Crowded out by IT

As we all now know, Rebekah Brooks has resigned from her position as CEO of News International. Furthermore, she was later arrested by London police on suspicions of phone hacking and corruption.

However, if she is brought to trial and acquitted, where will she go? Will she help out in a leper colony run by Mother Teresa’s nuns? Or get a gig as a Page Three model in The Sun? Or maybe she’ll head off down under?

But, a crucial question is, “why did she actually resign from News International?”

The Political Sword brings you an exclusive account of the dramatic events surrounding Rebekah’s last few hours as a Murdoch head-kicker. So remember, you read about it here first, on THE POLITICAL SWORD!

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You couldn’t quite see his arse through the seat of his threadbare pants yet, but times aren’t nearly as good for Rupes Murdoch as they used to be.

All this kerfuffle over the News of the World has caused the value of his assets to diminish somewhat, with the latest setback being his inability to pay the wages of the Page Three Girls at The Sun.

Feeling besieged in his Unadax Ranch, high up on the Arizona plains, Rupes is taking this particular setback pretty hard, as the Page Three lovelies have become an institution within his organisation over the years.

However, one of his intrepid offsiders, Rebekah “Jen” Brooks, has been tasked with solving the problem of meeting the Page Three deadline. For Jen, the solution is simple: get a nudie photo from a copy of Playboy she has found, photocopy it, and fax it to The Sun, in time for their print run.

But, what a time for the photocopier to play up! And especially as Rupes has run up some many debts in the local community, he can’t get a technician to come within cooee of the place. Why, he even had to go cap in hand to his neighbour, Sen John McCain, to cadge a tank-full of aviation fuel for his private jet.

In a previous life, as the “Relationships Manager” of Reinhold Industries (Australia), Jen would have passed on such mundane tasks to her two geeky underlings, Moss Conroy and Roy Quigley, aka The IT Crowd. She misses them so much. Maybe she should ask for their help again?



Rupes has racked his brains for a long-term answer to this cash-flow problem he is encountering. But to no avail. “How on goddam Earth am I going to ensure I can pay my Page Three Girls?” he self-torturously asks himself. Therefore, he has instructed Jen to make it her priority and come up with a solution.

Meanwhile, in her office, Jen is driving herself to distraction, trying to think of a way to contact her old colleagues at Reinhold Industries (Australia). She reminisces over the good old days when the two lads would come to her rescue and somehow get her out of some mess or other. That they, with their school-boy pranks, had caused the mess in the first place however, was neither here nor there. After all, they all got paid at the end of the day. Which Jen won’t, if she doesn’t come up with the goods this time.

How will she make contact? Phone? Nah – the bastards never answered it when it rang, ever. They used to stare blankly at it, a bit like the Head of the RAN when he knew Tony Abbott was trying to contact him on his boatphone.

Send them an email? Nope – ever since the Godwin Grech episode, they refused to even open their emails, claiming they were all forgeries.

“Anyway”, Jen admits to herself, “I’m only fooling myself here, as I don’t know how to phone Australia, or work a computer. All I know is how to press a button on a photocopier, and the only one we have here doesn’t bloody work”.

Then, Jen has a brainwave.

“I’ll send my pet carrier pigeon, the supersonic one I’ve had since my time at Reinhold Industries! Those two nerds are always time-wasting and looking out the window, so when it lands on their sill, they’ll be only too glad of a distraction, see the message around its little leg, and come to my rescue!”

Jen puts her master-plan immediately into action and the world-record breaking carrier pigeon flies to and from Australia in two shakes of a lamb’s tail. The two lads reply that they “will be delighted to help our old colleague out”.

But what the two geeks actually said to each other was, “Wow! – a free trip to the States, plus another chance to take the piss out of Jen – who would be foolish enough to turn those offers down...hee...hee...” In the carrier-pigeon message, however, they don’t tell her that since her day, Reinhold Industries has been taken over and re-named. They’ll break that to her when they get there.

So, Rupes’ private jet, with the two Aussie lads on board, lands on the runway in front of the Unadax complex, and the now almost-penurious mogul and his trusty assistant, Jen, gratefully watch it taxi to a halt. If the truth be known, however, the flight might not have happened. Earlier, the pilot, who hadn’t been paid for a few weeks, got all bolshie and threatened to go on strike. However, he soon changed his tune when Rupes told him if he didn’t “get in that goddam cockpit”, he would be flying Black Hawks over Somalia again (and on WorkChoices), before he could say “Karl Freakin’ Marx”!

As they watch the two down-under trouble-shooters walk up to the Unadax front door, Rupes and Jen hug each other, in anticipation of their photocopier getting fixed. However, they can’t also help but feel a tinge of apprehension as they notice the lack of growth in the untended flower-beds adjacent to the ranch building.

Coming back to reality, however, Jen then leaves Rupes’ office and walks down to the front door to welcome her two erstwhile colleagues. She ushers them quickly into the building and escorts them immediately up to Rupes’ office.

However, upon entering, Moss and Roy notice a few things that are a bit on the queer side. Firstly, Rupes is on the phone. Nothing strange about that, except he is holding an old kitchen tap to his ear. Sensing their puzzlement, Jen whispers to the lads.

Jen: Erm...its not really a phone, y’know...Actually, since the price of his shares dropped, he hasn’t paid the bill, so they cut him off...Therefore, we gave him the tap and tell him, every now and then, the famous private detective, Jim Rockford is on the line, wanting some instructions about whose phone he wants him to tap next...He’s actually only talking to himself...sad, really...

[Rupes delivers a gob-full of four-letter expletives down the tap, castigating “Jim” for not being successful at tapping Barack Obama’s phone, and recording him admitting he goes to bed in a burqa nightie.]

Moss (whispering): Jeeze...all that swearing...he’d make Tony Abbott sound like a Trappist monk during Lent...

Jen: Nah...he’s harmless...he’s happiest when he’s sledging anyway...

[The lads also notice something else strange in Rupes’ office. There are boxes and boxes of Royal Doulton stacked ceiling-high against one of the walls.]

Roy (also whispering): Pssttt...Jen...what gives with all the Royal Doulton...I thought you said the old guy was on the bones of his arse...

Jen: Yeah, but they’re only cheap, Hong Kong fakes...he got them for next to nothing on E-Bay, from a bloke called Arthur...

Moss: But...but...but...what does he need all that crockery for?

Jen: Oh, we pass it off as the real stuff...It’s bribes, really...for the Royal Protection Officers to tell us if the corgis have done their number two’s that day...our readers find that sort of information really interesting, for some reason...

[Suddenly, Rupes bangs the tap down on the desk, luckily just missing the little snow globe poised precariously on the edge.]

Rupes: Well, well, well...if it isn’t the two geeks from The IT Crowd...I hope you two are up to the task of fixing my photocopier, so that Jen can get my business back on an even keel, and the Page Three Girls get paid...

Roy (indignantly): Huh...fixing a mangy photocopier is nothing! We’re the brains behind the NBN in Australia, I’ll have you know...

[At the mention of the hated phrase, “NBN”, a mist redder than Tony Abbott’s budgie smugglers descends upon Rupes. He pulls a shotgun out from under his desk, brandishing it menacingly.]

Rupes (hysterically): Why, you dirty commo layabouts...That f***ing NBN is going to bankrupt me completely, y’know...I’ll show you how we deal with commo leftie upstarts around here...

[Before Rupes can take aim and send the two cyber nerds back to Australia in little pieces, Jen thankfully intervenes by plonking herself on Rupes’ knee and, simultaneously, sucking like blazes on her thumb.]

Jen: Oh, Daddykins...don’t be angry...the two nice boys are here to help us...remember the broken photocopier and how we are unable to take copies of the nudies to send to The Sun for page three?

[By this stage, Moss and Roy are so shit scared, they feel like they have swallowed a whole crate of Senocot tablets, washed down by a couple of litres of prune juice.]

Moss (grovellingly): Erm...yeah...and the NBN we work for isn’t that nasty one you’re thinking of, sir...in fact, its a totally different NBN we work for – the Nice Boobs News, in fact, sir...

Rupes: Oh, that’s different then...you three need to get cracking and fix my photocopier...And by the way, Jen...I wish you wouldn’t sit on my knee and suck your thumb like that...It isn’t hygienic...and anyway, you’re squishing my willy...

[Jen is livid. She can’t believe this guy has insinuated she’s fat! She jumps up off Rupes’ knee, beckoning the much-relieved geeks to join her. They rapidly high-tail it out of Rupes’ office and proceed to the photocopier room. The two boyos get to it and, at the same time, rib Jen about her lack of knowledge about computers and such like. But she knows it’s all harmless banter and, for the moment, she forgets she has overdosed, thanks to Rupes, on her angry pills and all the fond memories of her time at Reinhold Industries (Australia) come flooding back.]

Jen (laughing): Do you guys remember the time when that sleaze from Accounts...Declan Stephenson, I think his name was...was stalking me and...I think it was you, Roy...pulled up your tee-shirt...tee...hee...leaned over the photocopier...and then sent the picture to his email address, saying it was my bare chest...He certainly stopped following me after that, I can tell you...haw...haw...

[Jen is nearly wetting herself laughing when, eventually, she notices the two geeks aren’t joining in with the hilarity, and are in fact looking a bit sheepish.]

Moss: Erm...Jen...I hate to tell you this...but...ahhh...that photocopy we sent Declan...erm...well...do you remember our IT Section’s Christmas party when you got pissed and insisted on boasting to everyone how good you were at using the photocopier...

[Jen pauses for a moment or two to think.]

Jen: Nah! I wouldn’t have...Tell me I didn’t, guys...

[The two larrikins burst out laughing, putting Jen back at ease, and proceed to fix the machine. For tech-heads of their calibre, it is a walk in the park. Soon, Roy is reliving old memories by pulling up his tee-shirt and testing out the machine by copying his chest.

However, whilst the boys were fixing the machine, Jen got to thinking. After a long pensive pause, she can’t help but blurt out.]

Jen: I’ve made up my mind guys...I’m getting out of here...There’s no way I’m gonna put up with old misery guts any longer...I’m flying back to Oz with you...I could start off at the bottom again...Do you think the editor of the Woop Woop Weekly Warbler would give me a job?

[The two lads look awkwardly at each other.]

Maurice: Listen! The pilot’s revving the engines – we better get on board...

[Meanwhile, back in Rupes’ office, he is on the tap again. This time, it’s Bob Brown who’s copping it for daring to suggest a Senate Inquiry into the media in Australia. Eventually, he slams down the tap and stares out the window. He notices his private jet taking off. “Great”, he thinks to himself, “those two fair dinkum Aussie boys must have fixed the photocopier and gone home”.]

Rupes drags his weary body into the copier room. Unfortunately, he has left his glasses on the desk, but manages a quick squiz at a few pikkies in the out-tray.]

Rupes (shouting in ecstasy): Brilliant, Jen! You can fax these off to The Sun immediately...

[Rupes’ entreaties to Jen are but pearls thrown to swine...the empty, forbidding edifice of his soulless ranch throws them back, mockingly, in his wizened face.]

Rupes: Hurry up there, lass! I think we’ve turned the corner...Where are you, Jen? If you don’t get in here quick, we’ll miss the page three deadline...

[On the high, drought-stricken plains of Arizona, the unrelenting winds sift the shallow soils interminably. Here, there’ll be no roses budding for a while...if ever...]

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Disclaimer:

No life-threatening injuries were inflicted upon the pigeon in forcing it to reveal details of events upon which this report is founded. Needless to say, however, it will no longer be able to participate in supersonic flights to Australia.

Update:

A private jet, en route to Australia, was impounded by authorities at Heathrow Airport, where it had stopped for re-fuelling. It is alleged that the pilot and three passengers had attempted to do a runner without paying for the fuel. After establishing the identity of the ringleader, a 43-year-old female known only as “Jen”, police have also charged her with multiple counts of photocopier abuse. The other two passengers have been released on bail and are reported to have gone feral and are working as illegal aliens in a shady internet cafe in the notorious Soho district.

Keep tuned in for further developments on these unfolding stories. Readers are encouraged to add any other tit-bits, true or not, they have heard, in the space below.

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Lyn

18/07/2011Good Evening Acerbic Conehead Congratulations on another fabulous example of your talent.Acerbic Conehead, do you laugh all the time or only think laughter. What did I hear someone say, poor Rupert would be worried he is not printing any news about News of the World, because the phones would be buzzing out there for the past week or so, all those lucrative conversations down the drain. [quote]Rupert Murdoch must be so frustrated having to shut News of the World when there's so much sensational news about NOTW[/quote] Oh well! Liars always loose and cheaters never win. What did Rupert say "Sorry but I meant it" Finally, after decades, some honesty from the Murdoch king, We Got Caught http://antonyloewenstein.com/2011/07/18/finally-after-decades-some-honesty-from-the-murdoch-king/ Cheers :):):):):):):)

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18/07/2011AC Thank you for yet another piece of clever satire on a subject of great contemporary interest. With the rate things are changing in this story every day, you may have to send us updates. Folks I'm calling it a day to watch [i]Q&A[/i] and [i]Lateline[/i].

