Junk-yard Japes

When he was cutting his teeth in student politics all those years ago, Tony Abbott used to refer to himself as “the junk-yard dog”.

And, even today, he is still playing that same role, guarding the junk-yard, in Oil-drum Alley, of that old Liberal codger, John “Albert Steptoe” Howard, with his back-sliding son, Malcolm “Harold Steptoe” Turnbull and their gang of live-in relatives, including Cousins Barnaby, Sophie, Angry, Peter D, Godwin, Julie, Joe, John A, Peter R and Chris.

Now, just recently, Albert has just got over the shock of a visit by the Carbon Taxman, who was responding to complaints from the neighbouring hippies in Windpower Alley, that his junk-yard was full of noxious substances that were polluting the local atmosphere with CO2, methane, and god knows what else.

So, just before the Carbon Taxman made his pre-arranged visit, Albert and Harold hide all their misfit rellies in their “Sophie” (the name they have given to their shed).



However, after his visit, the Carbon Taxman reckoned it is more of an issue for the Council Sanitation Department, saying, “Jeeze...this place is so bad, it would make the Augean Stables, before Hercules rolled up his sleeves, look like Hyacinth Bouquet’s front parlour”.

But what was so bad about the yard? Albert, Harold and the rest of the Steptoe Clan couldn’t see a problem with any of the following:

- Heaps of Tony the Junk-yard Dog’s doodoo’s lying all over the place
- A big pile of guano in a corner, deposited by seasonally-migrating seagulls from Nauru
- Heaps of rusting steel that Harold got dirt-cheap from Whyalla, after it was wiped off the map
- A pile of old boatphones, leaking acid all over the yard
- The rotting corpse of WorkChoices, left swinging in the wind on the clothesline (waiting to be resurrected by Cousins John Alexander and Peter Reith)
- Piles of rotting fish (Tony the guard-dog won’t eat them – he prefers to just give them a kiss)
- Heaps of Cousin Joe’s discarded KFC cartons
- A fleet of rusty Commodores (but no Bentleys)
- Sheets of Productivity Commission Reports that Cousin Barnaby used as toilet paper
- Chaff bags full of decaying left-overs from a recent series of Revolting Peoples’ Tea Parties
- And, not unsurprisingly, an infestation of “Julies” all over the place (as you can imagine, Cousin Julie took great umbrage at being compared to a cockroach.)

A few weeks later the Steptoe Clan’s junk-yard is the scene of an ever-increasing miasma. But still there is no sign of a visit from the Council Sanitation department, as threatened by the Carbon Taxman.

Then, just as everyone is getting complacent and, as usual, picking on Harold, who, they reckon, is not really one of them, Tony the Junk-yard Dog starts to create a racket outside.

Albert: Good old reliable Tones! He’s a great guard-dog, he is...That can only mean there are unwelcome visitors at the gate...Let’s go outside and see the bastards off, good and proper...heh...heh...

[The Clan hesitates at the front door and they all stare at Harold. Instinctively, he lies down over the threshold, and they all troop out, using him as a door-mat.

Outside in the junk-yard, the Clan notices that Tones has exited his kennel – “Kirribilli” – and is standing at the three-metre-high gates, challenging, in his own idiosyncratic fashion, some person on the other side.

However, one would expect a guard-dog to be barking ferociously at any unwelcome presence threatening the vicinity of its designated territory. But not Tones. All he can muscle up is his trademark wussy, “No...no...no...”, bark that he learned from Hillbilly Skeleton’s cat.]



Albert: Oh, for Christ’s sake, Tones, give over! You stand as much chance of scaring away unwelcome callers as I do of putting on my trakky-daks and representing Australia at the London Olympics...Right, you on the other side...identify yourself! And don’t forget, we decide who comes into this yard and the circumstances in which they come...

Voice: It’s me, Julia Gillard, the local Council Sanitation Inspector...and I’ve been advised by the Carbon Taxman that this place is a health hazard and could do with a good clean-up...

Cousin Sophie: We don’t care who you are...and, as a matter of fact, I’ve got a petition here signed by all of us, telling you and your fellow shiny-bummed bureaucrats to get stuffed...

Jooles: Huh – a petition from you? I bet Peter Slipper hasn’t signed it...heh...heh...

Sophie: Cheeky bitch! Why don’t you go back to Libya – haven’t you got a few hundred thousand towel-heads to massacre!

Cousin Peter D: Yeah, ya old boiler!

Cousin Godwin: Yeah, and don’t forget to send us an email postcard...hee...hee...

Cousin Chris: And why don’t you go away and have a kiss ‘n’ kanoodle threesome with Kev and Bob...

Cousin Joe: Yeah...and dry your eyes with your Carbon Credit tissues – they’ll be as useful as Monopoly money after we get on the Treasury Benches...

Jooles: Huh, if anyone’s got a monopoly around here on great big black holes, it’s you mate...hee...hee...

[Suddenly, everyone’s attention in the junk-yard is grabbed by the dull, repetitive sounds of something being whacked against what appears to be a hollow object. They look around and can’t believe what they are witnessing. Cousin Angry has found an old clapped-out speaker in a corner of the junk-yard and is, alternatively, spraying it with furniture polish and then head-butting it

The blood from Cousin Angry’s lacerated forehead is mixing with the furniture polish and is pouring profusely onto the grimy cobblestone yard.

Then, to everyone’s disgust, Tones lopes over and starts to lap it up!]

Harold: Huh, Tones...I didn’t realise you were into blood Pledges...hee...hee...

[So the insults hurled at Jooles across the locked gate continue unabated. Finally, after Cousin Chris tells her to, “rack off, you back alley bitch”, she has had enough, and calls it a day. However, the words of the last term of abuse give her an idea.

Meanwhile, Harold lies down over the threshold, allowing himself to be used again as a doormat.

Later that night, after the Steptoe Clan has gone to bed, Jooles returns. But this time, she has got company – not least, her new poodle, “Peaches”, that Tim gave her for her fiftieth.

Immediately, Tones sniffs the bitch (the poodle, not Jooles) outside the gate and starts to get all randy.]

Jooles: Tones! There’s a good boy...look what I’ve got for you...open the gates, and she’s all yours, mate...You’ll get so much action, you’ll make Larry Flint on Viagra look like Simeon Stylites...yum...yum...

[Tones doesn’t need a second invitation. With his teeth, he grabs hold of the “Andrew” (Bolt ) on the gate, slides it across and the gates swing open to reveal not only Jooles and her now-cowering poodle, but a SWAT Team of Council Sanitation operatives, ready to disinfect, and even burn, all the crap in the Steptoe junk-yard.

As Tones looks longingly and lustfully at the poor poodle, who has positioned herself defensively behind Jooles’ protective legs, Jooles lifts her up and gives her a few re-assuring pets.]

Jooles: Now, Tones...as I was saying...why don’t I take you away from all of this, away from your dilapidated kennel, and set you up for life at the real Kirribilli? Why, you could be the resident guard-dog and live happily-ever-after there with Peaches...

[At the very mention of such a horrendous prospect, Peaches tries to burrow even further into Jooles’ ample bosom for comfort. However, Jooles, still holding Peaches, walks over to her car, Tim at the wheel, with Tones tagging along, tongue hanging out in anticipation. They all jump in and Tim takes off like a bat out of hell.

During the journey, Tones hears something about a meeting Jooles has to attend firstly in Woop Woop, so he snuggles down in the back seat, ogling lasciviously his prospective bride, Peaches, who is ensconced on Jooles’ lap in the passenger seat.

Then, after what seems to be hours, Tim suddenly pulls over.]

Jooles: Righto, Tones...you’ve been cooped up for a while now...why don’t you jump out and have a pee before we go any further...

[Tones reckons Jooles has been reading his mind, and gratefully jumps out after she reaches around to open the car-door. However, he is no sooner Pointing Percy, when the car takes off quicker than Cousin Barnaby driving a taxpayer-provided car into a swollen Queensland creek. After a few moments, the twin rear-lights disappear over the horizon.]

Jooles: Heh...heh...it’ll be a long walk back to Kirribilli from here for Tones...

Tim: Yeah, but he’ll do okay out here – after all, he’s been feral for a while now...hee...hee...

[But, the happiest and most relieved in the car was Peaches. The prospect of a dismal future of a life-time of ironing a junk-yard tyke’s budgie smugglers was not something she had been looking forward to.]

