/2013I notice Abbott is still running when asked difficult questions, one may want answers to. Ran again, with a smirk on its face, saying how clever I am, when asked about the GST. Remember, they have only said, they will not raise the rate. They are careful not to say, they will not extend it to what Howard originally wanted, but the Democrats prevented. That is, GST on everything across the board. Will even use the argument, that5 it will make it easier for business. Therefore,, expect the GST to extend to fresh food, among other staples. Just listen to what Abbott does not answer. Ignore the spin. That tells us nothing.

Tom of Melbourne

28/04/2013I think you need to be truthful Catching Up. I listened to Abbott, he simply said they have no plans to change the GST. Time will tell whether he’s been truthful or whether he gets a plan to change it. Tell me, what do you think he said that justifies your statement?

Tom of Melbourne

28/04/2013Nasking – “[i] IF IT WAS A GROUP OF WHITE PERSECUTED JESUITS FLEEING TO AUSTRALIA IN A COUPLE OF BOATS...

WOULD TONY ABBOTT STOP THE BOATS?
”[/i] Would Gillard have 6000 people in detention if they were from white?

Tom of Melbourne

28/04/2013"were white"

nasking

28/04/2013 THIS IS HILARIOUS!: [b]SEA ABBOTTS...INSTANT BORDER PROTECTION...JUST ADD WATER[/b] http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151403047513302&set=o.274330505796&type=1 N'

KHTAGH

28/04/2013Time we all sent this piece to Julia, today. http://turnleft2013.wordpress.com/2012/04/30/federal-alp-it-seems-you-would-rather-play-nice-and-sacrifice-our-democracy-than-fight-for-us/

Ad astra

28/04/2013Folks This evening I’ll be posting [i]Grasping for prime ministership the Abbott way[/i]. May I make a special plea as we turn the page from this post to the next? There has been a lot of to-ing and fro-ing between the few who come here to irritate, to show their nastiness, and in some instances to make offensive personal remarks about others who comment here, and some of you who cannot resist the temptation to respond. When they do evoke a response, they are encouraged to continue their behaviour, like a child who misbehaves to attract its parent’s attention, even if that results in a reprimand. [b]So please, please, please do not respond to people who come with nothing to add, but come with only pointless comments that diminish and contaminate what is otherwise sensible discourse among concerned and well informed participants.[/b]

nasking

28/04/2013 [b]WELCOME TO TORY LAND[/b]...WHERE TIGHTENING YER BELT MEANS [b]JUSTICE FOR FEW[/b]: [quote]England’s 800-year-old tradition of fair and open access to justice for all will be destroyed by sweeping Government plans to reform criminal legal aid, senior judges and magistrates warn today. In an attempt to save £200 million by 2018, the Justice Secretary Chris Grayling plans to stop paying solicitors for the work they do – and instead give them a fixed fee for each case they represent. Lawyers will be incentivised to recommend guilty pleas to their clients, a coalition of judges, magistrates and civil liberties groups warns. Their fears are backed by the Criminal Cases Review Commission, which investigates miscarriages of justice on behalf of the Government. Criminal suspects will lose their rights to choose or dismiss a solicitor, and the number of accredited legal aid firms will drop from 1,600 to less than 400 – raising the possibility that hundreds of small high street firms could be replaced by huge contractors like G4S. “The Government is creating a system where potentially the same company could defend you, lock you up in prison and then rehabilitate you when you come out,” said one judicial source. “[b]It is the complete privatisation of justice.[/b]”[/quote] http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/new-legal-aid-reforms-end-justice-for-all-lawyers-warn-8591234.html CORRUPT RICH DYNASTIES AND BIG CORPORATIONS ARE GONNA LUV THIS. TORIES...WORKING FOR THEM OVERTIME. THE PEOPLE GAGGED BY POVERTY. KINDA GW BUSH OF THE CONSERVATIVES EH? N'

Catching up

28/04/2013Actually, Abbott walked away in the interview, not answering the question. All we hear from Abbott is what he is against, what he is going to demolish, not very much about what else he intends to do. Will they widen the GST base or not. Maybe someone can link to where he said he would not.