Acerbic Conehead 2

18/07/2011Good evening, Lyn and AA and thanks for your comments. It only struck me the other day that I haven’t posted a musical interlude for a while so here’s a nice ditty from [i]Snow Patrol[/i]. Tony Abbott is fresh from walking both sides of the street today on reducing carbon emissions. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/carbon-plan/global-fears-wont-stall-carbon-tax-plan/story-fn99tjf2-1226096840377 Sing along with him as he capriciously crosses the road, “Chasing Cars”. :- ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbLkdXNLk2o :- ( I’ll spin it all Everything With my moan :- ( We don't need A carbon tax On anything :- ( If I lie here If I just lie here Would you lie with me and just forget the world? :- ( I don't quite know How to say Truthful words :- ( Three word terms I say too much Don’t give a stuff :- ( If I lie here If I just lie here Would you lie with me and just forget the world? :- ( Just do as yer told If not, you’ll just get rolled Give me what I want, or I’ll wreck the whole joint :- ( Pulling stunts Kissing fish Foolin’ the dills :- ( If I lie here If I just lie here Would you lie with me and just forget the world? :- ( Forget what you’re told In a talk three hours old What’s 5 per cent of emissions between friends :- ( All that I am All that I ever was Is here in my perfect lies, they're all what is me :- ( I don't know when Gillard’s gonna fall over But if she doesn’t, my mortgage’s gonna play hell :- ( If I lie here If I just lie here Would you lie with me and just forget the world?

Patricia WA

19/07/2011AC - how could you not have included Tony Abbott in this, of all your spoofs! He would have loved to help Rupes out with some nudie shots of himself for Page 3! Now that the winds of change seem to be blowing through the media here he will be suffering more acutely than usual from his long standing health problem, low level attention disorder. LLAD, can easily be recognised when sufferers constantly seek opportunities to be photographed in incresingly bizarre situations and poses in varying degrees of nudity.

Lyn

19/07/2011 From: lyn Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 10:17 PM To: lyn Subject: LINKS 19TH JULY [b]TODAY’S LINKS [/b] [i]Campaign to reform Australia’s dodgy media landscape, Independent Australia[/i] News Corp engage in attempts at regime change through the hostile and biased presentation of newsstories, commentary and opinion pieces under the guise of “fair and balanced” journalism http://www.independentaustralia.net/2011/democracy/ia%e2%80%99s-campaign-to-reform-australia%e2%80%99s-dodgy-media-landscape/ [i]leaked Memo Abbott’s first 100 days in office, Barry Everingham, Independent Australia[/i] The results of the latest opinion poll bears out what I have always believed — the public will buy anything. http://www.independentaustralia.net/2011/humour/leaked-memo-abbotts-first-100-days-in-office/?utm [i]Stoking the carbon tax resentment, Mungo MacCallum, The Drum[/i] Abbott, however, has taken the idea to a new and far more dangerous level. He is now signalling that he is ready andwilling to drag the whole country into recession to achieve his ambition.Ignoring the scientists, economists, the CSIRO, the Federal Treasury, the http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/2799154.html [i]Poor Bloody Dennis, Neil Cook, The Bannerman[/i] The Shanahan article, which isn’t news in any way, shape or form, is precisely that. Crap. Jingoism. Playing to the gullible and those wanting their ideology stroked. As Bob Brown opined, we don’t have NEWSpapers we have VIEWSpapers http://www.waddayano.org/blog/2011/07/poor_bloody_dennis.php#more [i]Is this News Limited’s Defense? Geoffrey Baker, Inside Story[/i] Criticism of Murdoch’s Australian publications is focused on what is seen as their relentless pursuit of a political agenda overwhelmingly hostile to the federal Labor government and its key initiatives, including the carbon tax, national broadband network and asylum-seeker http://inside.org.au/is-this-news-limited%E2%80%99s-defence/ [i]Abbott’s 3m vision – misogyny, mediocrity and mendacity, Mark Thompson, Seeking Asylum Down Under[/i] paint your opponent as the 'liar'. I haven't heard an ounce of truth from any of Abbott's apologists, and certainly not from the man himself.He lies for a living and as good as admitted it in a notorious 7.30 report interview. Yet, he has the gall to fashion a political scare campaignaround the central motif of the PM having lied about a carbon tax. http://seekingasylumdownunder2.blogspot.com/ [i]Abbott Smells a Dud – Check Yourself, Mate.,Moth, New Anthropocene[/i] Abbott’s tax is the dud. It’s a joke and it will be remembered for pinching the tail of the beast rather than muzzling its gluttonous mouth.Worse than that, we the public will be mocked for listening to such absurd media outlets and falling for baseless indignation. http://newanthropocene.wordpress.com/2011/07/18/abbotts-smells-a-dud/ [i]It’s Rhyme Time Kids, The Conscience Vote[/i] Since his defeat in 2010, Abbott has never let up on the accusation that in some way, the Coalition are the rightful government, and the machinations of those dastardly Independents thwarted ‘the will of the people’. It’s not quite ‘We was robbed!’, but it’s close. http://consciencevote.wordpress.com/ [i]The company that actually does censor the news, projecting again, Jeremy Sear, Pure Poison[/i] News Ltd is not keen on the idea of having its dominant position in the media landscape questioned. So, unsurprisingly, its various polemicists got very angry last week when Bob Brown called for a media inquiry, http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/ [i]Weekly Open Thread 18-22 July, Jeremy Sear, Pure Poison[/i] see if the shameless hacks lined up against them can keep stretching out their utterly false “Gillard is a liar” meme whilst continuing to sell papers http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2011/07/18/weekly-open-thread-18-22-july/ [i]The unfolding impact of the Murdoch media crisis, Brian McNair, The Conversation[/i] News Ltd, controlling more than two thirds of press circulation, in addition to Sky News (and remember – it was precisely a concern about the combination of print and broadcast ownership which so alarmed the Brits and has brought News International to its knees) has for some time now functioned as a cheerleaderfor the Coalition, and a relentless campaigner against the government on issues such as http://theconversation.edu.au/the-unfolding-impact-of-the-murdoch-media-crisis-2371?utm [i]Weekly “what the…?!, Poltical Tarot[/i] Despite not winning the title of PM, this week I’ll award Tony the prize for the politician who most resembles a toddler being dragged screaming from the lolly isle – sorry, Lodge. http://politicaltarot.com/2011/07/weekly-what-the-3/ [i]#mediafail – The death of Australian political journalism, Massivespray, Spray of the day[/i] We, the amateurs of the blogosphere need to stand up and be counted. I’ve read far more detailed analysis and reporting in the numerous blogs I read than anything else I can pick from one on the major news organs. http://sprayoftheday.wordpress.com/2011/07/18/mediafail-the-death-of-australian-political-journalism/ [i]The Murdoch media game-changer, Stephen Mayne, ABC[/i] Tony Abbott has predictably shown no interest in any media inquiry and why would he given that News Ltd has transformed itself into a war machine against the Gillard Government and carbon pricing .http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/2798930.html [i]ABC to cover Murdoch committee appearance on digital station, The Spy Report[/i] The ABC will launch a "popup" digital radio station this week to cover the parliamentary committee hearings featuring evidence from News Corporation executives.The station, ABC UK Newsgate, will commence transmission at 8:00pm on Tuesday, broadcasting content from the ABC's radio archives about the Murdoch family.From 11:30pm, it will http://www.mediaspy.org/report/2011/07/17/abc-to-cover-murdoch-committee-appearance-on-digital-station/ [i]Ranking the 16 News Corp directors for independence as regime change looms, Stephen Mayne, Crikey[/i] The stock fell more than 7% in Australia this morning and more than $US10 billion has been wiped out by the Murdoch family’s incompetent handling of the hacking crisis.As value evaporates all around them, it’s time for the directors to intervene and executive some regime change at News Corp. http://www.crikey.com.au/2011/07/18/news-corp-directors-murdoch-family/#comments [i]At Home With Julia, Dan Barrett, White Noise[/i] “At Home With Julia” is a four-part comedy that promises to take us behind the closed doors of PM Julia Gillard and Tim Mathiesons relationship http://blogs.crikey.com.au/whitenoise/2011/07/18/at-home-with-julia/ [i]Conroy steps up attack on Daily Tele, Jeremy Thompson, Video, ABC[/i] Communications Minister Stephen Conroy has lashed out at Sydney's Murdoch-owned Daily Telegraph newspaper,accusing it of being intent on bringing down the Government. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-07-18/conroy-hits-out-at-daily-tele/2798528 [b]Newspapers:[/b] [i]Dirty Tricks in the Carbon Wars, Phillip Coorey, SMH[/i] Retailers say the hysteria being whipped up by the opposition is every bit as damaging as the confusion about how a price on carbon willoperate and affect people. ''I wish it would just extinguish itself,'' said one retail lobbyist of the debate http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/dirty-tricks-in-the-carbon-wars-20110717-1hjz4.html#ixzz1SQ9EWrZ0 [i]China plans carbon trading pilot scheme , SMH[/i] China has pledged to reduce the amount of carbon dioxide produced per unit of gross domestic product by 40 to 45 per cent by the end of 2020 - essentially a pledge to slow emissions growth, but not a cut. http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/china-plans-carbon-trading-pilot-scheme-20110718-1hl9z.html#ixzz1SSIN6bmO

Feral Skeleton

19/07/2011AcerbicC., Thank you for going to one of the best comedies of recent times, The IT Crowd, for inspiration, suitably enhanced by your good self. :) Now, I'm not so sure that Tony Abbott is capable of lying still on the road, or even in bed for that matter, such a manic monomaniacal Machiavellian mental black hole of malevolence that he is. One thing I do know, he's unable to lie straight in bed. Thank you again for your sterling efforts from the belly of the petit bougeoise Liberal beast in Perth. Um, you couldn't work something around 'Da Mighty Boosh' soon, could you? (K)

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19/07/2011LYN'S DAILY LINKS updated: http://www.thepoliticalsword.com/page/LYNS-DAILY-LINKS.aspx

Michael

19/07/2011Backdated Monday Bad Abbott http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/dirty-tricks-in-the-carbon-wars-20110717-1hjz4.html Shouldabeen's so determined to lie his way into the Lodge, his office's strategy is to blackmail anyone else associated with it and him to lie also. More of the same today. http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/abbott-pans-own-crazy-pollution-target-20110718-1hlpo.html Except the lies are coming from his own lips (well, duhh), in front of his favourite audience to scare, the old and easily made afraid, pensioners. Maybe someone should ask where his claimed 500% figure for a 'proposed' increase in Chinese emissions actually comes from. And if it proves true, maybe someone should point out that a country of 1,000 million people dragging itself into the 20th Century, forget the 21st almost everywhere outside the cities, just might have an increase in emissions in doing so. Does he want 500 to 700 million of the current 1 billion Chinese to stay in dirt poor poverty so that Australians can deny our own responsibility to help clean up the fouled air of this planet? Well, yes, I think that IS what he's saying. Which makes him not only callous, it makes him racist. Just the sort of fair dinkum PM we'd so love to see making his first official visit to Beijing. Or anywhere the locals might just have the slightest tint about them, but not quite so many light bulbs in the house, or cars in the garage. Representing Australia to the world.

Patricia WA

19/07/2011Good morning, Lyn, I'm just up. I'm hoping your links will give me another lift after my late night catching up on the last few days reading. Oddly after a depressing start with those polls I'd felt a difference in the ABC through the day. Started to tell AC about this when my computer started to jamd again. But I had saved! I'll post that before it happens again. AC, got jammed again so did not see your sweet song with The Oz reference before I commented above. I've just read it. lol! Abbott wasn't lying, really! He was talking to seniors, after all, old folks like me, sort of simplifying things a bit! Anyway whatever he said they'll have forgotten it by tomorrow, won't they? Seems the Oz has decided not to let him forget it though. That's the real story. Did you see the comments? Much more balanced than any I've seen so far in News Ltd on carbon pricing. So the winds of change are blowing through the media generally do you think? More than a light breeze today on the ABC with Stephen Conroy getting the better of (Sabra Lane?) on am re The Telegraph and Murdoch in general this morning with video clip of that on TV this evening. And what about pm this evening? http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2011/s3272060.htm With Mark Colvin introducing Stephen Long's clear rebuttal of Abbot's spin on carbon pricing unequivocally [quote]Tony Abbott has played down the contributions of economists and climate scientists to such an extent that some are worried that evidence will take a back seat in the carbon price debate. [/quote] Also lots of footage of the PM looking lovely and sounding strong on most ABC news programs this evening. Plenty of good coverage on the AWU decision to support carbon pricing. Paul Howes was given a good hearing on Lateline and he didn’t fall for any of Ali Moore’s cunning ploys trying to undermine the PM. I'm feeling better already. PS Four Corners did a pretty good job of showing what a sickening hypocrite is Andrew Forrest about Aboriginal people. You could see the contempt for him in K O'B's face. Old time colonial patronising prig! [b]I love you guys, so I'm going to screw you and your country too! And wasn't Jonathon Holmes terrific, Ad Astra!

Feral Skeleton

19/07/2011'Media Watch' could be an hour per week and it still wouldn't be able to cover all the mendacity and malevolence in the media. Still, I am overjoyed it's still there, even if only for 15 minutes per week. Also, last night's episode waas especially incisive.