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Acerbic Conehead 2

24/10/2011Hi AA, Thanks for posting “Junk-yard Japes” for me. It looks like the link to Hillbilly’s cat has gone awol, so here it is for anyone who missed it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EytotH8BENI

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24/10/2011AC Many thanks - I've added the No No No No cat into your piece. Tony would be proud of it.

TalkTurkey

24/10/2011On Q&A Tanya Plibersek sending shivers up and down my spine, In a full-on smack-in-the-mouth answer to Graeme Richardson: [i]"I hope when I retire that I never make a buck by trashing the Labor Party."[/i] She went UP in all goodwillians' estimation. He went [u]DOWN.[/u] He deserved it. Plibersek then repeatedly gives the lie to the lying Poodle. He is SO-O-O-O-O disgusting.

Feral Skeleton

24/10/2011AcerbicC., Good to see my pussy has come home. It's a hard life following the Junk Yard Dog around saying, "No!" that many times a day. :)

Acerbic Conehead 2

24/10/2011FS, [quote]Good to see my pussy has come home.[/quote] You better be careful, or we'll be calling you Mrs Slocombe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgqLLbaQHz8&feature=related

NormanK

24/10/2011AC, Beat me by a whisker!

psyclaw

24/10/2011TT Tanya P was again magnificent. She listened patiently to so much crap but when she quietly spoke it was with authority, conviction,and common sense. It was sooooo good to see her shaft Richardson .....no oblique backhander, but straight between the eyes. I think it settled him down a bit. She is all class.

NormanK

25/10/2011[b]TODAY'S LINKS[/b] [i]Round 12 with Rupert and less free debate than ever Stephen Mayne The Drum[/i] Unfortunately, Rupert Murdoch doesn't much believe in free speech at the News Corporation AGM. He gave 2.5 hours to the British Parliamentary committee in July, but us shareholders got an hour less. http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/3597076.html [i]How the internet messes with the game of media and party politics Bernard Keane Crikey[/i] The internet connects where television isolates. While newsprint and radio are less isolating, television symbolises the atomisation implicit in mass media, which bases its business model on establishing a hub-and-spoke relationship with consumers, dominating and mediating the way they understand the world and blocking out competing sources of information or, for that matter, anything that might distract them from their roles as passive advertising target and contented consumer. http://www.crikey.com.au/2011/10/24/how-the-internet-messes-with-the-game-of-media-and-party-politics/ [i]Orders in Bolt case sound like jackboots in Holt St Peter Timmins Open and Shut[/i] Quite a contrast in these comments on Friday on the orders issued in the Bolt case. http://foi-privacy.blogspot.com/2011/10/orders-in-bolt-case-sound-like.html [i]What are they protesting about, anyway? Jeremy Sear An Onymous Lefty[/i] So what’s the point of the “occupy” protests? Obviously they weren’t going to get a sympathetic ear – or any kind of fair hearing – in the commercial media, but what were they trying to achieve? What has standing around in a crowd chanting slogans ever achieved? http://anonymouslefty.wordpress.com/2011/10/24/what-are-they-protesting-about-anyway/ [i]The Tony Abbott timebomb Barry Everingham Independent Australia[/i] Tony Abbott’s performance in front of the Queen confirms that he is a ticking political timebomb with a very short fuse http://www.independentaustralia.net/2011/politics/the-tony-abbott-timebomb/ [i]Newspoll: New England and Lyne UPDATE: weekly Essential Research William Bowe The Poll Bludger[/i] The Australian brings results of a Newspoll survey conducted from Tuesday to Saturday in Tony Windsor and Rob Oakeshott’s regional NSW seats of New England and Lyne. http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/ [i]What's Real, and What's Not Hyperidian Bannerman Blogotariat[/i] Amusement abounds today. Followed closely by concern for the future of Australian democracy.
Selective polling of voters in the electorates of Lyne & New England - the seats of Independents Rob Oakeshott and Tony Windsor, respectively - has apparently revealed that voters in those seats don't like the choices they made 14 months ago in electing both men as their democratic representatives. http://www.blogotariat.com/node/226196 [i]The criminalisation of dissent John Passant En Passant[/i] Under the guise of the war on terror – in reality a war of terror by US imperialism against large parts of the world – the state has been strengthening its powers of arrest, surveillance and control. Australia is no exception. http://enpassant.com.au/ [i]Is the Clean Energy Finance Corporation the best way to get clean energy? Dylan McConnell The Conversation[/i] As the main renewable energy investment measure included in the Clean Energy Future package, the CEFC is intended to fill a gap in Australia’s climate change and energy policy. Scrapping the CEFC would be a substantial setback to the emerging renewable industry. http://theconversation.edu.au/is-the-clean-energy-finance-corporation-the-best-way-to-get-clean-energy-3923 [i]Coalition NBN policy shifts to fibre to the node Renai LeMay Delimiter[/i] However, over the past few weeks, Turnbull has appeared to increasingly focus on the idea that a FTTN-style rollout would be a key plank of NBN policy under a Coalition Government. http://delimiter.com.au/2011/10/24/coalition-nbn-policy-shifts-to-fibre-to-the-node/ [i]Fibre to the node: Turnbull to meet with Quigley Renai LeMay Delimiter[/i] Shadow Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull has accepted an invitation issued by NBN Co chief executive Mike Quigley to a half-day briefing on the merits of fibre to the home versus fibre to the node technology. http://delimiter.com.au/2011/10/24/fibre-to-the-node-turnbull-to-meet-with-quigley/ [i]The 6-6-6 plan John Quiggin Crooked Timber[/i] Inspired by Michelle Bachmann, I’ve been thinking about what a 6-6-6 response to Herman Cain might look like. Being multiply disqualified from seeking election to the US Presidency, I decided to put in as much work as Cain and his team appear to have done, but no more. Hopefully, the magic of crowdsourcing will turn this into a comprehensive blueprint. http://crookedtimber.org/2011/10/23/the-6-6-6-plan/#more-22048 [i]The Social Impact Of The US Recession Andrew Leigh Labor Blog[/i] Empirical economists are a perky bunch. Give us a badly-designed policy, a natural disaster or an economic calamity, and we’ll use it to learn something about human behaviour.
And so it is with the latest recession in the US. http://www.alp.org.au/blogs/alp-blog/october-2011/the-social-impact-of-the-us-recession/ [i]Rethinking climate security Corinne Schoch Climate Spectator[/i] Once upon a time, climate change was a strictly environment and development issue.Today it has become a matter of national and international security. Efforts to link climate change with violent conflict may not be based on solid evidence, but they have certainly captured the attention of governments. http://www.climatespectator.com.au/commentary/rethinking-climate-security [i]Politics, not economics may be at the heart of Abbott’s Japan focus Jane Golley The Conversation[/i] Even if we try to give Abbott the benefit of the doubt that he does believe free trade to be in Australia’s national interest, it remains very difficult to reconcile this with the simultaneous signal that he will favour Japan over China if the Coalition wins the next election. http://theconversation.edu.au/politics-not-economics-may-be-at-the-heart-of-abbotts-japan-focus-3953 [b]Newspapers[/b] [i]Top 10 clean technology breakthroughs Neasa MacErlean The Guardian (UK)[/i] A list of innovative clean technology breakthroughs on the verge of pushing new boundaries http://www.guardian.co.uk/sustainable-business/clean-technology-100-renewable-energy-solutions?newsfeed=true [i]Negativity the major hurdle for Abbott Phillip Hudson Herald Sun[/i] "The role of Opposition Leader involves a lot of criticism and I think sometimes you pay the price of having to be the nation's official critic-in-chief but the party is doing extremely well, the Government is monumentally in difficulties and, look, I'm happy with the way things are going," he said. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/negativity-the-major-hurdle-for-abbott/story-e6frfhqf-1226175618163

Patricia WA

25/10/2011Bushfire Bill gave a useful hint at PB on how get behind the Oz paywall without registration if one ever did want to. [quote] If you copy the url of the paywalled article into google and press search – hey presto behind paywall. Only works with google.[/quote] Works brilliantly. I just read the Newspoll details. Much about the carbon price, little about the two party preferred and Greens result which are the really significant angles.