nasking

28/04/2013 AD, IF YOU AREN'T GOING TO MODERATE THEN SOME OF US WILL RESPOND IF OUR REPUTATION AND PREVIOUS WORK EFFORT IS TRASHED. IF YOU CHECK THE LAST ELEVEN COMMENTS ABOVE THIS ONE YOU'LL FIND I DID MOVE ON...BUT I'M NOT GOING TO SIT IDLY BY AND LET CAPSTAN AND SIR IAN CRISP PISS ON MY LIFE AND MAKE BS ACCUSATIONS ON A PUBLIC BLOG. I WILL OCCASIONALLY GIVE AS GOOD AS I GOT. I'M VERY AWARE OF 'DERAILING THREAD' TACTICS...BUT CONTRIBUTORS CAN ONLY COP SO MUCH ABUSE WITHOUT APPROPRIATE MODERATING. IF YOU CHECK OUT THE BULK OF MY COMMENTS YOU'LL SEE I PUT A BIG EFFORT IN...MOST HAVING NOTHING TO DO WITH RESPONDING TO THE RESIDENT RIGHT-WING STIRRERS. CHEERS N'

Austin 3:16

28/04/2013Hey TalkTurkey, As charming as ever I see. Apologies m'lord that one of us plebeian fellows disagreed with your sacred word. I'll have myself soundly flogged then see myself out. ;)

Austin 3:16

28/04/2013 [quote]do not respond to people who come with nothing to add, but come with only pointless comments that diminish and contaminate what is otherwise sensible discourse among concerned and well informed participants.[/quote] Wow Ad what a great blog you're aiming for, no discord, no challenge just you and your yes men. If you want a flock of sheep simply "baa-ing" with agreement at your every pronouncement why not consider the priest-hood? You sound like you'd be a great cardinal.

Tom of Melbourne

28/04/2013Catching Up, in reference to Abbott’s comments about the GST, you said – [i]” Remember, they have only said, they will not raise the rate. They are careful not to say, they will not extend it to what Howard originally wanted, but the Democrats prevented.
[/i] It’s about time you stopped making up this type of crap. ---------- …and I’d tip that if the boats were full of white people, Gillard wouldn’t lock up 6000 people. [b]6000!!![/b] but this outrage gets no comment. It only has people identify that Abbott is competition with this policy. Far from "concerned and well informed participants" - it is hypocrites that mainly inhabit this site.

nasking

28/04/2013 TOM, I FIND IT RATHER PECULIAR THAT THE COALITION SIDE OF POLITICS SEEMED TO HAVE LITTLE PROBLEM WITH LOCKING REFUGEES UP IN NAARU CONCENTRATION CAMP...BUT HAVE SO MUCH COMPASSION FOR ASYLUM SEEKERS WHO COULD BE SENT TO MALAYSIA. I GUESS ALL THOSE ASYLUM SEEKERS WHO WENT MENTAL BEHIND BARB-WIRED FENCES AND STUCK ON THAT BAT CRAP OF AN ISLAND DIDN'T DESERVE COMPASSION... AND IT WOULD BE WRONG TO SAY THAT ABBOTT'S POSITION WAS ONE OF NAKED POLITICAL GAMESMANSHIP? AND YET PEOPLE STILL DIE IN BOATS. WOULDN'T BE WRONG I RECKON TO HOLD ABBOTT AS PARTLY RESPONSIBLE. N'

Tom of Melbourne

28/04/2013Nasking, I think both sides of politics have played a disgraceful political game with asylum seekers. [b]BUT HERE THE MAIN OBJECTIVE IS TO EXCUSE GILLARD AND CONDEMN ABBOTT[/b], as a consequence the term [b]HYPOCRITES[/b] springs to mind.