Jason

19/07/2011House of Lords takes Monckton to task The British House of Lords has taken the extraordinary step of publishing an open letter reiterating that high-profile climate change sceptic Lord Christopher Monckton is not a member of the UK's Upper House. The House of Lords published a "cease and desist" letter on its website demanding that Lord Monckton stop claiming to be a member of the Upper House. It comes after Lord Monckton told ABC Radio's Adam Spencer that he is a member of the House of Lords, but that he does not have the right to sit or vote. The author of the letter, Clerk of the Parliaments David Beamish, writes to Lord Monckton: "I must therefore again ask that you desist from claiming to be a Member of the House of Lords, either directly or by implication, and also that you desist from claiming to be a Member "without the right to sit or vote". The letter says Lord Monckton is not and never has been a member of the House of Lords. It says that no-one denies Lord Monckton is a peer, but that is an entirely separate issue to membership of the House. Lord Monckton will address the National Press Club in Canberra later today. http://www.thepoliticalsword.com/post/2011/07/18/Crowded-out-by-IT.aspx

Lyn

19/07/2011Hi Patricia Good Morning to you . You have posted a very informative comment this morning a pleasure to read, thankyou Patricia. Wonder why your computer keeps jamming. Do you know how to use Disk Cleanup and how to defragment your hard disk? Should help your performance, and certainly won't do any harm to run both programs. You should find some good reading in "Todays Links" Cheers :):):):):)

Feral Skeleton

19/07/2011PatriciaWA, Minister Conroy was being interviewed by Alison Carabine. She's a member of the Canberra Press Gallery who does most of her work for Radio National and a daily spot on ABC 702 Sydney. She used to work for 2UE back in the day, so can get a bit bolshy sometimes, in an overtly sceptical way about Labor governments, but, to her credit, if she sees some flakiness from the Liberals she'll point that out too.

Feral Skeleton

19/07/2011Whenever you hear the Liberal Party talk about Vouchers for Schools, as it will probably be trotted out again in the run-up to the next election as one of their 'positive policies'(copyright Peter Reith) under the rubric of 'Parent Choice', this is what they really mean: http://thinkprogress.org/education/2011/07/11/265663/voucher-tea-party-go-away/

Feral Skeleton

19/07/2011Jason, Exactly, Lord Moncton is a Hereditary peer, which means he just automatically got the title at birth, not through any outstanding contribution to society, as the others have. Who knows, his forebears may have bought the title, as so many used to back in the day. They made their money in business and bought a title. Like used to happen here in Australia before the Labor Party got rid of the rort. Remember 'Sir' Robert Askin? Biggest crook of a NSW Premier unhung. Had his own bagman. Which reminds me of Sir Johannes Bjelke-Petersen. Who just had a BIG bagman named Rudd Hinze. :D

Feral Skeleton

19/07/2011Oops, Freudian slip. :$ Russ Hinze. (Cold fingers today)

NormanK

19/07/2011I told myself yesterday not to hold my breath waiting for the MSM to properly cover this statement from Mr Abbott. [quote]"The other crazy thing about this is that, at the same time that our country is proposing to reduce its emissions by 5 per cent, the Chinese are proposing to increase their emissions by 500 per cent," he said. "So any emissions reduction that we put in place will be wiped out in just a few days."[/quote] http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/carbon-plan/global-fears-wont-stall-carbon-tax-plan/story-fn99tjf2-1226096840377 Lucky I didn't because I would be blue in the face by now.[i] Channel Nine[/i] gave it a run, nothing on [i]Ten, SBS, ABC News[/i] or [i]7.30[/i]. I don't know about [i]Seven News[/i]. Rob Burgess has made reference to it this morning : [b]The great carbon dog-whistle[/b] by Rob Burgess [quote]The Coalition is watching this development like a hawk and responding with a long, loud dog-whistle. While paying lip service to the bipartisan target of a 5 per cent emissions reduction from 2000 levels by 2020, opposition leader Tony Abbott and Nationals leader Warren Truss are being careful to keep their pro-climate action utterances as amenable as possible to the unscientifically minded.[/quote] http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/Gillard-carbon-tax-Labor-Coalition-Abbott-energy-pd20110719-JVSZR?opendocument&src=rss The issue is being kept alive by members of the government talking about it this morning. [b]Abbott on Monckton bandwagon: PM[/b] (AAP) [quote]"Yesterday Tony Abbott apparently decided that cutting carbon is crap," she told ABC Radio in Newcastle, resurrecting the term Mr Abbott once used about the settled science of human-induced climate change. "Tony Abbott apparently decided to bandwagon with Lord Monckton and say that this nation should do nothing."[/quote] http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/abbott-on-monckton-bandwagon-pm-20110719-1hm5n.html What is not mentioned in any of the scarce coverage that his remarks have received is that Mr Abbott is advocating spending $10.5 billion of taxpayers' money to achieve an outcome which he has now described as 'crazy'. The figure is $30 billion plus if departmental estimates are to be believed. Where is the headline : [b]Abbott to blow 10 billion dollars on 'crazy' scheme[/b] Or given the press's great love of big numbers, especially when they have a document to back them up : [b]Abbott's $30 billion waste on 'crazy' emissions target[/b] Put it down to bias, a conspiracy, laziness or incompetence - which ever way you look at it we are being poorly served by our journalists when this level of deception is allowed to be perpetrated by the Leader of the Opposition without being called to account. PS Is TPS being particularly glitchy today or is it just me?

debbiep

19/07/2011~ PS Is TPS being particularly glitchy today or is it just me?~ normanK normank, it has been very glitchy for me also

Lyn

19/07/2011Hi Ad I thought you might like to play Murdoch Bingo tonight: Murdoch Bingo, Margaret Simons, The Content Makers The media junkies among us will be sitting up late tonight to watch the live coverage of the Murdoch family’s appearance before the British parliamentary committee. Dan Cass will be one of them, and he has forwarded me something to help the rest of us while away the time. He asks to be described as a “long time environmentalist fed up with deceptive reporting on climate change by Murdoch media over the years” http://blogs.crikey.com.au/contentmakers/2011/07/19/murdoch-bingo/ Cheers :):):):)

Gravel

19/07/2011Acerbic Conehead What a fantastic encore. I thought I might have missed a few days and woken up on the weekend to be greeted with this great post. Actually I won't be here on the weekend, going to visit grandkids....will catch up with weekend reading next week. NormanK It has taken me since 11am to get on TPS. Went over to have a look at poll bludger......lots of rubbish going on there, but also some good bits too. I am also glad you didn't hold your breath for the media to do headline reports on Abbott's latest flip flop. I think it will be a long time before we get to that stage. Patricia Glad you have your computer sorted, I missed you comments. Lyn Okay now I'll have to spend a couple of hours reading all your links, they sound so fascinating. Thank you millions for all your hard work.

Lyn

19/07/2011Hi Gravel I saw that BSA Bob said you are Young Gravel, that was nice, but I think you are just an "antique little girl", how sweet you are. We all love you to bits with your well informed sincere genuine comments. Gravel you know your Grandkids will keep you on your toes, but TPS is the best for your brain. Here is a petition regarding the newpaper reporting in Australia: Inquiry into Australian media 342 Signatures, Published by David Donovan Published by David Donovan on Jul 17, 2011 Background (Preamble): Follows the discovery of widespread unethical and illegal activities by News Corporation in the United Kingdom, the Australian people have concerns over these practices happening in Australia, especially given [b]News Corporation control around 70 per cent of major Australian newspapers and significant other media interests in this country. [/b] Only a wide ranging Inquiry into all aspects of the conduct of the media in this country will satisfy public concerns. http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/inquiry-into-australian-media.html Cheers :):):):):):):)

Feral Skeleton

19/07/2011It has been a very glitchy day on TPS, to be sure, and still is. I think the Web Monkey should be called into service by his Organ Grinder, Ad Astra, before the world thinks that TPS is a site too glitchy to visit.

jj

19/07/2011Bonjor... i am back! Well after spending two weeks out of the country and avoiding all the political news from back home i was super suprised at what i came back to! I thought the announcement of the tax details was supposed to destroy the Abbott scare campaign? Things just seem to have got worse for poor old Jules and co. Murdoch is finally getting a bit of a shakeup overseas, however an inquiry into the Australian Media is stretching the UK bow a bit too far (once again the greens forcing the governments hand). This whole government advertising thing is just going to blow up in their face again (didnt Julia learn anything from the Rudd governments mistakes)! And Julia's attempts at shedding a tear at the National Press club did nothing to help the publics perception that she is a PM that does anything to win votes/ is not a strong and decisive leader. Everythinh seems to be going wrong for your side of politics at the moment, all we are waiting for now is the first federal MP domino to fall; either by crossing the floor, getting sick or having some sort of corruption scandal break out.

Patricia WA

19/07/2011Thanks for the Murdoch Bingo link, Lyn! I always read Margaret Simons articles. She's a good head. It was nice to see her on video recently being interviewed about Murdoch's come-uppance. Now where was it? By the way re. Murdoch has anyone a link to a printable and legible copy of those final crosswords where the NotW staff managed to get their feelings expressed and past the News Corp imperial censor? I'd love to download them, and work on them of course! Some of the clues I've seen already sound deliciously devious and probably truly descriptive of the ruthless Rebekah. While over at Crikey I read and commented on the usual gratuitous and unfounded slighting comment about the Prime Minister and her government. That's at http://www.crikey.com.au/2011/07/19/crikey-says-crazy-is-as-crazy-does/ if anyone feels like adding a [b]"Here! Here!"[/b] for me. Come on, girls, you liked the idea of being in AA's leftie cheer squad! http://polliepomes.wordpress.com/2011/05/17/ad-astras-cheer-squad/ I think I'm going to have to re-name it though and include more of us like Gravel. And what about debbiep - she's turning up here often enough for me to be curious about her talents too! Anyone else wanting to join? Give us your names and we'll write a line or two about each of you. Then we can get out there and cheer for a truly prime Prime Minister! Which brings me to our new friend Stephen Lazarus Graysun and his lovely new wordpress site. I haven't yet commented there for a good reason. I have a couple of unpleasant cyberstalkers who given half a chance would swoop in there and wreck the joint. God knows how they track one down, it's like sharks able to smell blood in water from miles away. I've contacted genuine friends on Facebook directly and told them I no longer comment there. Sites like this do protect identities, of course, so I've managed to contain it all somewhat. At my own polliepomes site I don't engage in email exchanges with anyone who comments there that I don't know well. Might I suggest that Stephen could collect all the wonderful compliments made about the Prime Minister by people all over cyberspace and quite legitimately quote them as 'Comments' on his site, with appropriate links and acknowledgement of course. Anyone want to comment on that idea?

Patricia WA

19/07/2011PS - forgot to link to Lazarus! http://thankyoujuliagillardproject.aussieblogs.com.au/

Feral Skeleton

19/07/2011NormanK, I'm glad you didn't hold your breath, the media is too busy waiting for the PM to trip, stumble and fall and using pop psycholgy to analyse her personality to be actually interested in dealing with the reality of Tony Abbott's ongoing utterances. And hey, there may be another poll out in a couple of days that they can use to continue to beat the government about the head some more with. You want to know an interesting theory I came up with? The reason the media, and by extension, I suppose, the electorate are so enamoured of Tony Abbott, is because they are still in love with John Howard. They decided that Howard himself had passed his Use By Date and so he got turfed. He was replaced with the closest thing the nation had to a young John Howard in 2007, the ALP's version of John Howard, Kevin Rudd. Now, as we know, Julia Gillard is nothing like John Howard, so everyone has soured on her. She's not even like Margaret Thatcher! So, guess who the electorate has decided they want now? The Love Child of John Howard and Australia's version of Margaret Thatcher, Bronwyn Bishop. Sheesh! One who is prepared to outlie, outslime his opposition the government, and out-dog whistle his political old man, Howard. And like a bunch of sadomasochists, masochists because they let Abbott treat them like dirt, and sadists because Abbott allows them to behave that way towards the PM and her government, they are lovin' it!