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25/10/2011LYN'S DAILY LINKS updated: http://www.thepoliticalsword.com/page/LYNS-DAILY-LINKS.aspx

Feral Skeleton

25/10/2011PatriciaWA, You are a glutton for punishment, actively seeking to go behind The Austrollian's paywall. :)

Feral Skeleton

25/10/2011AcerbicC. and NormanK, Oi! I do not have purple hair! :D

Feral Skeleton

25/10/2011Re the Herald Sun article by Phillip Hudson: I love it when News Ltd journalists 'Don't write crap.' :)

Feral Skeleton

25/10/2011Another good news Clean Energy story: http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2011/10/birds-eye-view-of-solar-plant.html

Feral Skeleton

25/10/2011What? It's actually the Capitalistic practices of Energy companies in a free market that make Electricity prices go up more than anything else? Well I never! ;-) http://www.economist.com/node/21533434?fsrc=scn/tw/te/ar/truobleturninguptheheat

Feral Skeleton

25/10/2011No one can say The Economist is a 'Lefty rag', yet, even they are now saying that the evidence is irrefutable, Global Warming is real and a clear and present danger to us all: http://www.economist.com/node/21533360

TalkTurkey

25/10/2011Psyclaw @ 11.52 PM It did more than settle him down. He went pastey-faced and he slumped and shrank. Right between the eyes, yes, and an archetypal staunch clever decent grand slam trumping riposte if ever I heard one. Later he said some things very much pro-Labor. He was seriously chastened. A woman got him where he is practically immune to other males. Didn't she do him well! Spot-on timing just after one of his most perfidious-ever raves, and as it happened, she was seated right alongside of him as she said it, somehow that really helped, [i]Whack![/i] right in the kisser. As I said, Tanya's stakes just went up, Richardson lost a lot of respect forever. Serves him right. He has leant back on his Labor-bestowed reputation for shrewdness for years and made a killing off the back of bagging our noble Party. This will never be forgotten, and Richardson knew it instantly, [i]she[/i] trashed [i]him[/i]. Her words are now legend. [I only got them [i]nearly[/i] exactly, the first few might be a little not-right, if anybody can find them precisely please post them, they are worth it.] Tanya ain't nobody's pussy, and Richo's not so cocky now! :)

TalkTurkey

25/10/2011I meant to include Tanya Plibersek's TKO on Richardson in my last post. As I said the first few words might be not quite right, but her gobsmack was so classic it deserves to be preserved intact and exact. Please someone correct if you can. [i]"I hope when I retire that I never make a buck by trashing the Labor Party." [/i] And I hope nobody ever has just cause to chastise me thus regarding the Party I love.

Feral Skeleton

25/10/2011Talk Turkey, YOU ARE CHEEKY! :D

Feral Skeleton

25/10/2011I, too, noticed Graham Richardson noticeably slump in his chair after the Tanya telling-off. The clapping from the audience also rammed home the point, I'm sure. However, the whole incodent goes to a wider point that the Conservatives have played Labor off a break on for years. As they have capital, being capitalists and all, whenever they notice a former Labor MP on his uppers, or having moved into one of their communities, or both, such as Graham Richardson down in Bowral, and through the connections in the business world he/she has made, by having to sup with the devil, whilst they were in government, they thus co-opt them to rat on their former party and then push them out through their media outlets as some sort of 'honest broker' commenting about their party. But it's a double game that they play because, firstly, a lot of these Labor Rats, such as Gary Johns, for example, in their post-parliamentary life, enthusiastically drink the Kapitalist Kool Aid and abandon the party they were formerly a member of. The Conservative Capitalists just lap it up and parade them about for all the country to see. Sowing thew seeds of doubt in the minds of swinging voters. Secondly, whilst some may still vote ALP in the privacy of the electoral booth, however, like Tanya says, in their post-parliamentary life they decide to sell their souls to the devil. You see, the thing I find most hypocritical about people like Graham Richardson, with their Labor 'analysis', is that they never apply an equal amount of scrutiny to the Coalition and Tony Abbott. And there is plenty of fertile soil to till there. "That's not their job, they say." Which is exactly right, isn't it?

TalkTurkey

25/10/2011Mpf. You think THAT was cheeky? You said "Oi! I do not have purple hair!" It wasn't your [i]head[/i] we wuz thinking of, Mrs S.. ??? Witchy Black? Feral Tabby? [i]Purrsian Blue?[/i] Tortoiseshell? Jellicle? Chocolate-point Siamese? [i] Marmalade?[/i] :)

NormanK

25/10/2011[b]Plibersek accuses Richo of trashing ALP for a 'buck'[/b] Ms Plibersek hit back saying she hopes when she retires she does not make money trashing the party. "I hope when I retire I never make a buck trashing the Labor Party," she said. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-10-25/plibersek-spat-with-graham-richardson/3598482

Feral Skeleton

25/10/2011Well, that was easy, I didn't have to do the Google URL thingy at all. I just went to the link that Peter Brent put up on Twitter to his own blog at The Austrollian, and there it was! No jumping over a paywall. No offer to kindly subscribe for free for 3 months. IT was also a balanced post so I'll pass it on: http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/mumble/index.php/theaustralian/comments/the_crean_phenomenon/

BSA Bob

25/10/2011F.S. at 10.37 Well put, I agree. Sycophantic compliments coupled with large amounts of money & privilege can be difficult to resist, especially when they're calculated to appeal to your specific vanity. On the subject of Richo; this may be scuttlebut, can't give you a quote, but I think I heard ex ALP Senator Nick Bolkus point out that in his day everyone assumed as a matter of course that Richo had hidden agendas piled on top of each other a mile high whereas now the media make a point of taking everything he says at uncritical face value.

Patricia WA

25/10/2011No FS, I know you're joking, but I need to say it, but I rarely go there at the best of times and rely on third hand commentary. But Bushfire Bill made the suggestion so I gave it a go. Quite apart from the cost, minimal, I'm damned if I'm going to give News Ltd any info about me which they require for registration. I do rescue the Crossword page from next door at the weekend before it gets binned. I stopped buying newspapers years ago, when I left Sydney where I used to enjoy SMH. The thought of all those trees......... btw In the same spirit Tacker and I used to make our early morning walk on Freo's South beach and have my first coffee of the day over Matt Price's blog site. We made some good friends there. All of us grief stricken over Matt's sudden death. I know you still visit J.T.I. but does it have anything like the integrity of Matt's.

Feral Skeleton

25/10/2011[quote]'ANU poll of 1900 people shows 81% support for higher taxes on miners and 63% support for "carbon tax on 500 largest emitters" '[/quote]

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25/10/2011Folks Many times I've tried pasting URLs from articles in the now paywalled [i]Oz[/i] into Google Search, but still cannot access the full article. I'm using Safari - I wonder is that the trouble. Have any of you been able to make this strategy work on an Apple Mac using Safari? If so, I wonder where I'm going wrong!

Patricia WA

25/10/2011AA, apparently it must be Google. Doesn't work with anything else.

Feral Skeleton

25/10/2011Talk Turkey, You might appreciate this Anus Horribillis story: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/mother-country-angry-over-aussie-mooning-queen-20111025-1mh1b.html#ixzz1bkXaFLmU :D

Feral Skeleton

25/10/2011Talk Turkey, You left out 'bald' ;-)

Gravel

25/10/2011Acerbic Conehead Thanks for the wonderful laugh. You are so descriptive with your writing, I can see the pictures in my head. Feral Skeleton That was a good poll. Who is/are the ANU? Please.

NormanK

25/10/2011Ad astra I've just deleted a long 'How to' post because tricks that I could perform this morning no longer work. Either they have closed the loophole or their Home Page now recognises my ISP address and won't allow me to do work-arounds. I'm on Safari. This morning I could do the trick you were trying to perform and I could also get around the paywall by instigating Google News searches for key words that I knew to be present in the headline. These no longer work. Can't help, sorry but now you know that you're not alone.

NormanK

25/10/2011Australian National University poll. [b]Attitudes to Government and Government Services[/b] [quote]To ascertain support for some of the current proposals for reform, the ANUpoll respondents were asked whether they approved or disapproved of seven reforms, ranging from the contentious mining tax to higher taxes on alcohol and tobacco. The results suggest that there is a majority in favour of all seven changes, most notably for a mining tax, which is supported by 81 per cent, and an increase in the tax-free threshold for income tax (supported by 78 per cent). At the other end of the scale, there is less support for a carbon tax, but even here two-thirds approve of the proposal while one-third oppose it. [/quote] Page 19 http://publicpolicy.anu.edu.au/anupoll/documents/2011-10-25_ANUpoll_government_services.pdf

Feral Skeleton

25/10/2011Gravel, The ANU is the Australian National University in Canberra. One of the best and most respected in the world!