nasking

28/04/2013 TOM, HOW CAN PM GILLARD BE BLAMED WHEN SHE INHERITED A SYSTEM FROM KEVIN RUDD...AND HAS BEEN BLOCKED BY BOTH THE COURTS AND ABBOTT FROM TRYING THE MALAYSIAN SOLUTION? FRANKLY, I DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING WILL WORK TO STOP ALL THE BOATS... BUT CONSIDERING HOW MANY HAVE DIED YOU'D THINK ABBOTT'S TEAM WOULD BE WILLING TO HELP THE GOVT IN A BI-PARTISAN MOVE TO ATTEMPT TO PREVENT MORE DEATHS... IT SEEMS HE WOULD PREFER TO PLAY POLITICAL GAMES. THAT'S ABBOTT ALL OVER...CAN'T ACT IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST...JUST THE AMBITIOUS POLITICAL ONE. N'

nasking

28/04/2013 ABBOTT AND HIS SHOCK JOCK, THINK TANK AND MURDOCH EMPIRE SUPPORTERS...AND THEIR MSM CLONES MIGHT ALSO WANT TO ADMIT TO THE VOTING PUBLIC THAT THEY PREFER THE BOATS KEEP COMING SO THEY CAN WIN GOVT OFF THE BACK OF ANOTHER DOG WHISTLING SCARE CAMPAIGN... WHILST USING THEIR SLY/SKY NEWS TALKING HEADS AND FREE-TO-AIR PUPPETS TO CREATE MORE FEAR-MONGERING ABOUT POSSIBLE TERRORISTS IN AUSTRALIA...AND THE AUSSIE-BASED MUSLIM MOUTH PIECES WHO APPARENTLY MOTIVATE YOUTH TO BECOME TERRORISTS... ALL BECAUSE THE COALITION HAVE A MISH MASH OF POSSIBLY UNWORKABLE POLICIES... AND A SECRET AGENDA TO DISTRACT THE PUBLIC WHILST THEY UP THE GST AND BROADEN ITS REACH... ATTEMPT TO BUILD A BUNCH OF HIGHLY EXPENSIVE DAMS... AND NUCLEAR ENERGY PLANTS... PRIVATISE AND OUTSOURCE MANY MANY SCHOOLS AND HOSPITALS... SHOVE AS MANY INDIGINEOUS YOUTH IN PRIVATISED PRISONS, RELIGIOUS CAMPS AND THE MILITARY AS POSSIBLE... SO THEY CAN CONTINUE THEIR CHRISTIAN CRUSADING WARS AGAINST ISLAM...AND KEEP A FEW SAUDI AND UAE AND ISRAEL RELATED SUPPORTERS HAPPY... AND IF THE ECONOMY IS STUFFED...WHO GIVES A DAMN BECAUSE IT CAN BE USED AS AN EXCUSE TO CUT CUT CUT AND PRIVATISE...AND EXTEND SCHOOL HOURS...RIP OFF NURSES...THE LIST GOES ON. AND IF THE PLANET KEEPS WARMING WELL ALL THE BETTER FOR RESOURCE HUNTERS AS THE ICE AND PERMAFROST MELTS AND SHIFTS... BESIDES...IT'S ALL IN GOD'S PLAN...BECAUSE GOD LOVES US LOOPY AMBITIOUS NEO-CONARTISTS AND NEO-LIBS AND LIBERTARIANS WHO BELIEVE IN CREATING A SOCIAL DARWINIAN NIGHTMARE WHERE GOVT IS BROKEN FOR EVERYTHING EXCEPT OUR GOALS. N'

Tom of Melbourne

28/04/2013Nasking, • Under Gillard we have [b]6000 PEOPLE IN DETENTION[/b]. • Gillard locks up children • Rudd said the election of Gillard would result in a lurch to the right on asylum seekers and he got that right. • Gillard has adopted a divisive stance on the issue, which allows the Liberals to move even further to the right. • Does anyone believe sending 800 desperate people to Malaysia is any form of policy, or that it even has/had a chance of success? • Gillard and her backers are dull hypocrites, and the proof is that they don’t condemn her for her blatant racism