Lyn

19/07/2011Hi Patricia Glad you asked for the picture of the final crossword, because I meant to file that page as well, but forgot. [quote]Might I suggest that Stephen could collect all the wonderful compliments made about the Prime Minister by people all over cyberspace[/quote] Patricia that's a top idea, did you hear Mr Abbott last night change his words to "it's not the Prime Minister that is the problem", "it's the Policies". So I thought straight away, how many times has he said nasty things about Julia in the last year, a lot. Then I thought umm, I might go and collect some of those nasty personal words Mr Abbott, you are doing another 180degree turnaround. But Patricia your idea of Lazarus! collecting the nice words and putting on their website is a much more constructive idea. The Mirror copy is a good one for you to work on: News of the World staff let off steam with cryptic crossword insults Daily Mirror UK SACKED News of the World staff had the last laugh over News International chief Rebekah Brooks yesterday – by burying a host of insults allegedly directed at her in the newspaper’s crossword. The page 47 puzzle was loaded with less-than subtle digs at the former editor over her decision to cling to her job. The clues and answers hinted the furious axed staff a were having a dig at her. But, however angry the News of the World staff were at Mrs Brooks, they would not let her stop them hitting the pub. The clue to eight down was “We’re off to get a jug”. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/2011/07/11/news-of-the-world-staff-let-off-steam-with-cryptic-crossword-insults-115875-23262693/ The News of the World's crossword page in its final edition. [b]Photo: The Atlantic[/b] 'Brooks, catastrophe': Last laugh for NoTW staff as final crossword takes aim at Rebekah The Cryptic Crossword appears to go even further, including the hints "criminal enterprise", "mix in prison", "string of recordings", and "will fear new security measure". Another clue was "woman stares wildly at calamity", with suggestions it refers to a photograph of Mrs Brooks as she left the News International HQ in east London on Thursday after staff were told the paper would be shut down. http://www.smh.com.au/world/brooks-catastrophe-last-laugh-for-notw-staff-as-final-crossword-takes-aim-at-rebekah-20110711-1h9p4.html#ixzz1SWlE4vPf Cheers :):):):):):):)

Feral Skeleton

19/07/2011So jj has finally come out of the closet and admitted he is part of the Coalition Royal(ist)'We'(e). Always thought he was an unprincipled scumbag troll. Now I know it. Just like the King of the Unprincipled Scumbag Trolls, Tony Abbott, who is now daily lying to people that he meets in order to keep his House of Cards of lies about Climate Change and his Pathetic Action policy, upstanding. What a joke jj is, trying to say that the Gillard government is doing everything wrong. And if it is 'wrong' to never compromise your integrity, how does that song go? 'If that is wrong, I don't want to be right.' Because 'right' according to jj is Tony Abbott, who panders to people's base instincts and who sold his soul to the Devil decades ago.

jj

19/07/2011FS, I dont think i said anything that was at all wrong nor untruthful. She has made many many huge mistakes and her cover up of those mistakes has been just as damaging as the mistakes themselves. I have never stated that i am a supporter of Abbott, but when the choice is Abbott and Gillard then yes, Abbott is my preferred option just as Gillard is yours; is there anything wrong with that? You may think that Abbott is the only one that sold his soul to the devil but i believe Gillard did too, many many years ago. Gillard lies and back-flips just as much as Abbott, it is just Abbott is not the PM, and he seems to have held a stronger more consistent line on the topic of the day than Gillard. You may not like what i say, but what i am saying is totally in sync with commentators and polling companies such as: Grattan, Kelly, Essential Media, Newspoll, Neilson, Morgan, Paul Kelly, Oakes, Crabb, Marr etc etc. Gillard is gone, people dont trust her anymore... the country has stopped listening to her!

Lyn

19/07/2011Hi Ad Here you are, you can live tweet tonight from 9pm Phone hacking in brief – Tuesday 19th July, The Spy Report I'll be live-tweeting these committee hearings from 9:00pm AEST (12:00pm BST) tonight @spyreporteditor. The culture committee hearings will be aired live on ABC News 24 in Australia http://www.mediaspy.org/report/2011/07/19/phone-hacking-in-brief-tuesday-19th-july/?utm_source=wordtwit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wordtwit Cheers :):):):):):)

NormanK

19/07/2011What a bunch of losers our media are. Today we have had two lame attempts at pinning Mr Abbott down on his comments from yesterday. [b]Opposition denies shift on 2020 emissions target[/b] [quote]NAOMI WOODLEY: Greg Hunt, is the Coalition committed to a five per cent reduction in emissions by 2020? 

GREG HUNT: Yes we are. Our approach is clear and absolute and we believe that there is dramatically better way than a massive carbon tax to achieve reductions through targeted focus on cleaning things up. ************************** NAOMI WOODLEY: But hasn't Tony Abbott caused some confusion around your goal when he said as you say yesterday, he said that it was crazy for Australia to be aiming for that reduction, noting that the Chinese are proposing to increase their emissions by 500 per cent. Hasn't he muddied the waters so to speak?

 GREG HUNT: With respect, no. Tony's approach, our approach, is very clear. To achieve the five per cent reduction through direct action by focusing on targeted reductions where you can reduce emissions at the lowest cost. ************************** NAOMI WOODLEY: The Government though says that that statement by Tony Abbott yesterday shows that your policy is contradictory, that is shows that he is not really committed - he, Mr Abbott, is not really committed to cutting emissions at all.

 GREG HUNT: I think the Prime Minister has become vaguely desperate I'm sorry to say. It's a little bit sad to see an Australian prime minister clutching at straws with a degree of desperation.[/quote] http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2011/s3272550.htm Read the whole transcript. Did you spot the move? Tony Abbott says something, Hunt when questioned obfuscates, interviewer rephrases question as "The Government though says .... " and Hunt is given rein to open up on the Prime Minister. Hey, Naomi, how about sticking to your guns and pointing out that it wasn't 'the government says that Tony Abbott said ......' but in fact 'Tony Abbott said ...'. Weak as water. As for the man himself. [b]Abbott moves to clarify 'crazy' carbon comment[/b] by Jeremy Thompson [quote]Now, Mr Abbott says he was talking about the different ways of arriving at the 5 per cent target. "Let me make it crystal clear. The Government and the Opposition are both committed to a 5 per cent reduction in emissions by 2020," Mr Abbott told reporters today. "What I said was there was a smart way and a dumb way to achieve a 5 per cent reduction in emissions."[/quote] http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-07-19/tony-abbott-emissions-comment/2800910/?site=newcastle No, Tony, let's be clear. What you said was : [quote]"The other crazy thing about this is that, at the same time that our country is proposing to reduce its emissions by 5 per cent, the Chinese are proposing to increase their emissions by 500 per cent," he said. "So any emissions reduction that we put in place will be wiped out in just a few days." [/quote] Because it was what your audience wanted to hear, you poured scorn on the bi-partisan agreement to reduce emissions by 5%. It's on video tape. You are a bald-faced liar, Mr Abbott and no-one in our press seem to care.

Feral Skeleton

19/07/2011Here's something interesting to ponder, from Stephen Mayne's article on The Drum: http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/2798930.html A comment was put up by Bob Ellis, who does know a thing or two about the defamation laws, so... [quote]'Bob Ellis : 18 Jul 2011 5:55:38pm It seems reasonable to ask if the 'Rudd leaks' in the last election were in fact downloaded emails or hacked text-messages, or bugged phone calls maybe, from one aggrieved backroomer to another. After sixteen years in Labor Party backrooms I find it really hard to believe that IN AN ELECTION CAMPAIGN any member of a Ministerial staff would intrigue against the Party and the Leader. Or any Minister either. Or any back-bencher, even one no longer standing. At other times in the cycle, quite possibly. But in election campaign, when the seats of comrade members and close friends are at stake, and the jobs of the staffs of those members are at stake, no. I don't think I'm wrong about this. Who then was the hacker, and what was the route by which he fed things to Laurie Oakes? 'Squidgie-gate' provides a clue, as revealed in Paul McMullan's bugged chat with Hugh Grant in last week's The Week. It sounds more and more plausible by the day.[/quote]

Feral Skeleton

19/07/2011NormanK, Tony Abbott, in the Australian parlance, 'Is as slippery as a shithouse rat', like his political dad, 'The Rodent'. :)

Feral Skeleton

19/07/2011jj, For as good an explanatiion of the pre-election 'lie' as it is being styled by the Opposition, go to a replay of Q&A last night and listen to Eva Cox's explanation. Best I've heard. However, as you have no interest in the truth of the matter of 'the lie', I can almost guarantee you won't. Now, point out some real examples of this: [quote]'Gillard lies and back-flips just as much as Abbott'[/quote] Otherwise you're just casting negative aspersions and stereotypically framing the PM in the negative fashion of the day.

Feral Skeleton

19/07/2011NormanK, I don't know how Greg Hunt can live with himself. Jeez that Power is an intoxicating drug is all I'll add.

Jason

19/07/2011http://www.flickr.com/photos/64041833@N04/5953151825/sizes/l/in/photostream/

NormanK

19/07/2011FS He can only be as slippery as the proverbial because the cat is half asleep. Useless. Completely useless.

Jason

19/07/2011sorry about link above! it apears not to be working now!

Feral Skeleton

19/07/2011File this away and pull it out the next time a Climate Change Sceptic quotes Plimer: http://misterwomby.posterous.com/no-science-in-plimers-primer-the-australian-9

Feral Skeleton

19/07/2011NormanK, The Media cat knows where it's next meal is coming from, and it knows it doesn't have to kill any rats to get it. ;-)

Feral Skeleton

19/07/2011What a great line from 'Seeking Asylum Down Under', in today's links: 'Tony Abbott lies for a living..'

Jason

19/07/2011jj, "Well after spending two weeks out of the country" I see travel hasn't broaden the mind then!

Feral Skeleton

19/07/2011Mungo MacCallum makes a very perceptive point in his article linked to today(yes, I'm just getting around to reading them :$ ), and that is that, sure, Tony Abbott's job description, as Opposition Leader, is to oppose the government's policies, if he thinks they need to be opposed. Everyone's fine with that idea. However, where Abbott abuses the concept is in the fact that he is opposing for opposition's sake, despite the valid merits of a policy, and, he is creating logical fallacies and spreading flat-out lies, in order to stoke his confected fury at the Climate Change policy of the Gillard government, levied via a Price on Carbon pollution. In other words, he is a venal scumbag. But then we knew that already, I suppose, and, what's worse, the electorate lauds him for it.

jj

19/07/2011FS, Why dont you just have a lie down to calm down, i know it must be stressful having to get on here everyday and have a whinge, say everyone else in Australia is wrong and you are right etc etc. But i ask you in all seriousness, who do you think will make the best next Labor PM: Rudd? Creane? Combet? Smith? You had better make your mind up soon as a couple more dodgy polls and Gillard will be gone. How are you going to defend that one?

Jason

19/07/2011jj, Gillard wont be going anywhere! as for Crean Combet or Smith, yes all worthy successors but the policy stays and that's what those like you with "poll fever" forget! Abbott is a follower and opportunist and it will start to unravel for him. Two years is a long time jj just you watch!

2353

19/07/2011I reckon Bob Ellis is onto something, as the political tribes backroom workers mobile numbers would be known to the media. Petition "signed", thanks for the link Lyn. (Although if it comes to pass the LNP will use it as another example of The Greens "running" the Government. Had a comment ready to go this morning thanking AC for the original post that didn't work - so thanks AC. It must be somewhat deflating to see all the additional material that could lead to comedy gold coming out after you wrote your contribution.

Jason

19/07/2011Who was that great man in the "store" who called Abbott a "Dickhead" on the ABC news?

2353

19/07/2011Dunno - but I hope he gets a kick out of knowing it was reported all over the Country - and on the ABC too!

macca

19/07/2011You have to admit that those who own Tony Abbott have made an inspired choice. They remind me of the selectors of a mediocre football team. Having lost the last grandfinal they assessed the dearth of talent in the on field playing group, the tactics they employed and the effectiveness of the coach. The decisions they arrived at after this soul searching are quite the revelation. They decided the coach was ok. He has, after all is said and done, strong links into 150 clubs around the land. He strongly defends his right to coach. Indeed all decisions are his. Free of fear or favour. A man honour and principle, as he often tells supporters. That he has strong connections to, and takes his direction from, an international group with questionable ethics and a twisted morality is, apparently, of no importance. Either to the coach or the supporters. That the selectors find this more than admirable is a given. Having sorted out the coaching issue the selectors then turned to the tactics. The selectors understand the game of football, insofar as it's win or lose. The occasional draw,with the game decided on a penalty shootout, has no truck with them. They will demand another game whether scheduled or not. That they will get one is yet to be decided. Although it's not looking good. Shocked by the insipid mediocracy of the playing group and, indeed, the entire football division. The selectors decided to promote from within. They needed a captain with the demonstrated abilities of; Blind obedience Irrational thought The morality and ethics of the coach The demonstrated ability to obfuscate truth, to scare both the vulnerable and elderly. In short they wanted a captain who has no compunction hitting others behind the play.....on one memorable occasion the captain who he replaced! A captain, or so the selectors believed, whose posturing and bravado would propel them to the prize they, by accident of birth, are so entitled. Unfortunately, for them, they made a mistake. Emboldened by the arrogance of entitlment the selectors gave no thought to the game. Like their captain and coach they believe the game to be win or lose only. None can see the contest of wills. The courage of ideals expressed and defended. The respect both earned and given in hard fought but honourable contest. They see the nobility of the human spirit as a weakness. An inner strength, born of steel, yet tempered with human frailty, as a vulnerability. The selectors,coach and captain believe themselves to be strong and, therefore invincible. By being strong they can bully, cheat, scare and browbeat others, who they believe to be the weakest, therefore the most malleable, to their will. They will not succeed. They have no understanding of a self evident truth. Strength is born of honour,courage and respect. Strength is hardened with deeds, actions and sorrows. Strength is tempered with both the nobility and frailty of man. They may be strong but they have no strength. It will be their downfall.

John

19/07/2011AC (John plants tongue firmly into right cheek) There are some extraneuos or mssing elements in this story: 1) 'Jen' is ***thinking ***. Whatever overcame you?!! 2) I think 'Jen' was using altogether way, way, way too many scruples. 3) I can't understand why she hasn't hacked the phones of the 'IT' staff - they'd get the message much quicker. 4) Any decent private detective could've hacked the cache memory of the photocopier (even if it's not working) and given her multiple colour images of many P3 girls to be sent by copier's email system to Rupo's paper. It is onl;y the copier part that's broken? (He'd - it would be a 'he' - would keep a copy of everything for himself, to sell to another tabloid paper later) ;)- I do enjoy your work. On another topic, News Ltd has been pretty gentle in reporting Abbott's backflip about 5% reduction on 2000 Carbon emissions as "crap". It's the same taget as his policy. See: http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/we-are-carbon-crazy-abbott/story-e6frea6u-1226097200970 I didn't find it the Daily Dunny, but buried in the Adelaide Advert. John :)

Sir Ian Crisp

19/07/2011[quote]Always thought he was an unprincipled scumbag troll.[/quote] Calling Ad Astra. Ad Astra phone your office. Ad Astra, when I used the term ‘cigar-store Indian’ to describe a person here at TPS my comment was quickly taken down. Should I have used the term ‘unprincipled scumbag’ instead to describe that person? Would my post have remained in the general comments section? Is ‘unprincipled scumbag’ less offensive than ‘cigar-store Indian’? Has anyone seen Ad Astra?