TalkTurkey

25/10/2011FS Yes I see it says the Queensland crowd gave Her a [i]thumbs-up [/i]too . . . Ummm . . . [i]Not very seemly, Your Ain't-No-Hoomin-Bein'ness[/i]

Patricia WA

25/10/2011FS, I thought the ANU survey results more or less reflected the way I sense people feel about issues around taxation and welfare chatting to them around the traps. There's no sense of respondents being pushed towards a particular response either. I wonder does Newspoll inform its respondents that the carbon 'price' is levied only on big polluters? That latest Newspoll is very odd, with a shift to the Greens and lift in disapproval for the carbon price legislation.

TalkTurkey

25/10/2011FS LOL! Literally! NormanK re Australian National University poll. WOW! The only mental image I can build of this state of affairs is of the People en masse on one side, constantly kept confused and separated by being fed a diet of gotchas and lies and distortions and all manner of skulduggery by the Murdochracy and by Skulduggery International . . . But when they get the chance to answer rational questions such as I DO [i]assume[/i] that the ANU asked, well this is the result ! Amazing though, Hope it's proper science. They CAN'T keep this wall separating the People forever. [i]We are rolling them back.[/i]

NormanK

25/10/2011Acerbic Conehead Job well done! You continue to entertain us in novel new ways. I am extremely grateful for the added qualification in this sentence: [quote]Immediately, Tones sniffs the bitch (the poodle, not Jooles) outside the gate and starts to get all randy.] [/quote] Thanks heaps. I'm off to the 'Sophie' to count my chaff bags - I have a feeling they might come in handy pretty soon (George Christensen is a big boy - literally).

Feral Skeleton

25/10/2011PatriciaWA, I just can't get it out of the part of my brain saved for nagging doubts the concept that Newspoll still only rings people up on landlines, and whilst having to behave according to the Rules and Regulations adhered to by Polling companies nationwide as far as a spread of age and sex numbers within each discrete poll goes, there must be some bias that goes into the polling because they are unwilling to contact those families who only have Mobiles. Maybe it balances itself out in the long run, as you could hypothesise that families who still maintain landlines are both Conservative and Labor voters. All I do know is that there's a PhD in there for the person who figures out an answer to that question. Though who'd want to do a PhD in Statistics I don't know. One year was enough for me!

Feral Skeleton

25/10/2011Why is the Mining Tax 'contentious'? Only with the Mining companies, who don't want to pay it, and their shills in the media and Opposition. I win ReCaptcha Bingo! I got the words ROYAL and nit :D

Michael

25/10/2011How a Coalition in government finds that circumstances have changed... or, in fact, they lied. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-10-25/baird-admits-voluntary-redundancies-compulsory/3599424 You can bet that Shouldabeen, should he ever be PM, will pull exactly the same sort of stunts. And over the next two years, unless there is an early election, the people of NSW and Victoria will have experienced precisely what a Coalition government means. Abbott's becoming harder to take already, he's the one who'll be toxic down the line, as Baillieu and O'Farrell 'play games' similar to those the story above lays out.

NormanK

25/10/2011Feral Skeleton The Mining Tax is contentious in my part of the world because people don't properly understand that it is just on super-profits and they believe it will affect every mine in every community. Once again the campaign of FUD has sown the seed that Labor is trying to close down coal mines (Bob Brown doesn't help in this regard), getting greedy with more taxes (so that they can make up for the money they've 'wasted'), and they (Labor) don't understand the role that mining plays in keeping our economy strong. It is all part of an illogical perception that Labor is trying to destroy the economy - illogical because what government would actively seek to do that and to what purpose? The cut to company tax, the increase in superannuation contributions and the increased spending on infrastructure are concepts that don't get past that big, little word: TAX. I have no doubt that the poor showing for Labor in Queensland in 2010 was largely as a result of mistrust and misunderstanding of the Mining Tax. If people understood it, they would back it.

Michael

25/10/2011Ad Astra, hi. Norman K's method works as described - on my Mac, using Google, and Firefox (not Safari). However, I suspect that this paywall will eventually crumble. Not enough subscribers, with 'opinion' writers finding their audience shrinking, will force a climb down. 'The Australian''s readership, and Australia's population, neither are big enough for the economies of scale necessary for the paywall to stand.

NormanK

25/10/2011Ad astra I don't pretend to understand what is going on but as Michael said above, a Google search of key words on Firefox just brought up the full story that I could no longer access on Safari. Weird.

Gravel

25/10/2011Feral Skeleton Thanks for that information. I saw that NormanK posted just before you and had more information. Let's hope the respondents are not the same ones that all the other pollsters use. Wouldn't it be sweet if most Aussies think like this.

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25/10/2011NormanK Thank you for the information about accessing [i]The Oz[/i] via Google. I think they have probably closed what was a loophole. In doing so, they will likely cut their own throats. Thank you too for the ANU Poll, which is revealing, and likely to be more reliable than [i]Newspoll[/i]. Like FS, I wonder what influence the exclusive use of landlines has on the results of polls such as [i]Newspoll[/i]. Is the real breakdown different from that portrayed? Are the parties actually closer than the polls suggest. I see Dennis Shanahan seeks to downplay the narrowing of the gap in the last [i]Newspoll[/i]. I wonder if he’s concerned that this might foretell a trend. Those who write off Labor, two years from an election, on the grounds of current polling, including Richo, are sticking their necks out, and ought not to be surprised if they lose their heads. Michael Thank you for your advice. I’m not using Firefox but otherwise I’m using the same set up as you are. If any of you are still able to access articles in the paywalled [i]Oz[/i] using an Apple Mac and Safari, please let me know, step by step how you managed it. From what NormanK has written, it looks as if some of us might be locked out. Maybe Firefox is the answer.

Feral Skeleton

25/10/2011Michael, Broken promises don't come any bigger than this: http://www.streetcorner.com.au/news/showPost.cfm?bid=22540&mycomm=NW

Feral Skeleton

25/10/2011However, what Weathervane Liberals are good at is sniffing the votes evaporating on any particular issue: http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/radioactive-waste-undecided-nsw-premier-20111025-1mh9h.html

2353

25/10/2011Here's some strange results on the paywall. This article -> http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/opinion/coalition-lines-up-against-labor-on-the-economy/story-e6frgd0x-1226173332492 is paywalled. Using a Google search on Safari 5.1.1 and Firefox 7.0.1 on a "Snow Leopard" iMac OSX 10.6.8 brought the article up in full. I haven't gone back in and tried another article as I really don't care too much about accessing the Australian anyway.

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25/10/20112353 Thanks - that link did work for me, but I wondered if it did so because the article was written and published before the paywall went up. I'll keep trying. I'm calling it a day.