nasking

28/04/2013 • [b]Rudd said the election of Gillard would result in a lurch to the right on asylum seekers and he got that right.[/b] GILLARD DID WHAT SHE WAS KNOWN FOR...MOVED TO THE RIGHT ON ASYLUM SEEKER ISSUES. IT'S NOT AS THO THAT WAS A SURPRISE TO MANY WHO KNEW HER. FURTHERMORE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BLAME HER THEN SHOULDN'T YOU BLAME THE POLLED PUBLIC WHO SUPPORT A FIRMER STANCE ON ASYLUM SEEKERS? AND MANY IN THE MSM? ABBOTT HAS REFUSED TO BE BI-PARTISAN ON THE MALAYSIAN ISSUE...EVEN WHEN THE PM REOPENED NAARU ETC... THAT DEMONSTRATES TO ME HE AND HIS TEAM ARE PLAYING POLITICAL GAMES AT THE EXPENSE OF LIVES... IT ALSO SHOWS THEY ARE STUBBORN TO THE POINT OF COMING ACROSS AS AN EXTREMELY CHILDISH AND IRRESPONSIBLE AND UNCOMPROMISING OPPOSITION THAT DOES NOT DEMONSTRATE THE VALUES NECESSARY TO BE A GOVERNMENT. FULL-STOP. N'

nasking

28/04/2013 [b]Gillard has adopted a divisive stance on the issue, which allows the Liberals to move even further to the right.[/b] TALK ABOUT DRAWING THE LONG BOW. DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT ABBOTT AND HIS CRONIES WERE GOING TO TAKE ANYTHING BUT AN EXTREME RIGHT POSITION CONSIDERING THEIR SUCCESS WITH THE TAMPA SCARE? NOT TO MENTION THE TYPICAL APPROACH OF THEIR SUPPORTING MEDIA INCLUDING SHOCK JOCKS WHO LOVE VILIFYING REFUGEES...DOG WHISTLING... AND LET'S FACE IT...MURDOCH'S EMPIRE IS STUCK IN A GROOVE ON THIS STUFF...THINK TEA PARTY AND FOX NEWS AND SO CALLED 'ILLEGALS'. THIS IS EASY LAZY STUFF FOR THEM AND THE MODERN RIGHT OF POLITICS...LOOK AT UKIP IN THE UK. BLAMING PM GILLARD FOR THEIR POLITICAL APATHY AND LACK OF INNOVATIVE, CREATIVE PROGRESSIVE POLICY IS REALLY STRETCHING IT TOM. N'

Tom of Melbourne

28/04/2013I’m stretching nothing Nasking. You were a vocal critic of the policy during the Howard era, but you go out of your way to find excuses for a fear more punitive version in Gillard’s government/ Gillard seeks to pander to rednecks, that’s her choice. She chooses to punish innocent people for political expedience, that’s also her choice. Gillard aligns with rednecks and racists and you excuse her.

nasking

28/04/2013 YA GOTTA LUV CONSERVATIVES...THEY'RE NOT ONLY CHEAPOS WHEN IT COMES TO ESSENTIAL SERVICE WORKERS UNLESS IT'S THEIR MATES... BUT THEY PROMOTE THE IDEA THEY ARE INTO 'FAMILY VALUES' WHEN ALL THEY DO IS MAKE PEOPLE WORK AT TIMES WHEN THEY COULD BE SPENDING IT WITH THEIR FAMILIES... AND SEEM TO ENJOY SEPARATING KIDS FROM THEIR FAMILIES...ON WEEKENDS...ON HOLIDAYS... THEY ARE FULL OF CRAP. STILL, IT'S NOT SURPRISING THAT THESE HOLY ROLLER LNPers EXPECT TEACHERS TO DO EVEN MORE VOLUNTARY, UNPAID WORK...CONSIDERING SOME COME FROM RELIGIONS THAT EXPLOIT THE VULNERABLE AND GOOD-HEARTED...EXPECTING THEM TO DOOR KNOCK...EVEN ON VALUABLE FAMILY SATURDAYS AND SUCH: Education Minister John Paul-Langbroek says teachers would not face undue pressure as a result of proposed tough new discipline reforms that include Saturday detention. However, it was envisaged that they would volunteer to give up a Saturday morning to supervise the badly behaved pupils in detention. They also faced spending more time supervising lunchtime and after school detention, as time limits on such disciplining were lifted, Mr Paul-Langbroek said on Sunday. The proposed changes will come before Parliament later this year with a view to being passed by January 2014. “I’m confident as we currently see passionate teachers prepared to go that extra mile,” he said. “In this case, if it’s Saturday detention, they’re going to be remunerated for it anyway. However teachers are not compelled to conduct Saturday detentions under current EBA arrangements and the Queensland Teachers’ Union has questioned the logistics and value of the scheme. QTU President Kevin Bates said the scheme was “fraught with problems” and “did nothing to address the causes of poor behaviour”. Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/saturday-detention-among-latest-newman-reforms-20130428-2imei.html#ixzz2RkagFA1K YA WANNA HELP DISCIPLINE YOUTH...THEN JOIN UP WITH GONSKI AND GET FUNDING TO ASSIST DISADVANTAGED KIDS...WHO THEN FEEL LESS COMPELLED TO ACT UP OUT OF FRUSTRATION AT NOT KEEPING UP WITH THE REST OF THE CLASS. GET REAL QLD GOVT!!! DON'T PREY ON EDUCATOR'S GOODWILL...AND USE CHEAP EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL TACTICS IN YER BACKDOOR, SLY SCHEME TO CREATE LONGER SCHOOL HOURS. N'