D Mick Weir

19/07/2011NormanK @ 5:12 PM my gravatar and I completely resemble that remark. on second thoughts we demand an apology from you we are fully asleep :P

D Mick Weir

19/07/2011FS @ 5:33 PM my gravatar and I know from bitter experience: [i]Never bite the hand that feeds you ... or if you do, smile nicely afterwards. and add a prrrr or three[/i]

Feral Skeleton

19/07/2011Sir Ian Crisp, Come in Spinner! :D Actually, I thought it would be jj that would rise to the bait, but you'll do.

Feral Skeleton

19/07/2011jj, Misogyny is catching in Coalition circles it seems. Anyway, whingeing on our 'Lefty' blog is preferable to rabid frothing at the mouth at the Rightard blogs from where you seem to have taken a break to come here and gloat. I don't know why you bother except that you probably think you're oh so gimcrack smart with your denigration of the reasonable and far more intelligent people who comment here. Myself included. So, if that's all you've got to contribute to our blog. Take a hike. You're lowering the tone. And you're adding 3/5 of bugger all to our conversation.

Ad astra

19/07/2011Folks You may have experienced some delays getting onto [i]TPS[/i] today as work was being done on the server to guard against cyber attacks. Attempted hacking is prevalent. Please be patient until the server hosts get this problem under control. I’m working on the next piece: [i]Why does the media believe it must hold governments to account?[/i], and tomorrow I’ll be with Web Monkey working on [i]TPS[/i] and installing my new modem. BTW, don’t waste your time responding to jj when he come here only to gloat and stir. Wasn’t it peaceful when he was overseas! A response is worthwhile only if and when he has something constructive to say. The same applies to Sir Ian Crisp.

Feral Skeleton

19/07/2011john, The problem as I see it is that Abbott may get called to account somewhere within the vast myriad edifice that is the 70% of the newspaper market that Murdoch has in Australia, but he never gets subjected to the Full Court Press across all Murdoch platforms that is so devastatingly effective in demolishing the legitimacy of the good that the government are trying to do. So, a glancing blow at best.

Feral Skeleton

19/07/2011macca, I like your work. :) However, what of the referee? It appears to me he is looking the other way when the captain goes the tonk.

Jason

19/07/2011FS, Over at Pure poison they are getting ready for Murdoch Bingo http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2011/07/19/mr-murdoch-goes-to-westminster/

Feral Skeleton

19/07/2011Jason, That old guy in the Hardware store today, said in one word what we have been taking thousands to approximate. :) My son made a clear-eyed observation about the difference between the ways Abbott & Gillard deal with situations like that. He said that Julia always humours the complainant and respectfully lets them have their say, embarassing as it may be, but Abbott can't get away fast enough from a potentially negative scenario. He seems to have a sixth sense for not letting a situation blow up in his face. Which is why that time when he was confronted in the Parliament garden really made him lose it big time, because he couldn't get away from Mark Riley. Might I add, like a cornered you know what. ;-)

Lyn

19/07/2011Hi Ad Here is a live blog for tonight, but you can look at the comments in the morning: Home affairs committee: live blog: Minute-by-minute coverage of Sir Paul Stephenson, Dick Federico, and John Yates' appearance in front of MPs. http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2011/07/home-affairs-committee-gives Cheers :):):):):):)

D Mick Weir

19/07/2011FS @ 8:49 PM, please bear with me while I correct you [i]And you're adding 3/5 of bugger all to our conversation.[/i] should read [i] ... 3/5 of 5/8 of (a very small amount) ...{/i] I hope you understand that I am only correcting you in the interests of scientific type accuracy :)

D Mick Weir

19/07/2011damned thick fingers and lack of self proof reading skills (and haste) should read [i] ... 3/5 of 5/8 of (a very small amount) ...[/i]

Feral Skeleton

19/07/2011DMW, None of us are perfect. :)

macca

19/07/2011FS The referee, being we the people, will see and penalise soon enough.

Feral Skeleton

19/07/2011Now, let me get this straight...Yesterday Tony Abbott said to a forum of oldies on the Gold Coast(I wonder if they shook their gaudy and tasteless gold jewellery at him as he entered?), that it was 'crazy' for Australia to produce a 5% reduction in emissions when China is going to increase its emissions, by 2020, by 500%. As in, it will make 3/5 of 5/8 of bugger all difference(happy now, DMW? :) ) if we do. Then, today, when he had to 'clarify' his remarks, he came out with this: [quote]'Mr Abbott later clarified his stance, saying he was strongly committed to the target but wanted it met in a "smart way, not a dumb way."[/quote] O...K...So Tony Abbott is therefore 'strongly committed' to doing 3/5 of 5/8 of bugger all? And using $30 billion of taxpayers' money to do it. Well, that's the really sensible and responsible act of someone who hopes to be Prime Minister. Or, it's just Mr 'Mean and Tricky' II hoping no-one will notice the inconsistency in his stance from one day to the next, as long as they both sound plausible at the time.

Feral Skeleton

19/07/2011I'm planning on staying up late to watch the grilling unfold live on ABC. :D Human sacrifices ahoy!

D Mick Weir

19/07/2011FS @ 9:21 PM I compleely contest that you, like me, and well, NormanK and Ad and Tweetie Pie and oh too many to name we are all perfect ... 'cept when we are not :)

D Mick Weir

19/07/2011FS @ 9:31 PM always happy and even more happy when you let me have even 3/5 of 5/8 of a very small amount of a 'win' :) :) :) / :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) / :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) >0<

Acerbic Conehead 2

19/07/2011Swordians, It seems the web-site was experiencing some difficulties today. Hopefully, AA and Web Monkey have overcome them and normal programming has resumed. Congratulations to those who made it through and apologies to anyone who was locked out. Patricia WA, Hope your own computer gremlins have been finally exorcised. Oh, and I think I’ll give your suggestion of taking pikkies of Tones in the nuddy a bit of a swerve. I know my standards are low but even I would baulk at such practices, lol. Also, are you saying he’s a bit of a LLAD (boom, tish!)? Lyn, Thanks again for the great links. Mungo MacCallum’s description, in the area of political leadership succession, of the balance between a Young Turk’s self-interest and ‘the good of the party’, is very interesting. FS, As usual, today you have contributed very useful links and thoughtful analysis of a number of current topics. Many thanks again. And thanks for the inspiration to use [i]The IT Crowd[/i] as a backdrop. It was you who suggested that a while ago and I gratefully filed the idea away. I must say, however, I don’t know much about ‘Da Mighty Boosh’, but will explore it on utube. Gravel, Apologies for giving you the impression that half a week, or more, of your life had suddenly disappeared! Enjoy your weekend and don’t forget to spoil the grandkids. jj, Welcome back. Did you manage to stop off in North Korea or Cuba and get some tips on how the collectivists implement their [i]Direct Action[/i] Five Year Plans? NormanK, Thanks for highlighting those contradictory and bizarre positions that Tony Abbott is holding at one and the same time. He must think people are stupid and is relying on the media failing to hold him to account. “If I just lie here”. Jason, As you said, the election isn’t for another two years or more. I think jj is wishing for another Kerr to come along. 2353, Thanks for your kind words on the post. Much appreciated. Enjoy the rest of your evening. Macca, Great football/politics analogy. The contrast you make between having strength and being strong is very apt. I have heard some people say that the club you are describing is modelled on Collingwood, but I wouldn’t know anything about that, being a round-ball man myself. John, That tongue of yours is way out of order, lol. I was hoping that someone might notice a correlation between Jen and a certain Australian politician. I’ll leave that one with you. Also, I inserted a few allusions to a famous movie. Can anyone name it and identify the allusions? That’s your homework for tonight. AA, Good luck with the update of the blog. And apologies for replying to jj. I couldn’t resist it...heh...heh...

Feral Skeleton

19/07/2011AcerbicC., jj was away at Summer Smug Camp in the USA. It's run by the Republican Party. :)

Ad astra

19/07/2011Hi Lyn Thanks for the link for the Murdoch saga tonight. I doubt if I'll make it so I'll look forward to a precis in the morning. I'm calling it a day.

Lyn

19/07/2011Hi Everybody Here is the hearing showing on video now News24, for those that maybe do not have news 24 http://www.abc.net.au/news/abcnews24/ Cheers :):):)

NormanK

19/07/2011Acerbic Conehead Thanks for the very clever references to [i] Citizen Kane[/i]. With a rose as my Gravatar it would have been remiss of me not to notice. Ooh, look, a competition. :-O (;-)) Was it [i]Citizen Kane[/i], Master? A belated thank-you for the humour, AC. That was one of my favourite episodes of [i]The IT Crowd[/i] - it deserves cult status.

Acerbic Conehead 2

19/07/2011FS, [quote]jj was away at Summer Smug Camp in the USA. It's run by the Republican Party.[/quote] So we can expect even smugger posts? Oh dear. NormanK, Well done. Send your postal address to AA and he will pass it on to me. A free copy of my book,"The Man of Steal Goes Rusty", will be heading your way. Similarly if anyone can pick one of the embedded allusions to the movie (4 in total), you get a free book also.

BSA Bob

19/07/2011The bloke in the hardware store- the most perceptive political commentary on the ABC for quite some time.

Lyn

20/07/2011 [b]TODAY’S LINKS[/b] [i]New and Non News, Andrew Elder, Politically Homeless[/i] Polls are released all the time. The fact that a poll is released is not news, especially when it says basically the same thing that other recent polls have said. These guys should know better - http://andrewelder.blogspot.com/2011/07/news-and-non-news.html [i]If the Crap Fits, Mr Denmore, The Failed Estate[/i] How can the media be said to be doing its job when it scrutinises only one side of politics and, even then,uses distortion, manipulation and outright deceit to misinform readers in support of a corporate agenda? http://thefailedestate.blogspot.com/2011/07/if-crap-fits.html [i]Why News Needs Regulation , Wendy Bacon, New Matilda[/i] TV licences held by News in the US and UK are under review under "fit and proper" rules. In Australia, similar rules were removed by the Howard government in favour of a "suitability test" — that has not once been applied. http://newmatilda.com/2011/07/19/why-news-needs-regulation [i]How Murdoch Keeps It In The Family, Ben Eltham, New Matilda[/i] Rupert Murdoch is not only the Chairman and Chief Executive of News Corp, he also effectively controls who the other directors are. And the reason News Corp can issue Class B shares is because of lax corporate regulation. http://newmatilda.com/2011/07/19/how-murdoch-keeps-it-family [i]As Murdoch’s crisis deepens, it’s time for a ‘fit and proper’ discussion ,Thomas Clark, The Conversation[/i] In Australia, News Ltd is no doubt preparing for the upcoming media convergence review and the increasing calls for an inquiry into media concentration.The media convergence inquiry will examine the implications of convergence of the broadcasting, radiocommunications and telecommunications industries with the internet. http://theconversation.edu.au/as-murdochs-crisis-deepens-its-time-for-a-fit-and-proper-discussion-2302 [i]the hacks defend the Murdochs , Gary Sauer-Thompson, Public Opinon[/i] Murdoch has too much power in Australia. Thomas Clarke says that Australia’s cross-media ownership regulation simply is not working to achieve the principles of media access, freedom and diversity that it is supposed to protect http://www.sauer-thompson.com/archives/opinion/2011/07/the-hacks-defen.php#morelll [i]Murdoch may lose grip on News Corp, Peter Ryan,Abc[/i] Almost $1 billion has been wiped from the value of the Murdoch family's News Corp shareholding alone since the phone hacking scandal began, according to data compiled by financial services firm Bloomberg. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-07-19/news-corp-share-slump-murdoch/2799888 [i]LulzSec 1, Murdoch 0: News Int, the hacker, becomes the hacked,Stilgherrian, Crikey[/i] News International’s DNS servers (link web addresses to servers) and all 1024 web addresses are down”, LulzSec tweeted at 10.06. But that falls sort of claiming responsibility. I suspect that in a last, desperate act of defence, News International killed its own internet presence. http://www.crikey.com.au/2011/07/19/lulzsec-hack-news-international-and-rupert-murdoch/ [i]Mayne: how to cross examine Rupert Murdoch, Stephen Mayne, Crikey[/i] Ever since Crikey published this story last Friday, there have been more than 8000 unique visits to the transcript of the 12-minute exchange with Rupert at last year’s News Corp AGM in New York http://www.crikey.com.au/2011/07/19/rupert-murdoch-parliament-address-end-of-murdoch/ [i]Miranda’s Red Nightmare, Dave Gaukroger, Pure Poison[/i] The squealing coming from some sections of our local media about the dangers of government scrutiny bring to mind a principle that they’re usually quite fond of; if you’ve done nothing wrong, you’ve nothing to worry about http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2011/07/19/mirandas-red-nightmare/ [i]Phone hacking in brief – Tuesday 19th July, The Spy Report[/i] I'll be live-tweeting these committee hearings from 9:00pm AEST (12:00pm BST) tonight @spyreporteditor. The culture committee hearings will be aired live on ABC News 24 in Australia http://www.mediaspy.org/report/2011/07/19/phone-hacking-in-brief-tuesday-19th-july/? [i]Grow a pair, Australia, New Anthropocene[/i] Don’t be a bunch of selfish pricks, Australia. Grow a pair and shell out a few dollars a week to help protect your future and your grandkids’ future – not to mention the billions of other people, plants and animals around the world who will suffer http://newanthropocene.wordpress.com/2011/07/19/grow-a-pair-australia/ [i]The Fair Work Act and productivity,Matt Cowgill, We are all Dead[/i] When he was introducing the Work Choices bill into Parliament, Kevin Andrews said it was intended “to encourage the further spread of workplace agreements in order to lift productivity and hence the living standards of working Australians”. [fn1] http://mattcowgill.wordpress.com/2011/07/19/the-fair-work-act-and-productivity/ [i]Australian Strategy In Afghanistan: Leave, Now, Peter, Aussie Views News[/i] Julia Gillard has let slip that Australia will be involved with Afghanistan for the next decade. The Guardian is of the view that the US will be there for ten or twenty years http://www.aussieviewsnews.com/2011/07/19/australia-afghanistan-strategy-leave/ [i]Crazy is as crazy does, Crikey[/i] There are several ways to interpret Tony Abbott’s “crazy” reference yesterday about the notionally bipartisan 5% emissions reduction target by 2020 http://www.crikey.com.au/2011/07/19/crikey-says-crazy-is-as-crazy-does/ [i]How will the carbon tax affect me?, JJ Fiasson, Carbon Tax Facts[/i] One criticism levelled at the carbon tax is that the Labor government is going to use it to pay off their debt. This claim is entirely untrue, as the entirety of the revenue taken in by the carbon tax will actually be put towards compensating taxpayers and affected companies. http://www.carbontax.net.au/category/what-is-the-carbon-tax/ [i]Free Pollution Ride Coming To An EndFree Poallution Ride Coming To An End, Alex Schlotzer[/i] better mechanism than the government’s original CPRS and better by leaps and bounds than the Opposition’s so-called ‘Direct Action’ option. Courtesy of the Greens, the carbon price is a much better mechanism to deal with reducing GHGs. http://alexschlotzer.wordpress.com/2011/07/19/free-pollution-ride-coming-to-an-end/ [i]Lies, damned lies and climate politics, Giles Parkinson, Climate Spectator[/i] Abbott’s comment about China, and his dismissal of Australia’s bipartisan reduction target of 5 per cent as “crazy”, reveals his true instincts on climate change. He doesn’t believe it, and he doesn’t accept the need for action: anything that Australia does is too much in the context of global efforts http://www.climatespectator.com.au/commentary/lies-damned-lies-and-climate-politics [b]Reading:[/b] [i]The day James Murdoch took a back seat and was caught napping, Mike Safe, Crikey[/i] James Murdoch, then aged 14, was one of those bizarre experiences that cropped up in the rough and tumble world that was reporting for the afternoon tabloids. http://www.crikey.com.au/2011/07/19/james-murdoch-history-murdoch-news-corp/