Feral Skeleton

25/10/2011Testing, testing, 1,2,3...This is your correspondent,feral skeleton,speaking to you from her new laptop & just testing whether the Internet thingy works from here. :)

Feral Skeleton

25/10/2011Slight problem with the Gravatar though. :(

NormanK

26/10/2011[b]TODAY'S LINKS[/b] [i]What Tanya Said Ash Ghebranious Ash's Machiavellian Bloggery[/i] I tweeted shortly after this that Tanya is why I still vote Labor. That there are people like her still who believe in the meaning of the Commonwealth of Australia. I don’t think Labor has changed at all Mr Richardson. In fact, what has happened is Australia and its people has changed thanks to decades of reform bought about by Labor. http://ashghebranious.wordpress.com/2011/10/25/what-tanya-said/ [i]Gerard Henderson, and time to unleash the hounds ... Dorothy Parker Loon Pond[/i] Second day away from the commentariat at The Australian, hidden behind that damned paywall, and it's getting hard. There's the sweating and the shaking and the stomach cramps, way worse than what William Burroughs suffered writing Junkie. Oh sweet absent lord, I need a fix, I need a hit bad, some of that sweet uncut commentariat doom saying and doom neighing, shooting, gushing into the vein like a dose of brown sugar ... http://loonpond.blogspot.com/ [i]Polls and pretenders Anson Cameron The Drum[/i] Apparently polls are regarded as some sort of salutary mantra that can bear endless repetition because they issue from an unimpeachable source, democracy's red corpuscles... the people. http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/3599686.html [i]Evidence: Stimulus spending creates jobs Peter Martin[/i] Economists Christine Neill and Andrew Leigh have been able to do what those before them have not: measure the effect of stimulus spending on individual regions by comparing those that received stimulus dollars with those that did not. http://www.petermartin.com.au/2011_10_01_archive.html [i]Record protests as News Corp shareholders get rankings dead right Stephen Mayne Crikey[/i] No News Corp director has ever had more than 150 million votes against, so the records were clearly smashed in 2011 with as much as 80% of the independent shareholders voting to remove the Murdoch boys and other compliant or affiliated directors. http://www.crikey.com.au/2011/10/25/record-protests-as-news-corp-shareholders-get-rankings-dead-right/#comments [i]A tug-o-war between carbon and the NBN Rob Burgess Business Spectator[/i] Just when we thought it was all over, a sharp shift in the polls reopens a couple of battlefronts for the Gillard government. http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/carbon-tax-NBN-broadband-Gillard-Abbott-Telstra-pd20111025-MXRWQ?opendocument&src=rss [i]Living in the Howard era in 2011 Mark Bahnisch The Drum[/i] Abbott's program, as has been repeatedly noted over the last little while, seems to consist solely of a desire to have as many elections as it takes to undo everything the ALP in office has done since 2007. It's as if he wants to stand at the window of the Lodge with bell, book and candle and exorcise the spectre of Howard's defeat, and damn the historical memory of Labor's ascension. http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/3599628.html [i]Making Australia positive again Andrew MacCleod On Line Opinion[/i] Australians are tiring of fear and negativity from whichever side it may come. Australians would like to hear some inspiration, and hear how our country can be lead based on a vision of a good future. We are a good country and continue to be the lucky country, hence it is time both our political leaders gave us this hope and optimism. http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=12789 [i]Just love those cows. (But not so much for Boat People) Gerard Oosterman Window Dresser's Arms, Pig & Whistle[/i] The ABC 4 corners have come up with 2 sessions that I found to be somewhat related. A few months ago there was this exposure of the mistreatment of cattle. It resulted in a nation-wide outrage. Now, I find all this love and sweetness for animals somewhat at odds with what we saw last night on the 4 Corner programme on boat-people. There were sad and pleading eyes as well. There were people being beaten, shot at. Some were driven into suicide. http://pigsarms.com.au/2011/10/25/just-love-those-cows-but-not-so-much-for-boat-people/ [i]If PM Abbott’s not a matter of if, but when, let’s examine his policies Andrew Crook Crikey[/i] If you believe the press gallery, the national political debate has undergone a tectonic shift from what the current Gillard government should be doing to what Tony Abbott will do when — not if — he claims his rightful role as Australia’s next PM. http://www.crikey.com.au/2011/10/25/if-pm-abbotts-not-a-matter-of-if-but-when-lets-examine-his-policies/ [i]Gilliard Government marked down in ‘could do better’ democracy report Bella Counihan The Conversation[/i] Australians are more dissatisfied with the way democracy works now than they were after the Rudd government was elected, a poll has found. According to the ANU poll of 2001 people, there has been a 13% decrease in the level of satisfaction with democracy since the last federal election. http://theconversation.edu.au/gilliard-government-marked-down-in-could-do-better-democracy-report-3995 [i]More complaints about ABC’s “incestuous” connections Jennifer Wilson No Place For Sheep[/i] While the national broadcaster is quick to expose and exploit “incestuous” connections when uncovered  in the commercial media, does the same standard of scrutiny apply in-house? http://noplaceforsheep.com/2011/10/24/more-complaints-about-abcs-incestuous-connections/ [i]Piracy policy: The questions the Govt won’t answer Renai LeMay Delimiter[/i] Amidst these moves, a new player — Movie Rights Group — has arisen and is planning to target thousands of Australians who have allegedly downloaded its clients’ films, using a legal process which both the ISP and content industries appear to approve of, and which the Government has proposed strengthening http://delimiter.com.au/2011/10/25/piracy-policy-the-questions-the-govt-wont-answer/ [i]Queen dismisses Gillard curtsey row Independent On Line News[/i] Britain's Queen Elizabeth II saw an Australian row over Prime Minister Julia Gillard's failure to curtsey as a “storm in a royal teacup”, a palace spokeswoman said on Tuesday. http://www.iol.co.za/news/world/queen-dismisses-gillard-curtsey-row-1.1164346 [b]Newspapers[/b] [i]Mining tax hits 11th-hour hurdle Gemma Daley, Louise Dodson and Laura Tingle[/i] The Gillard government is facing a last-minute dispute over its mining tax, with the resources sector concerned Labor's latest draft of the laws will increase the revenue it collects from BHP Billiton, Rio Tinto and Xstrata in the early years of the tax. http://www.afr.com/p/national/politics/mining_tax_hits_th_hour_hurdle_htlN42n1oNOA3wu0INtuXI

psyclaw

26/10/2011The fool Abbott addressed a Clubs Australia function last night and was asked if he'd repeal the pokie legislation, if it gets passed. He replied "I [b]predict[/b] we'll repeal it". What a blatant self serving set-up for a lie. He was saying to the crowd, "if it pleases you, I'll mention here and now that we'll repeal it, but I may be wrong so don't be surprised if we don't (but it's not [b]really[/b] a lie)". On another topic I was (not)greatly surprised at the very little publicity given to Newspoll yesterday. I guess it's not newsworthy that JG and the government are steadily on the improve, and Abbott is on the slide. The coalition's 4% drop in primary votes is a matter for glee and supports the growing optimism of most Swordsters. Fingers crossed that bus drivers remain vigilant and all government MPs keep taking their cardiovascular medications ...... we don't need a by-election when steady progress is being made towards 2013. The 54-46 TPP result contrasts with the anti-ETS large numbers. But what these two results combined seem to say is that of those who dislike the ETS, a good many would vote for JG anyway. The scorn by the MSM towards the Morgan polls on Oct 14 and Oct 20 which both had the 2PP around 53-47 seems to have backfired. Morgan's face to face methodology seems to be shining a light on the path ahead 2 weeks before Newspoll's phone polls identify the good news.

jane

26/10/2011Up to your usual excellent standard, AC. Still chortling. TT, I couldn't bring myself to watch QandA last night; the thought of little Lord Mincy Whynne, Richo and the other cheerleaders lined up against Plibesek was too depressing and I bottled it. So to read about Plibersek not only giving that turncoat Richo one on the gob, but savaging Lord Mincy Whynne into the bargain has lifted my spirits which have been sagging a little. FS the ANU poll is very interesting. Certainly doesn't seem to jibe with the constant stream of shite from Newspoll. But it shows that there is much stronger support for the mining tax and carbon pricing than we're lead to believe. It also makes you wonder how the questions on these issues are framed by other pollsters. I was intrigued that a significant number of respondents nominated "better government" as an area of concern. I would love to know what they mean by "better government". It's such a vague meaningless term. I rather suspect it's a bit of Liars Party crapaganda. Ad astra @4.27pm, those ANU results are interesting, aren't they? It's also amusing that the Shamster seems to be in a bit of a flutter wrt the latest Newspoll. I agree that the so-called pundits are sticking their necks out making the predictions of a landslide victory to the Liars Party when the election is two years away. Once the carbon price is bedded down, people are getting a few extra dollars in their wallets and nobody's rooned, i think Liealot is going to start running out of steam. In the absence of some catastrophic event, Gillard won't be going to the polls early, no matter how many tantrums Lieealot throws. And once the CEF legislation is passed by the Senate next year, the childish demands for an election will be pointless. And you'd imagine that voters will have had enough of the histrionics and confected outrage and switched off.

Patricia WA

26/10/2011Odd that Abbott should have had sufficient self awareness to call himself [i]the junkyard dog[/i]! One assumes he knew that it means, [quote]...a very mean and combative person, willing to use any means necessary...[/quote] (OED) Pity that self awareness hasn't encouraged him to walk in another man's shoes. e.g. Bernie Banton.