nasking

28/04/2013 ANYWAY, THE QLD EDUCATION MINISTERS VIEWS EXPRESSED VIA THE FAIRFAX SITES ETC WILL CERTAINLY WAKE MORE THAN A FEW THOUSAND TEACHERS WHO MIGHT HAVE BEEN SITTING ON THE FENCE... TONY ABBOTT HAS JUST LOST A HECKUVA LOT MORE VOTES IN QLD...TO START WITH... TEACHERS AREN'T STUPID... THEY KNOW WHEN ANOTHER SALVO IN AN IDEOLOGICAL WAR HAS BEEN FIRED... LINE UP ABBOTT AND THE STATE LNP AND IT WILL BE A NIGHTMARE FOR PUBLIC EDUCATORS. THE STATE LNP IS GONNA LOSE A LOT OF SEATS NEXT ELECTION TOO. COME ON DOWN PETER BEATTIE! EXPECT MORE PISS WEAK DIVIDE AND CONQUER...AND EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL TACTICS. N'

jane

28/04/2013I passed the Pollie Pedal mob on the way home this afternoon. Unfortunately, I couldn't identify Liealot and save the country from a fate worse than a Rodent government. I may have been out of the loop for the last few days, but I couldn't miss the Pollie Pedal and the squillions of support vehicles giving the traffic the tom tits. My 84yo m-i-l observed that Liealot was probably skiving off in the leading support vehicle which would sprint ahead in time for Liealot to claim a pathetic victory. She is definitely not a fan. I did note with interest on the Sunrise Show yesterday morning, David Bradbury giving a Grattan Institute twat a lesson in just who is bilking the economy big time. The twat was blathering on about how much pensions are costing the economy, when Bradbury chimed in with the information that companies such as Google Australia are getting away with taxation murder. Google Australia earns $10bn annually, but pays just $780k in tax-a taxation rate of just 0.78%. How many other companies are getting away with it? He intimated that closing this loophole will be one of the next cabs off the rank. I can hear the anguished squeals as bloated snouts are yanked out of the public trough. Unfortunately, time constraints prevented me from hearing more. Another reason that the wizened foreigner and others may be desperate for a change of government. You can bet your bottom dollar that Liealot has promised not only to leave the snouts in the trough, but to enlarge the trough and fill it with more gold plated swill. NAS', STILL ON FIRE. YOU'RE ON A ROLL AND I LOVE IT!

jane

28/04/2013KHTAGH, great link and I agree it should be sent to all ALP MPs from the PM down.

nasking

28/04/2013 CHEERS JANE. DAVID BRADBURY MAKES GOOD POINTS. [b]You can bet your bottom dollar that Liealot has promised not only to leave the snouts in the trough, but to enlarge the trough and fill it with more gold plated swill.[/b] SNORT SNORT! SORRY, THOUGHT I WAS A SNOTTY MURDOCH EMPIRE SWINE ROLLING IN THE SKY NEWS MUD. N'

TalkTurkey

28/04/2013Bruce! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC2EfZ-B2OI The most lovably ridiculed name in the world! Believe me I know.

Ad astra

28/04/2013Folks I have just now posted: [i]Grasping at prime ministership the Abbott way[/i]. http://www.thepoliticalsword.com/post/2013/04/28/Grasping-at-prime-ministership-the-Abbott-way.aspx
I have two politicians and add 2 more; how many are there?