Gravel

20/07/2011Macca I read your contribution on Poll Bludger. It was good enough to read it a second time. Thanks. Antique Gravel that is me. Thanks, I laughed a lot at that. Feral Skeleton Wow, you really are on fire of late. I love your contributions and links, sometime you even beat "Our Lyn" to it. Patricia I'm going to your site right now, you have me intrigued.

2353

20/07/2011I'm still annoyed we didn't know JJ was overseas. We could have asked Immigration not to let him back into the Country :)

Michael

20/07/2011Wednesday Bad Abbott This quote concerning the 5% cut in emissions target that is bipartisan policy: On Monday, Mr Abbott described this target as ''crazy'' because any reductions made by Australia would be more than made up for emission increases from China. Yesterday, he claimed he was calling Labor's policy ''crazy''. from this article in SMH this morning http://www.smh.com.au/national/windsor-loyal-to-doomed-gillard-20110719-1hneq.html And you know what? The public will believe him. The man who said you could only accept his words as not possibly being a lie when written down ("Dead. Buried. Cremated" anyone?) spouts absolute falsehood again. Straightfaced. Self-righteous. Completely unashamed. And he's preferred Prime Minister???? If 'Australia' wants him, let them have at the next election. 'Berlusconi Down Under', with Berlusconi's economy as part of the package. Poor fellow my country. PS The remainder of the article, cleansingly, gives us more of Tony Windsor's common sense and true concern for the future of this nation and its people.

Ad astra

20/07/2011LYN'S DAILY LINKS updated: http://www.thepoliticalsword.com/page/LYNS-DAILY-LINKS.aspx

Lyn

20/07/2011Good Morning Ad I am so glad we didn't lose any sleep over the hearing last night. The most important news this morning is Mr Murdoch was attacked, with foam,a pie with cream,, shaving foam, a pie with foam, plate of foam. I think it was white stuff don't you? Wendi Deng emerges as an unlikely star in the British hearing into the phone hacking scandal, News Com HER husband was in the hot seat, but Wendi Deng has emerged as the unlikely star of a British hearing into phone hacking at Rupert Murdoch's newspapers http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/wendi-deng-emerges-as-an-unlikely-star-in-the-british-hearing-into-the-phone-hacking-scandal/story-e6frg996-1226098024067 Rupert Murdoch attacked at hearing during 'most humble day of my life' , Peter Wilson, The Australian RUPERT Murdoch was attacked by a man throwing a plateful of foam in a frightening protest at his much-watched appearance before a parliamentary committee in London last night. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/in-depth/murdochs-prepare-for-grilling-as-death-of-hacking-witness-marks-new-low-in-scandal/story-fn9eci82-1226097935402 Shaving cream does not hide a woeful performance, Tim Dick, SMH One village idiot's disgraceful action dissolved much of the immediate impact of what until then appeared to be the humiliation of an 80-year-old mogul far from the top of his game, and a son trying to save him by interrupting with long bouts of management doublespeak. http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/blogs/media-matters/shaving-cream-does-not-hide-a-woeful-performance-20110720-1hnoh.html#ixzz1SazhIuIN Protester hits Murdoch with foam pie, ABC In dramatic scenes as the hearing into Britain's phone hacking scandal was wrapping up, Rupert Murdoch was attacked by a man trying to throw a plate of foam at him. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-07-20/protester-targets-murdoch-inquiry/2802036 Protester lunges at Murdoch , The Age A protester lunged at Rupert Murdoch, smearing him with white foam, in a dramatic interruption to the media mogul's defence of his empire in the wake of the News of the World phone hacking scandal. http://www.theage.com.au/world/protester-lunges-at-murdoch-20110720-1hnjg.html#ixzz1Sb3J13L2 Cheers :):):):):):)

Feral Skeleton

20/07/2011Michael, Tony Windsor's 'common sense and true concern for the future of this nation and it's people' appears today to have Labor out of the picture after the next election. :(

Feral Skeleton

20/07/2011Sad, isn't it that the electorate, in the main, have taken leave of their senses and Abbott can unabashedly lie to them perpetually, as long as it sounds convincing.

Ad astra

20/07/2011Folks I’ll be with Web Monkey today talking about the website and installing a new modem. So I might be off the air for a while.

Feral Skeleton

20/07/2011AcerbicC., You may find this amusing(so might everyone else!): http://www.drvl.org/lifestyle/facial-hair-benefits/

Feral Skeleton

20/07/2011http://www.kudelka.com.au/2011/07/a-little-too-close-to-the-sun/ :)

Sir Ian Crisp

20/07/2011Ad Astra, are you saying that unprincipled scumbag troll adds to any debate yet cigar-store Indian does not? That would seem to be a bit odd don't you think.

BSA Bob

20/07/2011I see that the Murdochs are not responsible for what's happened with the phone hacking. A bit of a contrast to the local branch's persecution of Peter Garrett, who is of course personally responsible for every single batt & staple applied on his watch.

Ad astra

20/07/2011Folks Web Monkey has got my new modem working. And it's faster than the old one!

Lyn

20/07/2011Hi Ad That is great news thankyou for letting us know. By faster does that mean we can put up our comments faster. Just joking probably going to fix the blog from sticking in the comments box and then the blog page goes down. Can you tell Web Monkey thankyou and he is our best friend. Cheers :):):):):)

Ad astra

20/07/2011Hi Lyn Thank you for the links to the 'Murdoch interrogation'. I think I'm now up to date. It seems as if the popular press is more interested in the shaving foam episode than what was said!

Feral Skeleton

20/07/2011I give up! What's the point in deconstructing the lies inherant in what Tony Abbott says from one day to the next when he can just turn around and do something as audacious as this and get away with it scott free? http://www.news.com.au/national/opposition-leader-tony-abbott-changes-line-says-he-never-supported-ets/story-e6frfkvr-1226098237952

Feral Skeleton

20/07/2011Great! Just what I didn't need to hear, Kevin Rudd needs Heart surgery. It couldn't be Barnaby Joyce...nah, he'll go down the same path as Derryn Hinch if anything. ;-)

Jason

20/07/2011BSA Bob, Lets no for get about the "waste" of the BER that had a 97% success rate as well!

Feral Skeleton

20/07/2011BSA Bob, Sergeant Schultz wasn't responsible for the malpractice of the Prison Camp he worked in either.

Jason

20/07/2011FS, Two types of surgery Barnaby Joyce will never have is Heart and Brain!

nasking

20/07/2011I watched the entire House of Commons grilling of the police, the Murdochs & Brookes. Extremely revealing. More to it than has been pushed by our usual media spinners...ignore the conveniently-timed "cream in face" distraction. In the following exchanges note Rupert's comment on Hinton & what preceded it (about trust & blame/responsibility..."the people they trusted")... and reference to tax authorities by questioner...and knowledge of any investigations into News Corporation: [quote]JS: If I can just return to your father, I know that it's a very stressful time for yourselves. But Mr Murdoch do you accept that ultimately you are responsible for this whole fiasco? RMurdoch: No. JS: You're not responsible? Who is responsible? RMurdoch: The people that I trusted to run things then maybe the people that they trusted. JS: Can you name… RMurdoch: I worked with Mr Hinton for 52 years and I would trust him with my life. JS: Are you satisfied that the cash payments that were made by the News Corporation to informants to stories were registered with appropriate tax authorities? RMurdoch: I don't know anything about that. Perhaps James can answer, I… JS: If people were given money in order to get stories, did you notify the appropriate tax authorities about this? JMurdoch: All of our financial affairs as a public company are transparent, are audited, the tax jurisdictions the company works in all around the world are worked with transparently and thoroughly, tax compliance is an important priority for any business and the company complies with the laws. JS: Would that also include people who are on regular monthly retainers, registering their payments with HMRC? JMurdoch: I have no knowledge of separate people on retainers and their own tax affairs. I can speak for the company's tax arrangements and to the best of my knowledge we are a company that takes tax compliance, regulatory compliance, financial and regulatory transparency hugely seriously and that's something we're very proud of. JS: James could you please confirm and deny whether any News Corporation company is a subject of an investigation by the serious fraud office? JM: I have no knowledge of that at this point. JS: Could you also confirm and deny whether any News Corporation company is a subject of an investigation by the Financial Services Authority? JM: Not to my knowledge. JS: And finally, please confirm and deny whether any News Corporation company is a subject of an investigation by HMRC? JM: Not to my knowledge, we have ongoing dialogue with the HMRC and various subsidiaries but as far as investigations are concerned[/quote] http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jul/19/james-rupert-murdoch-live-transcript N'

TalkTurkey

20/07/2011Patricia WA said " . . . if anyone feels like adding a "Here! Here!" for me. Now I don't want to seem [i]picky[/i] . . . But You may hear no difference between 'hear' and 'here', But there's two ways of yelling "Here Here!" and "Hear Hear!" In Thugby the Thugballers yell out [i]"HERE! HERE!"[/i] While Pollies in Parliament yell out [b]"HEAR, HEAR!"[/b] (As poor ol' Harry so often has trouble doing) rer In Thugby the fell

TalkTurkey

20/07/2011Sorry folks for the messy last post. Fact is I've got so cross with trying to make my computer work, couldn't do anything at all yesty, when it finally did I was taken by surprise and forgot to check the bottom of my post. I lost that little pome once, original version was better but I couldn't remember the wording . . . Lost it when I wanted to check the punkturation and it all went sulky and swallowed it. Yes I should have saved it first yep OK. Anyway these computerators, how frustrating they can be! I don't know if it's my computer . . . &/or Optus . . . &/or my service provider . . . &/or TPS . . . &/or sunspots, gerblins, grembils, or maybe Dog. I wonder what was the TV watchership in the UK was yesterday?

nasking

20/07/2011In this exchange Rupert reveals newly-elected PM Cameron was grateful: [quote]JS: Ok. Again, Mr Murdoch, have you ever imposed any pre-conditions... RM: Which visit to Downing Street are you talking about? JS: Just following the last general election. RM: I was invited within days to have a cup of tea to be thanked for the support by Mr Cameron, no other conversation took place. It lasted minutes.[/quote] ----------------- Just a reminder pre-UK election...the James Murdoch/Brooks VS Independent's editor Kelner. http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/organgrinder/2010/apr/23/kelner-murdoch-brooks-lebedev From same article: [quote]Michael Wolff theorises that Rupert Murdoch is feeling let down, after last year being persuaded by Roger Ailes to back John McCain against Barack Obama, and now he has been persuaded to support David Cameron against his better judgment. The Mirror, however, goes further: "Rupert Murdoch, 79, agreed to support Mr Cameron last September on the condition he dismantles parts of the BBC and scraps TV watchdog Ofcom if he reaches No 10. But from the moment he endorsed Mr Cameron the Tory leader's fortunes have plummeted ... so desperate are the Murdochs to shore up their candidate, they have run a series of laughable character assassinations of Lib Dem leader Nick Clegg in The Sun."[/quote] Interesting that Murdoch just about got his hands on 61% of BskyB...PM Cameron was obviously extremely grateful for Murdoch paper support re: election...but the revelations of phone hacking by News of the World of Milly Dowler & others saw Cameron do a U-turn. I bet the bloggers who supported Cameron didn't get an invite for tea. Surprised Murdoch didn't summons Cameron to come and see him...isn't that the usual state of affairs going by our Aussie leaders? N'

Michael

20/07/2011Feral Skeleton's link at 01:54 above leads to a BAD BAD ABBOTT. But, will anyone 'out there' care? The only 'redeeming' aspect of all this is that the story is reported on a News Ltd site. I may just be sniffing at too hopeful a wind, but I have noticed lately that News is not taking everything Tiny says as 'gospel' these days.