TalkTurkey

26/10/2011Poor Turkey. I don't mean me. Bit pun, not funny, truly sad. :'( ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Patricia WA said [i]Odd that Abbott should have had sufficient self awareness to call himself the junkyard dog![/i] Nah that's actually self-[i]delusion![/i] ;-) Junkyard Dogs are furious. A nose-to-tail poll conducted after Abbortt's comment showed that >99% of JYD's interviewed were enraged by the suggestion that Abbortt was one of them, and in some cases the interviewers themselves were actually attacked. Asked for an actual comment, a representative of the JYDU, Dobermann Pinscher, simply snarled. *Sniffy* ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jane How could your spirits be flagging now? The political freeze in which the MSM has gripped Labor is in full retreat, thawed by *J*U*L*I*A*'s determination and her wedge of staunch Ministers' unrelenting pressure to achieve the Government agenda. Now that a major part of their legislative program is already in place, they can talk with the confidence of accomplishment, of runs on the board, as never before. I must say that, from reading other bloggers' thoughts here and elsewhere, I often feel sort of like one of the very first birds to sing of the joy of Spring, noting the first puffs of the warm West Wind, the first tentative sunburst caught in the first droplet of meltwater . . . Ad astra is such a bird too, I love knowing that. I cannot understand how it has taken so many so long to pick up on the nuances of political climate change, see it only takes a few % and Abbortt is swept away, and the Coalons left rudderless and leaderless, and compassless most of all. But our PM is the first of all, telling Them Don't write crap, and leading fearless women like Plibersek and Wong, and what the hell are the Coalons going to do about them, and about the concrete legislation already in place, answer, zilch. Julia Gillard has outmanoeuvred Abbortt on every point, including, albeit perhaps counterintuitively and serendipitously, the Asylum Seeker issue, where though the Government might not be clearly in the lead, at least Abbortt is abbortted and be#*ddled and neutered. He no longer owns his last great coward's castle. The ANU poll referred to earlier today is proof that the Government is on the right track, and on track too. Two years, Swordsfolks. Why would anyone on our side be down? There's plenty of Them to do the being down! They are looking around aghast as the concrete sets around the reforms, freaking out, kicking and screaming, isn't it deluxe? The Government can quietly start blowing its own horn now, more and more as the excellence of its measures are increasingly realized, never mind being down, just [i]Man the bloody oars![/i] [i]"[i]Courage[/i]!" [/i]he said, and pointed towards the land: [i]"This mounting wave will roll us shoreward soon."[/i] Alfred, Lord Tennyson, [i]The Lotos-Eaters[/i]. (Yeah, like, after we win the 2013 election we can all live in Lotos Land forever, whaddyareckon cool eh. :) ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

psyclaw

26/10/2011Further to my earlier comment, I have listened again to Abbott at the Clubs rally last night (sharing the stage with the spiteful Alan Jones again). He has again used his one and only paradigm of “opposing”. [quote]“I do accept there is a problem (too many boats, or AGW, or need for national broadband, or need to help gambling addicts …… good boy if we can believe you!!!!). BUT the government’s solution is wrong (Malaysia, and ETS, and fibreoptics, and mandatory precommitment). The only way is our way (tow ‘em back, and direct [i]in[/i]action, and wireless broadband, and counselling of addicts). So we’ll wreck the silly elected government’s way, because we, the born-to-rule-ers always know best.”[/quote] This is not Opposition in the accepted sense. He is trying with some success to redefine governance as “the election loser has the policies that the people really want so that is what the law should be.” On another matter, the measure of 7% is apparently the new [i]huge[/i], the new threshold at which mayhem and disaster kicks in. On many logsites there is "the 7% of GDP national debt has ruined the economy"!!!! And precommitment will take away the ability of clubs to continue to support local sport and charities with their current, huge donations of 7% of their incomes to such causes, thus demising local sport etc. Regarding Abbott’s [b]no[/b] paradigm and the new 7% disaster threshold, bring on mandatory anti-gullibility education as the major subject to be studied in schools. TT Great advice for us all. As I said earlier, subject to careful bus drivers and MPs taking their cardiovascular meds, there is plenty of time till the next election for this gentle breeze of renewed government support to slowly and surely turn into a howler. We can all revel in the current Abbott autumn precipitating a long,freezing, desolate winter for him. This is the rightful course of nature.

psyclaw

26/10/2011Para 8, line 1 .....blogsites

2353

26/10/2011If 7% of GDP is the new huge - pray to the deity of your choice as the country is ruined. In effect, most Australians that have a housing loan have a debt much higher than 7% of their annual income (effectively what the GDP is for the Country) including Abbott who got a $700,000 loan after to 2007 eelction as he couldn't "afford" to live as a backbencher. I've posted here before a list of various countries debt to GDP ratio - from memory Japan's was 192%, the US was 90 something% and the EU around 50%. If we are ruined - what are they?

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26/10/2011LYN'S DAILY LINKS updated: http://www.thepoliticalsword.com/page/LYNS-DAILY-LINKS.aspx

Patricia WA

26/10/2011psyclaw, loved your comment on Abbott at the Clubs last night. Someone somewhere pointed out that in his speech Abbott <i>predicted</i> that he would repeal any pre-commitment legislation and wondered if this was his new strategy to avoid making yet another <i>promise!</i> Bushfire Bill has an equally interesting take on Abbott's pokies speech over at The POll Bludger this morning. He also has a very comprehensive list of other things we know that Abbott plans to do, or says he does! http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2011/10/25/newspoll-54-46-to-coalition-3/all-comments/#comments. Comment 1105.

Trevor

26/10/2011The Anti Pokies reform movement have been dudded by Tony. They should be up in arms, or is that alms? He has only "predicted that a liberal gov would rescind the legislation". No pledge in blood for them. Obviously not important enough. Another sign that Abbott's campaign is running out of steam, or is that BLOOD?

NormanK

26/10/2011[b]No republic on a dead planet: Abbott's real carbon plan[/b] by Greg Jericho The Drum [quote]But the defeat in the 1999 republic referendum is a perfect example of how the progressive side of politics can fail spectacularly when it puts its mind to it, and I believe has much in common with the carbon price debate.[/quote] http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/3600030.html

Michael

26/10/2011Bad Abbott You can string them together like plastic 'pearls' on a cheap cotton-string necklace... "I predict" that "circumstances have changed". (from the lexicon of Shouldabeen) Add your own timing, but don't ever forget, a sauce of hypocrisy may not be necessary each and every time (although to some it seems the 'signature' ingredient), but a recipe base of BS is absolutely required for the soufflé to never rise at all.

Gravel

26/10/2011Talk Turkey at 4am You go you good Turkey you. Well done. That was very well done. the recaptcha: savour 7% eh! It is unbelievable that people are so silly to think that is too much debt. Patricia, I will go over to PB, then onwards through the day to Lyn's Links, thanks to NormanK. You are doing a great job, and I do like Loon Ponds writing, also I've been reading Andrew Elder for a long time, although never felt the urge to respond.

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26/10/2011Folks Don’t you love our economists – the strong consensus was that today’s inflation figure would come in at 0.6%, so it comes in at 0.3%. I have heard only one economist make that prediction. Why do they bother predicting at all? I wonder how Joe Hockey will spin that great result which may lead the RBA to cut interest rates?

NormanK

26/10/2011I'll put this up because it is topical and still include it in tomorrow's links for our other readers. [b]I rescind you. I rescind you. I rescind you. (Apologies Clarke and Dawe)[/b] by Ash Ghebranious Ash's Machiavellian Bloggery [quote]Oh readers! Have I got a treat for you! An EXCLUSIVE interview with Tony Abbott! Yes! He wanted to speak to me![/quote] http://ashghebranious.wordpress.com/2011/10/26/i-rescind-you-i-rescind-you-i-rescind-you-apologies-clarke-and-dawe/

Trevor

26/10/2011Michael Don't forget that other one from politics 101. A great big black hole! Oh oh we will have to reassess our commitments, PPL gone. And there is always deferment, it sounds so much better than canceled. Patricia had the classic "gore and non gore promises". Those in BLOOD are the ones he is committed too. I think. But the way Tony is playing this game is not very sophisticated his stridency is giving very little wriggle room. He is relying on his Catholic practice of seeking forgiveness after the event. This get out of jail free card gives him carte blanche, in his mind, to do whatever it takes to get office. Worry about the consequences after that and seek forgiveness while promising a much gentler polity. I am growing in confidence though that greater scrutiny is now being applied to his behaviour. This is the antidote, if the MSM wont do it by themselves blogs such as this have to keep raising the issue until the MSM can no longer ignore it.