Michael

20/07/2011Too much to hope that the cry might rise, nationwide: "Liar, liar, budgies on fire!"

Patricia WA

20/07/2011Talk Turkey! You're right. I'm wrong. So here I am [b]Eating Humble Pie![/b] Was Rupert Murdoch really humbled? Or know he had at last been rumbled, As talk-back raged and bankers grumbled When News Corp’s share price sharply tumbled? So maybe a handsome apology Was by far the better strategy, Read as a [i]mea culpa[/i], an elegy From a great man at power’s apogee. Regardless of the reasons why He’d reached this point of do or die, Fate, in the form of a little guy, Stepped in, and threw at him instead a custard pie! Not finished yet, something in me wants to add a Post Script, another verse, but I love that custard pie finale! There's a metaphor somewhere about a protest from the litte man, the mouse that roared? What do you think, TT? Should I leave it at that? And I'm not sure about that 'instead' in the last line. Ghastly people the Murdochs! So banal. All that media power concentrated in those worthless individuals. And for them and their minions like John Hartigan at the Oz millions will suffer from drought in East Africa, earthquakes in Japa and floods in Thailand and here too, while Australians are persuaded turn their back on carbon abatement reforms.

Lyn

20/07/2011 Hi Ad Looks like the Journalists care a lot about people, seems they sourced some medical advice on Kevin Rudd's health:_ [quote]Kevin Rudd to have heart surgery ,Joe Kelly, News Com[/quote] The replacement of a transplanted heart value is said to carry a risk of about 4-5 per cent of death or serious complications. [b]If Mr Rudd failed to fully recover, it would expose the Gillard minority government to a potentially-devastating by-election in his seat of Griffith.[/b] Cardiothoracic and transplant surgeon Dr Michael Rowland, of the Melbourne Heart and Lung Surgery, said the risks facing Mr Rudd were greater than for a first-time transplant recipient. "[b]There’s a risk of death,” he told The Australian Online[/b] [b]Mr Rudd has an 8.5 per cent buffer in his inner-Brisbane seat, a figure inflated by his high level of personal support as a former prime minister.[/b] http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/kevin-rudd-to-have-heart-surgery/story-fn59niix-1226098354226?from=public_rss&u I can't put cheers on this report or a smiley

nasking

20/07/2011I found it interesting that News International did not do a thorough internal investigation even tho the phone hacking issue came up time & time again... in fact, James & Rupert Murdoch, the governors of newspapers they promote as having the best reporters & investigators, seem to ignore the fact that it was left up to rival 'The Guardian' to do the heavy lifting...and the police on occassion: [quote]TW: (to RM) Mr Murdoch, why was no-one fired in April when News International finally admitted that News of the World had been engaged in criminal interception of voice-mails? RM: It was not our job to get in the course of justice, it was up to the police to bring those charges and carry out their investigation which we were 100 per cent co-operating with. TW: But in April the company admitted liability for phone-hacking and nobody took responsibility for it then. (pause) No one was fired, the company admitted that they'd been involved in criminal wrongdoing and no-one was fired. Why was that? RM: There were people in the company that apparently were guilty and we have to find them and we have to deal with them appropriately. 3.00pm: TW:Ok. Whilst it has been obvious to most observers since the summer of 2009 that phone hacking was wide spread, you knew from January of this year that the one rogue reporter line was false. Is that right? RM: I forget the date[/quote] How pathetic is that? We'll only investigate ourselves further if the police want it. Bad stuff. Don't forget...News International has a number of papers...and we are told there is no "groupthink"...so why were the other papers not drilling into News of the World? And why would James Murdoch not call for a thorough internal investigation and yet he was willing to sign off on two huge payoffs to the phone hacked?...summs that were far higher than previous ones paid out to similar victims. Seems to me that James has set a precedent regarding approved compensation payments that could cost the corporation billions. And in turn, not protected the corporation's integrity by doin' a thorough internal investigation once he read the "emails" that the legal team were in possession of. ------------- Furthermore: it seems the investigator from the Metropolitan police, John Yates, only looked over the many thousands of phone hacking-related files for 8 hours to come up w/ the conclusion that the case had been pursued enuff. And Met police commissioner Stephenson felt the need to talk to The Guardian & told them to back off the case. Why on earth would the top cop go to a paper that had revealed so much useful info on phone hacking and put pressure on them? And how's this for a coincidence?: [quote]The hearing heard that 10 out of the Met's 45-strong press office had worked for News International in some capacity, including work experience.[/quote] http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/19/john-yates-resignations-news-international and: [quote]The revelation that the Met had hired the former News of the World deputy editor Neil Wallis as a temporary but senior PR consultant, which came hours after his arrest over alleged phone hacking last week, led to the resignations of Stephenson and Yates. Stephenson confirmed a Guardian report that the Met had approached Wallis to perform the role and that he had been consulted: "Neil Wallis was known to me. When his name came up I had no concernsI was not discomforted that Mr Wallis came out of that process." Lunch and dinner Wallis, while a NoW executive, and Stephenson had lunch and dinner at least seven times, part of 18 declared contacts the commissioner had with the former Sunday tabloid over a five-year period. Fedorcio, the Met's director of public affairs, never asked Wallis about phone hacking before he gained a contract to advise the force on PR. Fedorcio, who was referred to the Independent Police Complaints Commission over his dealings with Wallis shortly before giving evidence to the committee, said it was left to Yates to check if Wallis had any involvement with phone hacking: "He said to me that as far as he was concerned, having spoken to Mr Wallis, there was nothing that could embarrass us in this appointment," he said. Fedorcio, whose surname MPs kept mispronouncing, told the committee he did this despite knowing that Yates was a friend of Wallis. He told the MPs: "I had no reason to doubt Mr Yates's integrity." Giving evidence directly afterwards, Yates said he had "sought assurances" in a single phone call to Wallis that nothing would come to light implicating him in the hacking scandal. "What I did was not due diligence in the truest sense," he said. Yates added that he was not a close friend of Wallis but merely saw him "two or three times a year", mainly to go to sporting events. Wallis was deputy editor of the News of the World under Andy Coulson when the paper was alleged to have been engaged in large-scale phone hacking, before leaving to set up his own PR consultancy, Chamy Media. Shortly afterwards, in October 2009, he won a two-day-a-month contract to assist the Met, worth £24,000 a year. Fedorcio said he needed assistance with corporate PR as his deputy was on long-term sick leave. Following advice from the force's procurement department he requested three tenders for the contract, with Chamy submitting "by far" the lowest bid.[/quote] -------------- So not only had the Murdoch empire infiltrated the grateful political arena...but they were thruout the London Metropolitan Police... after the original phone hacking revelations in the early-mid 2000s shoul've put up a red flag ... and you can imagine the possibility of heaps of phone hacking info (and other breaking investigations) goin' back and forth between News of the World/News International & the police...talk about "insiders". Interesting that Yates was involved at top level of terrorist investigations...it would be a convenient excuse at that time to ignore phone hacking, push it aside as a lesser priority. Why not have other top police not related to "terrorist investigations" do the investigation into News of the World? I reckon someone was thinking about future "excuses". N'

Jason

20/07/2011Tony Abbott 2005! Sort of makes you wonder? Well no it doesn't! we have the most useless press in this country. http://sgp1.paddington.ninemsn.com.au/sunday/political_transcripts/article_1761.asp?s=1 LAURIE OAKES: Could I read you a letter from yesterday's Australian? It said 'Actions of corporate dishonesty and custodial sentencing. Pity the same rules don't apply to politicians.' What's your response? TONY ABBOTT: Well, I can understand why people feel unhappy about the Government's decision to raise the safety net thresholds. But we took a decision that in the end it was more important to be economically responsible, and more important to maintain the safety net in the long term than it was to avoid embarrassing the Health Minister. LAURIE OAKES: So honesty comes a distant second in this? TONY ABBOTT: Well, Laurie, when I made that statement, in the election campaign, I had not the slightest inkling that there would ever be any intention to change this. But obviously when circumstances change, governments do change their opinions, and that is actually the responsible course of action.

NormanK

20/07/2011Pulling together some of the articles already linked to today with regard to the human weathervane, Mr Abbott. [b]Opposition Leader Tony Abbott changes line, says he never supported ETS[/b] by Malcolm Farr [quote]OPPOSITION Leader Tony Abbott has switched position on climate change by saying he has never supported an emissions trading scheme to reduce global warming. However, he campaigned for an ETS while a cabinet minister and publicly endorsed one up until he took the Liberal leadership in December, 2009. In October 2009, Mr Abbott said: "We don't want to play games with the planet. So we are taking this issue seriously and we would like to see an ETS." And in November that year he said: "You can't have a climate change policy without supporting this ETS at this time."[/quote] http://www.news.com.au/national/opposition-leader-tony-abbott-changes-line-says-he-never-supported-ets/story-e6frfkvr-1226098237952?from=igoogle+gadget+compact+news_rss In the [i] Herald Sun[/i] with a nice photo of the PM. [b]Julia Gillard dismisses early election talk but Tony Abbott puts Liberals on election alert[/b] by Matt Johnston & Michael Harvey [quote]The Opposition Leader was criticised Monday for questioning reducing emissions by 5 per cent by 2020 - precisely the same target as his "direct action" policy. Under fire from Ms Gillard, he [b]tried[/b] to make his remarks "crystal clear" yesterday.[/quote] My emphasis. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/julia-gillard-dismisses-early-election-talk-but-tony-abbott-puts-liberals-on-election-alert/story-fn7x8me2-1226097847012 [b]Weathervane' Abbott targeted over support for price on carbon[/b] by Ben Packham [quote]LABOR has seized on a second contradictory climate change statement by Tony Abbott in the space of just a few days, in which he said he'd never supported a carbon price. “Tony Abbott is so cavalier with the truth that he is now routinely contradicting himself on climate change,” he[/quote] (Greg Combet) [quote]said. “We already know Mr Abbott is a weathervane on climate change because that is how he has described himself. “Now the weathervane is revolving so rapidly that Mr Abbott has even lost track of his own position.”[/quote] http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/carbon-plan/weathervane-abbott-targeted-over-support-for-price-on-carbon/story-fn99tjf2-1226098193350 It is worth noting that all three articles are in [i]News Ltd[/i] publications. This is in a small publication which might be regarded as 'friendly' but it is nice to see some of these sentiments in print. [b]A taxing step forward for green start-ups[/b] by Richard Nicol [quote]We all have a responsibility to promote the facts about climate change as well as to refute the lies and misinformation that is being promoted by those in opposition to the carbon tax. Julia openly admitted that the Government can't do it alone and that the support of forward thinking businesses, popular media and everyday individuals is needed to promote the message that a price on carbon is a good thing. For example, opposition leader Tony Abbott, stating on ABC's 7:30 Report: “There is no other comparable country which is imposing an economy-wide carbon tax on itself, there's no other comparable country which is imposing an emissions trading scheme on itself” should be refuted by everyone, including and especially the popular media, as the blatant lie that it is. Abbott knows full well that this is rubbish and the audacity to say it on national television accurately illustrates his opinions on climate change as being whatever the public wants to hear and whatever will win his party the most support.[/quote] http://www.startupsmart.com.au/management/2011-07-20/a-taxing-step-forward-for-green-start-ups.html Is there a shift in the wind?