Trevor

26/10/2011AA That is why it is called "The dismal science".

Feral Skeleton

26/10/2011PatriciaWA, That's the last time I go to the place whose name I will not mention again! One morning and a fair bit of the early after noon,down the tubes! ;-)

Feral Skeleton

26/10/2011A couple of thoughts about Abbott's appearance at the Anti Pokies Rally(and wasn't it presumptuous of the Clubs to have a banner stating, 'Çlubs ARE Community'?) 1. Why is it that Mr Abbott is never confronted by anyone who has a problem with Poker Machine Addiction? Are his minders and the Club Industry so powerful that these poor wretched souls are kept out of his way? Isn't there even one working stiff in all the workplaces that he goes to who has such a problem and who has the guts to confront him in front of the media? I guess not because they are probably too embarrassed to admit it. Still,where are all the goody-two-shoes, like Tim Costello, that were formerly so vocal about the issue, now? 2. Which brings me to my second point. Has an enterprising journalist, and yes, that may well qualify as an oxymoron, thought to point out to Captain Catholic that it is the welfare arm of the Catholic Church, St Vincent de Paul, who provide the money, food and electricity payments to the families of the Pokies Addicts? Instead, I imagine we'll just continue to have this debate in the Orwellian netherworld created by the Clubs Industry and the Opposition spin doctors.

nasking

26/10/2011Good stuff AC. Imaginative & apt. I see Abbott not only as a snarling dog defending destructive industries... but also the angry late middle-age man... angry for the clubs & gambling machine owners who drain the life of individuals & their families who exercise their right to choose to be enslaved by man-made machines...most too poor to even contemplate hiring nannies... angry for rich mining bullies who take pleasure in raping & pillaging democracy so as to experience power orgasms and use their booty to give themselves superpowers taking them virtually beyond the grasp of the mere [i]many[/i]...and the laws of the land... angry for the businesses quite willing to transform their employees into flexible bots that can be used to do any unsavoury work they don't feel inclined to do...anytime of the day & night...and be stored cheaply w/out complaint in an "out of the way place".... angry for the livestock farmers willing to look the other way as their beloved pets as children have now conveniently morphed into fleshy sacks of moolah fed to the animal gulags & slaughterers of the globe in order to feed the addictions of the aspiring & upwardly mobile in the developing world...and fill the restaurants that boast "good taste"...as wine glasses clink to the marinated creature that never made it to the petting zoo... angry for the self-funded retiree who would rather eat a pensioner than be bitten slightly by a carbon tax...the same who too oft build their empires only to see them washed away by bad investments - sometimes advised by their beloved radio shock jock protectors - the same who too oft build a home or investment opportunity w/ a view only to see them washed away or stunk up by floods that they were unable to predict in their headlong rush for financial security off the back of archaic & destructive industries that did indeed come back to bite them... angry for [i]any[/i] person, small business, corporation, organisation willing to throw its weight behind his divine right to be top dog. Angry Abbott...not surprising he hits the same stage as Angry Anderson. N'

nasking

26/10/2011A story about another group of increasingly angry boys who purport to be men...who use snarling guard dogs to retain their privileges: October 25, 2011 Arrested at Vatican Square [b]Challenging the Old Boys Network in the Vatican[/b] by BILL QUIGLEY [quote]We never thought it would end up on a hard wooden bench inside a police station in Piazza Cavour. Maryknoll priest Fr. Roy Bourgeois, young Erin Saiz Hannah of Women’s Ordination Conference in the US and Miriam Duignan from Womenpriests.org from the UK were sitting there when my wife and I arrived. They were being detained by the Rome police. It started when the Rome police spotted the three women in long white church liturgical garments robes, the man in a roman collar dressed all in black, and their supporters walking several blocks down the middle of Via della Conciliazione directly towards the Vatican, the headquarters of the institutional Roman Catholic Church and the Basilica of St. Peter. The group sang Alleluias and carried a long purple banner Ordain Catholic Women, a big red and white banner proclaiming God is Calling Women To Be Priests” (in English and Italian), and a black and white Call to Action banner The group wanted to deliver a petition, printed on pink paper, signed by more than 15,000 people who asked the Vatican not to expel Fr. Roy Bourgeois, 72, from the church for saying that women are called to be priests in the church. Fr. Roy faces expulsion from his Catholic community, Maryknoll, for refusing to recant his belief that women can and should be allowed to become priests. Bourgeois, a decorated Vietnam veteran, has been a faithful member of the Catholic missionary group, Maryknoll, for 44 years. For twenty years, he has worked with School of Americas Watch in the US, a group of thousands who challenge the role of the US military in training human rights abusers among Latin American militaries. Along with the petition was a list of hundreds of priests who asked that Fr. Roy not be expelled just for speaking out about a matter of conscience. As the tour busses and other traffic veered around the marchers, pedestrians on the street cheered. The huge dome of St. Peter’s Basilica dominates the area which is thronged with pilgrims and tourists, and saturated with souvenir shops and vendors selling religious medals, holy cards, statues, refrigerator magnets, flags, and postcards. The police presence quickly outnumbered the group and stopped them as they tried to enter Vatican Square. Protests were not allowed in the Vatican said the police. But we are here to deliver a petition, the group responded. But you are carrying signs said the police. We can put the signs down responded the group. But the women are dressed like priests and that is a protest the police insisted. But we are legitimately ordained priests they told the authorities. After much back and forth with Vatican authorities the police said Fr. Roy could go into Vatican Square because he was a real priest. When Fr. Roy insisted all the priests, men and women, should be allowed to enter, an undercover policeman violently grabbed the banners away from those peacefully holding them and the authorities arrested Fr. Roy, Erin Saiz Hannah who the police decided organized the event, and Miriam Duignan, who was acting as the translator. Erin and Miriam were jammed into a police car and with lights flashing and sirens blasting were taken away. Fr. Roy was taken away in another police car. After several hours’ detention inside the Rome police station, the three were released after they signed statements promising to return to Italy if the investigating magistrate decided to try them on the charges of protesting without a permit. The banners were seized as evidence and not returned.[/quote] more here: http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/10/25/challenging-the-old-boys-network-in-the-vatican/ N'

Feral Skeleton

26/10/2011Ad Astra, That CPI figure was the only thing that knocked the Queen off the ABC24 coverage, and only because ABC24 expected it to be 0.6% or above. When it came in at 0.3% the Economics Editor, without skipping a beat, emphasised that it made inflation 2.3% for the year, right in the middle of the Reserve Bank's target band, thus perpetuating the narrative that rates will not fall next week but stay on hold. Because, if you can't have a 'Rates to Rise on Melbourne Cup Day' story to flog the government with, you have to craft a 'No Move' story instead, it seems, with which to take all the positive blowback for the government out of the equation.

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26/10/2011NormanK, Trevor Did you see the very good press conference of Andrew Wilkie today, where he said Tony Abbott had made a mistake in making his statements about pre-commitment pokies legislation, and later Nick Xenophon saying the same thing. It looks like Abbott’s prediction that the Coalition will not support the legislation and will rescind it in government has come back to bite him badly. It’s another example of what Abbott told Kerry O’Brien – that sometimes he says things in the heat of the moment that are not right, and that only scripted comments should be taken as gospel. In trying to curry favour with the people at the pokies meeting, Abbott virtually committed the Coalition, and now has to convince them to endorse his populist announcement, or if they won’t to work out how he’s going to squeeze out of the dilemma his loose opportunistic tongue has once more got him into. He'll need lots of forgiveness for this blue! And this man wants to be PM!!!!

TalkTurkey

26/10/2011Trevor Only since the Strine Guvmint introduced Dismal Guernsey . . . Speaking of dismal, I would think Abbortt's feeling pretty much that way right now. His life has peaked, palpably, in the last few days. It's like watching one of those dead-horse-stink-lilies when it suddenly all putresces. But the Coalons can't let go of him now, already or yet, they don't know what to do now their idiot hero is so plainly knock-kneed with fright at the thought of serious questioning and hard commitments, issuing forth crazy unworkable brainfarts where should be credible policy, all just as if not more intelligently articulated by Feral's Pussycat! Haven't heard much about Rudd plotting a comeback this last week eh! Instead, Ever'body talkin bout Abbortt's porkie-porkin. Time to start writing the Mad Bad Abbortt book: [b][i]The Fake's Regress [/i][/b] But let it not be all too quick . . . hee hee hee . . .

Jason

26/10/2011Aa, It seems you're not the only on having problems with News Ltd paywall! “News Limited staff are unhappy after being required to pay to read their own content behind The Australian’s new paywall. In an email sent to News staff last week, corporate affairs have offered the same three-month trial being marketed to ordinary punters, but with a “special staff discount of up to 50 per cent”. http://newmatilda.com/2011/10/26/news-ltd-journos-wrong-side-paywall

NormanK

26/10/2011Ad astra It is one thing to say to the electorate that the government has legislated some bad laws that will need to be repealed and altogether a different thing to say that every single thing that Labor has done in the last four years must be undone. It is an untenable position that Abbott has now adopted and he looks more and more desperate with every day. In the way that these things tend to play out, if the swinging voters decide that Abbott is exaggerating with his condemnation of everything, they will start to re-evaluate all of his statements over the last two years. I couldn't believe my eyes when I read Abbott's commitment to rescind the pokie reforms if they get through. He has overplayed his hand ever since the CEF Bills were passed. I suspect he will soon be irrelevant but his party will need to see a sustained downward trend in the polls before they move on him. If that occurs, I look forward to the pundits trying to wriggle out of their steadfast belief that Abbott was destined to be PM.

nasking

26/10/2011Norman (BTW, where is Lyn?), thnx for the link to Stephen Mayne's piece @ Crikey: [quote]It’s clear investors are very upset Rupert helped himself to a 47% pay rise to a record $US33.3 million even after the phone hacking scandal shattered the company’s reputation and cost shareholders hundreds of millions of dollars. As has been previously explained, US law is different to Australia because Rupert was able to vote his stake in favour of his own pay packet. The remuneration would have been comfortably defeated if News Corp was still based in Adelaide and the subject of the new two strikes law.[/quote] Yes...a real opportunistic character this Rupert...I woulda said "our Rupert"...but he's chosen not to be for power & moolah's sake. Rupert really is a greedy fcker...and he luvs to send out GREED WAVES across the planet by way of the empire he has created... trying to instil moral bankruptcy in each and every individual... hoping they will collide in a hellclone of greed...capturing in his tabloid pap the victims sprawled across the landscape... bloody & gored by the bull of insane rampant capitalist growth growth growth...that requires many many losers to keep some believing they are winners... ragged traumatised survivors of his orchestrated chaos with eyes wide shut glued to the sports screen...and boobs on the hyperbole pages...distracted...diverted...hopefully...so they do not see the man who is really a frightened little boy huddled in his corner of guilt... comes the waves of protest...even from within... no money nor shares nor poison pills nor reluctant allies nor partners in crime can hide the propaganda merchant, the cult leader w/ brainwashed boys now scarred, scapegoated men, the Moriarty of the faux news & infoblamement business from the glare of [i]the many[/i]. The clock ticks...and the boy purporting to be a man reaches for his money and tries to build an even bigger fort...in vain. And even the scarred boys now scapegoated men are forced to wake...no more pirate tales...no more treasure hiding...no more pretend grand adventures against the elite...not when Daddy is wearing the cloak of the emperor...the cloak of the black void... there's a wind...that sounds just like a clock...ticking... what say you Watson?... and Mayne? N'

Feral Skeleton

26/10/2011Jason, Why would News Ltd staff want to read others' work, or their own again, when surely they know it all off by heart? :)

Feral Skeleton

26/10/2011Nas, Abbott's behaviour reminds one of that Billy Joel song, 'Ballad of the Angry Young Man'. And the only reason he qualifies as a 'Young Man' is because he has never grown up!

Gravel

26/10/2011Ad Astra Don't worry, the MSM will look after Sir Liealot's little gaff. I saw the interview with Wilkie, he was making excuses for abbott left right and centre. I, like Feral Skeleton, read Bushfire Bill's comment and then got sucked into reading more and wasting time.

Jason

26/10/2011How to sidestep The Oz paywall http://i.imgur.com/v81no.png

NormanK

26/10/2011Nasking Lyn took the month of October off to visit with her daughter so you're stuck with me 'til at least the end of the week.

psyclaw

26/10/2011Heard John Laws when travelling today, saying that whilst Bolt is a good man, Laws disagreed with his article in the Telegraph. So I had a look at a free copy in a coffee house. Bolt has written in usual spiteful style about how bad Rudd is.... it was a crap topic and particularly poorly put together prose..... a very quick glance was all that was needed. Calls him "fast Buck Kevin" because he wasted so much of our hard earned on pink bats and BER....... apparently Telegraph readers are still interested in that claptrap. What caught my eye in another small (News Ltd) article about CHOGM was the mention of Labor's Newspoll result this week .... "a slight improvement in the 2PP" ...gratuitious, patronising, hidden. No headline for this, not because they think it was only minor, but because they don't want to acknowledge any rise. I note that Canon conduct a consumer poll this time each year. The current one measured the first half of this year and is the strongest ever for national purchases of entertainment hi-tech equipment With expenditure of $2.8 billion on 6.5 million items, it really shows what a "poor" job the treasurer is doing. The economy is soooo bad that we are making record purchases in this area.

nasking

26/10/2011Newt Gingrich, Don of the Grand Old Rich Men & Poor Kooks' Party, blowharded at a recent Republican debate the following: [quote]How can I trust you with power if you don't pray?[/quote] Indeed. Praying to mythical beings is essential to gain the trust of many Americans. I think we're well aware of the altar that some richer folk than others pray at: [quote]Mitt Romney and Herman Cain, currently the leading candidates for the Republican nomination, say that their private sector experience qualifies them for the presidency. They argue, in essence, that there is nothing special about politics and political systems – that what they learned running firms like Bain Capital and Godfather’s Pizza is what they need to know to be president.[/quote] http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-leadership/herman-cain-and-mitt-romney-whens-the-last-time-a-ceo-was-elected-president/2011/10/25/gIQAeRvOGM_story.html You guessed it. Altar of the God of Essential Services. What more could America ask for during economic malaise...than super-efficient pizza delivery...private equity firms wearing hoods working overtime...with oodles of oil splashing about courtesy of a stiff Perry & a Koch or two? Plus ce change... going down anyone? N'

nasking

26/10/2011[quote]Lyn took the month of October off to visit with her daughter so you're stuck with me 'til at least the end of the week. [/quote] No problemo Norman...yer doin' a fine job. Grassyarse. I hope Lyn has a well deserved enjoyable time off. N'

nasking

26/10/2011[quote]How to sidestep The Oz paywall [/quote] Jason, why would you bother? Are you a masochist? ;) N'

nasking

26/10/2011[quote]Abbott's behaviour reminds one of that Billy Joel song, 'Ballad of the Angry Young Man'. And the only reason he qualifies as a 'Young Man' is because he has never grown up![/quote] Feral, I imagine at some point next year Abbott will be listenin' to: Ben Folds Five: [b]Song for the Dumped[/b] He's created a tangled, very sticky web that's caught up his own party and it will be hard to escape. Silly boy. N'

nasking

26/10/2011Rick Perry, Herman Cain, Donald Trump, Rupert Murdoch, Roger Ailes, Koch bros, Rush Limbaugh, Grover Norquist and the gang shrug... then the flat tax flattens the many... flattens their hospitals... flattens their schools... flattens their childcare... flattens their wages & conditions... flattens their lives... like an earthquake... as the last burden shifts from the rich to the many... but at least under the flattened building there's enuff room for you to smoke, booze, gobble fast food and watch the latest celebrity ad pap & empire sports on yer mobile... and be handed thru the cracks the oxygen mask, antacids and blood pressure pills in later life...possibly by the nannies & servants of the shruggers... and you already have yerself a readymade grave. Flat tax...coming to flatten YOU sometime soon. N'

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26/10/2011Folks I've just posted [i]The enigma of the 'overarching narrative'[/i]: http://www.thepoliticalsword.com
I have two politicians and add 2 more; how many are there?