nasking

20/07/2011Thinking about the connections between News International/News of the World & London Metropolitan Police & politicians in the UK (as I've commented on above)...we should reflect on the following: [quote]Throughout his time as a student and seminarian, Abbott was writing articles for newspapers and magazines—first for the Sydney University Newspaper, and later The Catholic Weekly and national publications like The Bulletin. He eventually became a journalist and wrote for The Australian Political career Abbott began public life as a journalist for The Bulletin, an influential news magazine, and The Australian Newspaper. He became well-known for his strongly worded criticism of trade unions and left-wing politics. [/quote] (wikipedia) BTW, I thought Ashleigh Gillon on SKY NEWS did a pathetic job reporting the Murdoch at the House of Commons stuff this morning. Came across like a scared puppet. She even used some "crap" in the Daily Telegraph from an unnamed ALP backbencher to push her anti-carbon tax argument. Pathetic. ABC Breakfast started badly...vague sensationilist crap...but more valuable info leaked out as the show went on. But key exchanges & links have been missed by them. Good work AC. Thnx for the kind health-related comments on previous thread. Just catchin' up. N'

NormanK

20/07/2011Jason That is a great find. I hope all the social media participants are spreading the link far and wide to journalists. A few favourite quotes from that interview : [quote]TONY ABBOTT: And I can certainly understand the dismay of — of some electors. I can obviously understand that. But there are all sorts of values here. One value is obviously keeping commitments. But [b]another important value is economic responsibility[/b], and another — a third important value is solidarity with the team. TONY ABBOTT: Well, Laurie, again let me say that I can understand why people are dismayed by this decision. But in the end governments have to balance a whole lot of objectives. And sometimes you have to choose between a range of difficult, even unpalatable, alternatives. And we could stick with the pre-election position. Or we could make a change. And we thought [b]on balance it was best to take the economically responsible position now[/b].[/quote] (edited) [quote]TONY ABBOTT: Look, we, what we, what we said to people back then was [b]what we honestly believed to be the case[/b]. And... LAURIE OAKES: But your word's not worth much any more, is it? A Tony Abbott commitment now will rouse horse laughs. TONY ABBOTT: Well, Laurie, look, these are the risks you run, obviously. And I guess I would simply ask people to [b]appreciate the totality of the circumstances in which governments operate[/b].[/quote]

nasking

20/07/2011From Jason's quote re: 2005: [quote] But obviously when circumstances change, governments do change their opinions, and that is actually the responsible course of action. [/quote] Very useful Jason. Abbott has been gettin' an easy ride thnx to our too oft slack journos/talkin' heads. As evidenced by the bulk of the reporting of the Murdoch stuff last nite. Abbott's a fliploppin' hypocrite & bigtime BSer. N'

nasking

20/07/2011Considering that Rupert Murdoch in his governance of News Corp/Int/Ltd is so willing to shift political support based on how much his media companies benefit & based on tax reforms proposed by governments (eg: even tho he supposedly supports clean energy & The Australian backed Rudd in at the end of 07...and even named him Australian of the Year...the Murdoch papers went bersek on Rudd...then Gillard...once super profits tax was pushed...and carbon price by Gillard)... I find it hard to believe Rupert would not be notified about huge compensation payouts...and was not directly involved: (more from UK House of Commons) [quote]TW: And were you informed of the findings by your son, Mr Murdoch? Or by Rebekah Brooks? RM: (long pause) I forget, but I expect it was my son. I was in daily contact with them both. TW: When were informed about the payments made to Gordon Taylor and Max Clifford? RM: Nope TW: You were not informed? RM: Nope TW: At no point you knew that Taylor and Clifford were made payments? RM:I've never heard of them - the first one. TW:Ok. You never informed the chief executive of News Corp that you authorised payment of half a million pounds... JM: (Int) Will you let me answer the questions now Mr Watson? TW: (to JM) I'd like you to tell me whether you informed your father that you had authorised payments to Gordon Taylor as result of him being a victim of a crime?[/quote] ----------------- This demonstrates that Rupert is either a man in charge who has over-reached in regard to purchases of news and other communication/entertainment assets...having lost touch w/ the workings of his media organs (particularly at the financial & criminal investigation levels)... or he is not telling the full truth. N'

jj

20/07/2011I watched the whole Murdoch committee inquiry and by God was it boring! You would think, after all the Murdoch's have done to anger many Labor MP's over the years in Britain that they may have worked a little harder to probe a little deeper than what they did last night. I thought James was skillful in seeming innocent and sorry for all that went wrong (outside of his field of knowledge); however Murdoch senior seemed quite smug- at least he answered the questions directly. I dont think anything really came out of the little investigation last night, even though there is much much more that probably could have. On local issues, Poor old Gillard. I dont think she gets that being the only person on the news each night from the Government blubbering on about the carbon tax when she is soooooo unpopular is helping to kill the one thing that she needs to survive. Let Combet and Wong in on the action! All Abbott needs to do at the moment it seems is turn up to the workplaces with heart beat and say NO CARBON TAX and his poll ratings climb. Once again, poor old Julia. Oh well, things cant get much worse for the government, they havent got much more digging to go before they find they cant get out!

nasking

20/07/2011BTW, I'd like to know why the BBC's Nick Bryant is trying to spin the "energy" out of the phone hacking scandal. Bad interview w/ him on ABC 24 in the afternoon. Bryant seems to be trying to downplay the significance of the exchanges last night...and the scandal as a whole. If Rupert's position has been "cemented" w/ the News Corp board, as the ABC 24 tickertape likes to inform today, then it seems many shareholders and journos are falling for the insipid & "poor Rupert standing up even tho he got creamed" line. The OZ media is generally pathetic. Bernard Keane at Crikey was on top of some of the major issues/points to come from the exchanges...but I disagree w/ his headline: Murdoch hearing: everything you need to know http://www.crikey.com.au/2011/07/20/rupert-murdoch-james-murdoch-inquiry-key-details/ Let's face it, governance of a corporation that is paying the ongoin' legal fees for phone hacking criminals... and denying you knew about such things, including huge compensation payouts... and paying off police... and being unaware of criminal activities in yer highest selling paper...is beyond INCOMPETENT. But of course we are used to the TOP BRASS getting off and fingering their subordinates. Think Iraq war & GFC. Having FAILED his corporation we should see Rupert & James now REWARDED. And/Or their company eventually bailed out by government if it gets in big trouble. Isn't that how it works these days in our CORPTOCRACIES? ---------------- Fortunately, The Guardian, SKY UK are pushing the report (out this morning UK time): [quote]Rupert Murdoch's News International company has been found by a parliamentary committee to have "deliberately" tried to block a Scotland Yard criminal investigation into phone hacking at the News of the World. The report from MPs on the all-party home affairs committee will be released on Wednesday morning and its publication has been moved forward in time for today's statement by prime minister David Cameron on the scandal. The report's central finding comes a day after Rupert and James Murdoch testified before the culture, media and sport committee. The home affairs committee report marks an official damning judgment on News International's actions. It finds the company "deliberately" tried to "thwart" the 2005-6 Metropolitan police investigation into phone hacking carried out by the News of the World. The police investigation came at a time when Andy Coulson was editor. Coulson went in to be chosen by Cameron to be his director of communications, before resigning. The full report will be published Wednesday morning. Among its findings are: • Police failed to examine a vast amount of material that could have identified others involved in the phone hacking conspiracy and victims. • John Yates made a "serious misjudgement" in deciding in July 2009 that the Met's criminal investigation should not be reopened. He resigned on Monday. • The new phone hacking investigation should receive more money, from government if necessary, so it can contact potential victims more speedily. A fraction have been contacted so far. • The Information Commissioner should be given new powers to deal with phone hacking and blagging. The central conclusion about NI's hampering of the police investigation comes after the home affairs committee heard evidence from senior Met officers who were involved in the case that News International obstructed justice. Last week the man who oversaw the first Metropolitan police investigation into phone hacking, Peter Clarke, damned News International: "If at any time News International had offered some meaningful co-operation instead of prevarication and what we now know to be lies, we would not be here today."[/quote] http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/20/news-international-deliberately-blocked-investigation This has a long way to go yet. N'

Jason

20/07/2011jj, What is it you don't get? the policy stays!it will be passed later this year as the coalition haven't the numbers to stop it! and there are some out there who say should Abbott win the 2013 election he couldn't have a Double Dissolution election until the first half of 2015! Abbott isn't that brave! he'll spin his usual bullshit to people like you and say "it's to hard to undo" because the senate wont let me and business has already factored the "tax" in. jj I hear some of those looking for "pre selection" that have the numbers aren't from camp Abbott!

Jason

20/07/2011jj, "I watched the whole Murdoch committee inquiry and by God was it boring!" Well I guess after watching the "Howard government" go through the same sthick for nearly 12 years it would be!

nasking

20/07/2011Karen Middleton on SBS News did a lousy job of summing up the Australian political news today. She tried to string together Rudd's heart op, some doom & gloom comments from the recently castrated John Hewson on SKY NEWS & an out of context quote from Indie Tony Windsor to make it look as tho the government are about to lose power...and the swimming hero Tony come in. Middleton ignored the Laurie Oakes stuff that showed Abbott to be a BSer... and failed to mention the rest of Windsor's comments: But Mr Windsor told the Herald he was sticking by the government until the election. He said as he travelled abroad, he was struck by how people in Australia were still arguing the science of climate change, while abroad the focus was on how to solve the problem. This only confirmed in his mind that he made the right decision to back Labor and negotiate a climate change policy, even if it meant Labor had put its political future at risk. ''I'd rather be supporting someone who's trying to do something rather than Tony Abbott, who's trying to wreck everything,'' he said. ''Regardless of what happens [at the election], I have no self-doubt about the choices I made.'' http://www.smh.com.au/national/windsor-loyal-to-doomed-gillard-20110719-1hneq.html And that Abbott vows to keep open the bad polluting 40-year-old Hazelwood plant. More CRAP here from ex-Australian/Murdoch empire employee Tony Abbott: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-07-20/tony-abbott-carbon-price/2803206/?site=melbourne N'

D Mick Weir

20/07/2011Evening all, for anyone that has read Ross Gittin's piece today take a few moments to read it [b]Trust makes the world go around, honestly[/b] National Times http://www.nationaltimes.com.au/opinion/politics/trust-makes-the-world-go-around-honestly-20110719-1hn4y.html [i]Sometimes you don't appreciate the importance of things until you're threatened with their loss. Of nothing is that truer than trust.[/i] Any of you that have a opposition member as your federal representative might care to send them a link to the article.

Ad astra

20/07/2011Folks I've just posted [i]Why does the media believe it must hold governments to account?[/i]. http://www.thepoliticalsword.com/post/2011/07/20/Why-does-the-media-believe-it-must-hold-governments-to-account.aspx

nasking

20/07/2011A useful petition: Rupert Murdoch’s News Limited controls 70% of what Australians read in newspapers every day -- and dismal media regulations give him a free rein to hold politics hostage, manipulate public opinion, and even hack phones. But now we have an opportunity to change that. The recent UK phone-hacking scandal has exposed how ruthless and corrupt Murdoch's empire is, but his unbridled power might be crumbling -- last week Avaaz members in the UK won an amazing victory, helping stop Murdoch from buying over 50% of UK media. Now, he is beginning to feel the heat here -- PM Gillard is considering a full inquiry into Australian media that would place News Ltd under closer scrutiny and control. But Murdoch wields massive political influence and key members of both the cabinet and the Parliament are wavering. The PM needs people power behind her if she’s to get a majority to endorse bold action. Let's urgently build an avalanche of public support for her to launch a comprehensive review of our media laws, clean up the media, and challenge Murdoch's abusive position. Click below to sign the petition to preserve our democracy, and tell everyone to join: http://www.avaaz.org/en/stop_murdochs_monopoly/?vl Now we know that Murdoch’s top newspaper, The News of the World, hacked thousands of phones in the UK, and even put a murdered schoolgirl’s family through unimaginable anguish by hacking her mobile phone and deleting messages, giving her parents false hope that she was still alive. This scandal shows just how absurd it is to put public interest in the hands of unscrupulous media empires like Murdoch’s. Here, Rupert Murdoch has been allowed to become an unchallenged dictator of public opinion as inadequate safeguards allowed him to buy up more and more media outlets. Media here is among the most concentrated in the world. He now owns 70% of Australian newspapers and has free rein to spread his ideological agenda promoting wars, climate deniers and xenophobia. Australia’s press is asked to “self-regulate” and our current laws do not protect individuals from News of the World-style phone hacking. But now the Australian Law Review Commission has recommended the adoption of new laws guaranteeing our privacy, and more and more voices are calling for a full inquiry on our media, including ownership concentration. Rupert Murdoch’s empire has acted without scrutiny or sanction for too long, but we have the power to hold him and other moguls to account. Governments in the UK and the US are putting Murdoch’s media under the microscope – it’s time for us to do the same. A comprehensive review of media ownership concentration and privacy protection is the best chance we have to hold an increasingly unscrupulous press to account. Sign the urgent petition now: http://www.avaaz.org/en/stop_murdochs_monopoly/?vl Unaccountable media have long corrupted public debate and violated the rights of ordinary people, but only now are people and governments waking up and saying: no more. We have a chance to safeguard the lifeblood of Australia’s democracy -- diverse public debate and the fundamental right of individuals to privacy. Let’s take this crucial step together.

TalkTurkey

20/07/2011Dear Kevin Rudd, My literally heartfelt Best Wishes for you in the trials you are due to undergo soon. I've been down a similar track, as you have already before, we both know a bit about it. Just take it easy Cobber, you'll be right. You are a hero, and you will cope. Cheers.
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